Anonymous wrote:Nice to see that Michelle Obama appears to be a great friend to her.

+1 for sure!

Nice to see that Michelle Obama appears to be a great friend to her.

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Anonymous wrote:We are making a lot of assumptions about how the rest of the family is feeling. Only they know how this relationship is affecting them. It is entirely possible that no one is hurting because of it.

Maybe true or not true that no one is hurt by this.
One thing is certain, Joe and Hallie's parents came out in full force telling the media that they fully endorse the affair... weird. If it's private matter, why comment on it?

Also, I just can't even imagine how Kathleen must feel after their public statement. Kinda leaves her out in the cold after all these years.

Anonymous wrote:OP, how old are you? There is a difference between an affair and falling in love when you are single or widowed.

Exactly.

Anonymous wrote:We are making a lot of assumptions about how the rest of the family is feeling. Only they know how this relationship is affecting them. It is entirely possible that no one is hurting because of it.

Maybe true or not true that no one is hurt by this.
One thing is certain, Joe and Hallie's parents came out in full force telling the media that they fully endorse the affair... weird. If it's private matter, why comment on it?

look, I didn't say it was 100% definite no one is hurting. I don't know, you don't know, we collectively don't know what is going on in that family. There is a chance - a chance - that this family is ok with this relationship.

we're looking at it with our own filters. Only they know how things are playing out. It is up to them and only them to decide how they feel and whether it is OK.

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Anonymous wrote:We are making a lot of assumptions about how the rest of the family is feeling. Only they know how this relationship is affecting them. It is entirely possible that no one is hurting because of it.

OK

This is ridiculous. Even if not hurting several people must be feeling intensely embarrassed.

And no, grief doe not give you a pass to do whatever you want to other people.

PP here. I was being facetious in response to the poster's comment that it's possible no one is hurting because of it.

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Anonymous wrote:We are making a lot of assumptions about how the rest of the family is feeling. Only they know how this relationship is affecting them. It is entirely possible that no one is hurting because of it.

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This is ridiculous. Even if not hurting several people must be feeling intensely embarrassed.

And no, grief doe not give you a pass to do whatever you want to other people.

I didn't say grief gives anyone a free pass. But we have no idea what is really going on inside that family. It seems bizarre to us, sure. But only they know if it actually is weird for them.

I do think knowing what that family has gone through makes me less likely to harshly judge.

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Anonymous wrote:We are making a lot of assumptions about how the rest of the family is feeling. Only they know how this relationship is affecting them. It is entirely possible that no one is hurting because of it.

OK

This is ridiculous. Even if not hurting several people must be feeling intensely embarrassed.

And no, grief doe not give you a pass to do whatever you want to other people.

Anonymous wrote:We are making a lot of assumptions about how the rest of the family is feeling. Only they know how this relationship is affecting them. It is entirely possible that no one is hurting because of it.

OK

We are making a lot of assumptions about how the rest of the family is feeling. Only they know how this relationship is affecting them. It is entirely possible that no one is hurting because of it.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/radaronline.com/photos/beau-biden-wife-hallie-biden-wedding-ring-pics-hopping-affair-brother-hunter-biden/amp/

Hallie continues to wear her dead husband's wedding ring while sleeping with his brother. His still married brother.

Klass.

she lost her husband. The father of her children. You have no idea what you would do while mourning a loss that huge.

Np are you telling me that it is right for her to have an affair with her brother in law? That was not only a betrayal of her husband but also Hunter's wife. Also, Beau didn't die that long ago and who knows when Hunter and Hallie actually started. I think it is disrespectful to the kids as well.

I'm saying grief does strange things to people. And I will not stand in judgement of her.

I agree, but an affair with the still married brother of your deceased husband is a bit of a stretch for most people.

I won't disagree. It is bizarre and icky. And confusing for all involved. But I've never been in their shoes and I won't condemn no matter how uncomfortable it is.

Then you shouldn't speak for us! I've actually been in those shoes.

Grief is unbearable but I didn't suddendly morph into someone else. I am still the same person with the same belief system dealing with unimaginable sadness.

If Hallie and Hunter's behavior seem seedy, it is who they are and it's not because of Beau's death.

That is how you dealt with grief. You don't speak for everyone who has ever had grief, either.

+1. Just because people act differently than you during the time of grief doesn't mean it's "seedy." No compassion!

Are you suggesting that there are no limits to what's acceptable regarding a person's behavior-- if the person is grieving??

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Hallie continues to wear her dead husband's wedding ring while sleeping with his brother. His still married brother.

Klass.

she lost her husband. The father of her children. You have no idea what you would do while mourning a loss that huge.

Np are you telling me that it is right for her to have an affair with her brother in law? That was not only a betrayal of her husband but also Hunter's wife. Also, Beau didn't die that long ago and who knows when Hunter and Hallie actually started. I think it is disrespectful to the kids as well.

I'm saying grief does strange things to people. And I will not stand in judgement of her.

I agree, but an affair with the still married brother of your deceased husband is a bit of a stretch for most people.

I won't disagree. It is bizarre and icky. And confusing for all involved. But I've never been in their shoes and I won't condemn no matter how uncomfortable it is.

Then you shouldn't speak for us! I've actually been in those shoes.

Grief is unbearable but I didn't suddendly morph into someone else. I am still the same person with the same belief system dealing with unimaginable sadness.

If Hallie and Hunter's behavior seem seedy, it is who they are and it's not because of Beau's death.

That is how you dealt with grief. You don't speak for everyone who has ever had grief, either.

+1. Just because people act differently than you during the time of grief doesn't mean it's "seedy." No compassion!

Others have experienced intense grief, too. Grief isn't sufficient reason to bring hurt to others (Kathleen and her children).

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Hallie continues to wear her dead husband's wedding ring while sleeping with his brother. His still married brother.

Klass.

she lost her husband. The father of her children. You have no idea what you would do while mourning a loss that huge.

Np are you telling me that it is right for her to have an affair with her brother in law? That was not only a betrayal of her husband but also Hunter's wife. Also, Beau didn't die that long ago and who knows when Hunter and Hallie actually started. I think it is disrespectful to the kids as well.

I'm saying grief does strange things to people. And I will not stand in judgement of her.

I agree, but an affair with the still married brother of your deceased husband is a bit of a stretch for most people.

I won't disagree. It is bizarre and icky. And confusing for all involved. But I've never been in their shoes and I won't condemn no matter how uncomfortable it is.

Then you shouldn't speak for us! I've actually been in those shoes.

Grief is unbearable but I didn't suddendly morph into someone else. I am still the same person with the same belief system dealing with unimaginable sadness.

If Hallie and Hunter's behavior seem seedy, it is who they are and it's not because of Beau's death.

That is how you dealt with grief. You don't speak for everyone who has ever had grief, either.

+1. Just because people act differently than you during the time of grief doesn't mean it's "seedy." No compassion!

It won't end well and I feel bad for the kids.