Anonymous wrote:I am "liberal" and I do not hire anyone who does not speak English and who does not seem to be here legally. Problem mostly solved.

If "conservatives" would also hire people who speak English, much of the illegal immigration problem would go away. And, some of the job problems as well.

+1 Go for the source. Cut the demand, and you will see the supply die off. But, you can bet it's the R business owners who don't want to see higher wages if the illegal immigrants disappear.

In the case of illegal immigrant workers, Rs and Dems are on the same side because both sides benefit. So, to OP, you really need to change your Title to read "R business owners and Liberals.."

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/12/14/lawmakers-go-easy-employers-undocumented-workers/

Texas leaders will continue going easy on those who avail themselves of low-cost undocumented immigrant labor — particularly in agriculture, construction, janitorial services and the leisure and hospitality industry.

The reason is simple: Business interests rely on undocumented immigrant workers, while pro-immigrant activists fight to protect the labor rights of those facing abuse and exploitation. When the Chamber of Commerce and the American Civil Liberties Union are on the same side of an issue at the Capitol, they’re hard to beat.

“We know what an important part immigrant labor plays in Texas, and to suddenly wipe out large sectors ... would have a devastating impact on the Texas economy,” said Bill Hammond, head of the influential Texas Association of Business, the state’s top business advocacy group. “We need immigrant labor to do those tasks where not enough Americans will.”

The left-right convergence — bringing businessmen and liberal immigration activists together — has been key in blocking legislation that would make life more difficult for undocumented immigrants in Texas, said Bill Beardall, executive director of the Equal Justice Center, a nonprofit law firm that advocates for immigrants and other low-wage workers in Austin.

I am "liberal" and I do not hire anyone who does not speak English and who does not seem to be here legally. Problem mostly solved.

If "conservatives" would also hire people who speak English, much of the illegal immigration problem would go away. And, some of the job problems as well.

Not here legally? Get out.

Anonymous wrote:If you have evidence of illegal immigration, contact the Department of Homeland Security at 1 866-DHS-2ICE (1 866-347-2423) but don't be surprised if they don't seem to care.

Of course they don’t care. They have nutjobs calling them everyday because they heard somebody speaking Spanish.

Anonymous wrote:So, 13:07, what about my neighbor who has an "undocumented" babysitter and housekeeper? Where do I report?

How would you know they are undocumented? Have you seen their birth certificates? Do you know their visa status? Are they in proceedings? Are they reporting to ICE? Have they had a credible fear interview? You are making a lot of assumptions.

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Anonymous wrote:If Republicans wanted to end illegal immigration they would go after the employers. They don't because they are profiting from it.

They are playing poor whites for fools and I can't believe you don't see this as they laugh all the way to the bank.

Read little more than WAPO bezos personal blog

It is the democrats. Chuckle and Nancy that refuse to pass E-Verify

E-verify passed and has been in use for 10 years.

The problem is two-fold: 1) states can apply it any way they want, and 2) there’s virtually no enforcement of compliance.

The entire system is uneven; businesses and lobbying factions can and do use their power to exert pressure on state legislatures to use it in their favor.

Republicans are the ones clamoring for states’ rights because, as they do with education, healthcare, the environment and other factors critical to the well-being of people they prefer to manipulate federal policy in what they see as competition for business.

Business is always going to act in the interest of profit. Business prefers a continuous pipeline of illegal labor. Business will keep that pipeline for as long as they’re able, which means for as long as they can keep paying lawmakers for the policies that support their interest.

If you have evidence of illegal immigration, contact the Department of Homeland Security at 1 866-DHS-2ICE (1 866-347-2423) but don't be surprised if they don't seem to care.

So, 13:07, what about my neighbor who has an "undocumented" babysitter and housekeeper? Where do I report?

Anonymous wrote:I've always wondered how you can support and defend people who are living in the U.S. illegally; people who have jumped ahead of the thousands of others waiting patiently for years to become LEGAL citizens.

Please explain why you're so eager to catch Trump committing illegal acts, but have no issue with illegal immigrants. You know, people who are breaking our laws every single minute of every single day. Thanks.

I don't know a single person of any political stripe who supports illegal immigration. The difference is that liberals recognize illegal immigrants as human beings with a right to basic dignity and humane treatment. OP is typical of many on the right, whose belief in the inherent dignity of humanity only applies when it's convenient for them.

Anonymous wrote:Jailing employers for 20 years for hiring illegal immigrants is how you solve the illegals immigration problem. When there are no jobs for illegal immigrants, there are no illegal immigrants. They are here for work. No wall needed but it’s the Republicans hiring these people.

Wrong.



EEOC statement on Illegal Aliens...

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/inquiries_citizenship.cfm


Pre-Employment Inquiries and Citizenship


Employers should not ask whether or not a job applicant is a United States citizen before making an offer of employment. The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 12986 (IRCA) makes it illegal for employers to discriminate with respect to hiring, firing, or recruitment or referral for a fee, based on an individual's citizenship or immigration status. For example, the law prohibits employers from hiring only U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents unless required to do so by law, regulation or government contract; it also prohibits employers from preferring to hire temporary visa holders or undocumented workers over qualified U.S. citizens or other protected individuals, such as refugees or individuals granted asylum.

IRCA requires employers to verify the identity and employment eligibility of all employees hired after November 6, 1986, by completing the Employment Eligibility Verification (I-9) Form, and reviewing documents showing the employee's identity and employment authorization. The law prohibits employers from rejecting valid documents or insisting on additional documents beyond what is legally required for employment eligibility verification (or the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Form I-9), based on an employee's citizenship status or national origin. For example, e.g., an employer cannot require only individuals the employer perceives as "foreign" to verify their employment eligibility or produce specific documents, such as Permanent Resident ("green") cards or Employment Authorization Documents. It is the employee's choice which of the permitted documents to show for employment eligibility verification. As long as the document appears reasonably genuine on its face, and relates to the employee, it should be accepted.

