Anonymous wrote:Next step: Get the reluctant Manafort to cooperate and explain what was really going on with Russia and the campaign. Will Manafort turn or will he take the fall for the campaign's collusion with Russia?

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Zilch to do with campaign.

You don't understand how prosectors work. But it will be tied together later on. They had to file this now because of some statute of limitations expiring on certain of the counts.

Yes, Mueller has evidence but just went after Manafort as a first step. Please! He's got nothing and hoping Manafort will gift him something.

Pathetic. Poor unfortunate souls.

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Anonymous wrote:No 'collusion.'Just alleged tax and paperwork failings during the time he worked 4 podesta group/Clinton Foundation. The lying msm bastards, and the mooks here lapping it up.

Federal criminal tax evasion charges result in prison time with virtual certainty unlike any other sort of federal charge.

A small sampling of high profile ex-cons would beg to differ with your dismissive characterization of these charges:

Walter Anderson

An American entrepreneur, Mr. Anderson made his millions after the breakup of AT&T. He was convicted for evading more than $200 million in taxes. It is reported that in 1998, he paid $495 in taxes on $67,939 of income. For this he got 9 years in a federal pen.

Paul Daugardas

In a case dubbed by federal prosecutors as “the biggest criminal tax fraud in history,” former attorney Daugardas received a 15 year prison sentence for helping clients evade taxes. He was convicted of creating a fraudulent tax shelter that would create fake loss to reduce the tax bills of the extremely wealthy. During its operation, the tax shelter generated more than $7 billion in fraudulent losses, creating $1.6 billion in lost tax revenue.

Martha Stewart

Did 5 months in the fed pen and 5 months home confinement for securities fraud and tax evasion.

and of course, the granddaddy of them all, Al Capone.

Federal prosecutors get a rigid, unsatiable, hard-on for celebrity tax evasion cases. They are some of the very best lawyers in the country and their careers are made with these cases. They do not bring them unless they can win. I am a tax attorney and deal with them on a regular basis. They'll make you take a plea, but you will do time.

Anonymous wrote:Nothing else will happen. You know why? Because wealthy people have good attorneys to get them out of their mess.
It's their way to threaten people and their way to get what they want. That's all they know. Sue people or threaten to sue them.

Anonymous wrote:Nothing else will happen. You know why? Because wealthy people have good attorneys to get them out of their mess.
It's their way to threaten people and their way to get what they want. That's all they know. Sue people or threaten to sue them.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/paul-manafort-indicted.html

Zilch to do with campaign.

You don't understand how prosectors work. But it will be tied together later on. They had to file this now because of some statute of limitations expiring on certain of the counts.

Anonymous wrote:No 'collusion.'Just alleged tax and paperwork failings during the time he worked 4 podesta group/Clinton Foundation. The lying msm bastards, and the mooks here lapping it up.

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

Do you know what is fact? Trump's campaign manager is under indictment for hiding tens of millions of dollars he received for advancing the interests of Vladimir Putin.

Source that cites Putin? Please post link.

Really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych is the former Presdient of Ukraine and the origination of Manaforts money.

http://www.politifact.com/global-news/article/2016/may/02/paul-manafort-donald-trumps-top-adviser-and-his-ti/

http://www.breitbartunmasked.com/2016/07/25/paul-manafort-the-vladimir-putin-connection/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/30/donald-trump-paul-manafort-ukraine-russia-putin-ties

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/09/24/manaforts-russia-connection-what-you-need-to-know-about-oleg-deripaska/?utm_term=.7adc773f6f02

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/paul-manafort-indicted.html

Zilch to do with campaign.

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

Do you know what is fact? Trump's campaign manager is under indictment for hiding tens of millions of dollars he received for advancing the interests of Vladimir Putin.

Source that cites Putin? Please post link.

Um, all the reporting that got Manafort fired from the campaign?

I just read the indictment. Putin isn't mentioned once.

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

Do you know what is fact? Trump's campaign manager is under indictment for hiding tens of millions of dollars he received for advancing the interests of Vladimir Putin.

Source that cites Putin? Please post link.

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Anonymous wrote:The conspiracy against the US charge is 18 USC 371. Tax stuff, failure to disclose, failure to pay taxes, etc. Starting with the smallest fish first.

When they have big fish stuff, they don't need the small fish.

Apparently small fish is all they got.

Waste o' time and money.

Bigger fish would have leaked. For sure. Agreed

How much bigger can you get than the campaign manager? The more sober among us thought that probably this would start with someone who no one had really heard of before - someone like Gates, actually. This is really huge. Not as big as a hamburger emoji, I give you that - I mean, what is bigger than a hamburger emoji, really? - but pretty f*cking enormous.

So where's the rest of it? Ah, no where. Manafort is it. Wow. From before campaign. The fact you all are thinking there's a huge payload lurking is comical. They don't f-k with a years ago tax return if they have anything good.

This is just the lowest of the low hanging fruit. You don't think this is all, do you? This is going to be many people, many more months of indictments and then years of prosecution.

Source and citations?

It's opinion, but there is prima facie evidence in the public domain against many Trump operatives including his family members. I don't rely on Fox.

Me either, as I don't waste my time owning a tv.

Your opinion is great for you, enjoy. But it's not fact.

Do you know what is fact? Trump's campaign manager is under indictment for hiding tens of millions of dollars he received for advancing the interests of Vladimir Putin.

Source that cites Putin? Please post link.

Um, all the reporting that got Manafort fired from the campaign?