Because of potential claims of illegal discrimination, employment eligibility verification should be conducted after an offer to hire has been made. Applicants may be informed of these requirements in the pre-employment setting by adding the following statement on the employment application:

"In compliance with federal law, all persons hired will be required to verify identity and eligibility to work in the United States and to complete the required employment eligibility verification document form upon hire."

The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) also prohibits discrimination on the basis of national origin by smaller employers (with 4 to 14 employees). IRCA prohibits retaliation against individuals for asserting their rights under the Act, or for filing a charge or assisting in an investigation or proceeding under IRCA. Discrimination charges under IRCA are processed by the Department of Justice, Office of Special Counsel (OSC) for Immigration- Related Unfair Employment Practices. For more information, contact the OSC at:

1-800-255-7688 (voice for employees/applicants),
1-800-237-2515 (TTY for employees/applicants),
1-800-255-8155 (voice for employers), or
1-800-362-2735 (TTY for employers), or

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc.

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Anonymous wrote:Jailing employers for 20 years for hiring illegal immigrants is how you solve the illegals immigration problem. When there are no jobs for illegal immigrants, there are no illegal immigrants. They are here for work. No wall needed but it’s the Republicans hiring these people.

It's two fold. Republicans love cheap labor and democrats love the Hispanic vote.

Huh? Just the other day, some Republican was on here crowing about Hispanics loving the NRA and being overly religious as a path forward for their own party. So which is it?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Republicans wanted to end illegal immigration they would go after the employers. They don't because they are profiting from it.

They are playing poor whites for fools and I can't believe you don't see this as they laugh all the way to the bank.

Read little more than WAPO bezos personal blog

It is the democrats. Chuckle and Nancy that refuse to pass E-Verify

Nope, Tea Party won't pass E-Verify either because they think it's too intrusive, onerous and burdensome on business. Get your own house in order before you start bitching about Dems.

Rep. Dave Brat (R-Va.) and the Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas) say that the GOP leadership is finalizing their immigration package that would exchange new immigration enforcement measures for amnesty for DACA recipients.

Rep. Brat said that they are looking at a plan that would include ending chain migration, eliminating the diversity visa lottery and making E-Verify mandatory.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Republicans wanted to end illegal immigration they would go after the employers. They don't because they are profiting from it.

They are playing poor whites for fools and I can't believe you don't see this as they laugh all the way to the bank.

Read little more than WAPO bezos personal blog

It is the democrats. Chuckle and Nancy that refuse to pass E-Verify

Nope, Tea Party won't pass E-Verify either because they think it's too intrusive, onerous and burdensome on business. Get your own house in order before you start bitching about Dems.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to vote Republican but they ran me off years ago with their non-Repupbican policies so I call myself an Independent but have voted 80% D in the past 8-10 years.

I do not support illegal immigration, but I do support pragmatic reform. Our current system is completely broken. There is no "line" to get into. There are ridiculous "hoops" that costs thousands and thousands of dollars which have no common sense guidance.

Republicans are all "scare, scare, scare" but they criminalize the people who come here for very desperate reasons. My in-laws live in a small town where there was an influx of immigrants (for factory jobs that US citizens didn't want) and now that the factory jobs have decreased, the whole town has gone all Trump-crazy anti-immigrant and blaming Obama and the immigrants for the situation and strain on the public schools In reality, it was the factory-owning Republicans who brought them there wanting cheap labor and they just abandoned the town (moved to the next county to avoid taxes and took zero responsibility for bringing thousands of low-skilled immigrants to town).

I'm all for a secure border, I'm all for either expanded or holding incoming immigrant numbers steady. I am NOT for ripping decent families apart when children came as babies years and years ago and if they have kept their noses clean and paid taxes. They need a way to get in an orderly line that doesn't exist yet. I'm for holding employers accountable for their roles in creating this mess. Obama deported a huge number of illegal immigrants, but he wisely went after those who had created crimes - which I can completely get behind.

I'd be for a path to legal residency - but NEVER citizenship. I know the Democrats would love the votes, but that privilege should be granted only to those who entered our country legally.

I agree with NEVER citizenship. Any deportable need to be deported. The US should never take in other country's people on a temporary basis like it did with the Hondurans. So many illegals and temps have anchor babies. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2016/10/05/the-citizenship-and-immigration-problems-of-anchor-babies-and-surrogacy/#4df302b455b3

Canada and birther tourism http://www.macleans.ca/society/health/why-women-are-coming-to-canada-just-to-give-birth/
Maybe we should fly/bus pregnant illegals to Canada.

Countries repealing anchors: Australia 2007.New Zealand 2006. Ireland 2005. France 1993. India 1987. United Kingdom 1983. Portugal 1981

You realize that US citizen children cannot sponsor their parents, right? Didn’t think so.

Call chuckie and Nancy!! Tell the democrats to stop the nonsense and mandate everify

Only the most hard-core radicals in Washington admit they support allowing businesses to exploit illegal-alien labor. In fact, many who consistently vote against stopping illegal immigration say we should focus enforcement on the businesses who lure illegal aliens to come to America. So a bill to make it simple to enforce the federal laws which prohibit hiring illegal aliens should be easy to pass, right?

After all, who's going to vote FOR allowing identity theft?

Who's going to vote FOR taking jobs from American workers and using them instead to lure illegal aliens into the country?

Who's going to vote FOR allowing outlaw businesses to have an advantage over honest employers?

We MUST have a vote on E-Verify. We MUST know where Members of Congress REALLY stand. They can't hide behind presumed vetoes anymore; no more excuses over threatened filibusters.