Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:42     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If it had happened to a black man in Chicago the city would be on fire with rioting in the streets for three days


Really? It did happen in Chicago to several black men. Didn't read much about it, did you?

Holmes, who eventually gave what he says was a false confession and was convicted of murder in 1973, is one of as many as 120 African-American men on Chicago’s South Side who were allegedly tortured by Burge between 1972 and 1991.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/15/closing-the-book-on-jon-burge-chicago-cop-accused-of-brutally-torturing-african-american-suspects/

Jon Burge is a 66-year-old ex-police commander who is said to have overseen the torture of 118 Black men who were in Chicago police custody over 30 years ago. He walked out of federal prison today a free man after serving only three and a half years in a minimum security prison and his victims still want justice.
https://hellobeautiful.com/2747932/white-cop-goes-free-after-torturing-118-black-men/

The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site


+1000....unfortunately, many posters on DCUM will disregard the torture of 118 Black men in police custody, at the hands of CPD, because the 118 victims of Jon Burge were AA males. What's even worse is that if the actions of torturing people is as horrendous as it appear on this thread, then there should have been an equal amount of outrage from whites when the crimes of Jon Burge were revealed in the news.


PP is right. The real story here is how racist whites are.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:34     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If it had happened to a black man in Chicago the city would be on fire with rioting in the streets for three days


Really? It did happen in Chicago to several black men. Didn't read much about it, did you?

Holmes, who eventually gave what he says was a false confession and was convicted of murder in 1973, is one of as many as 120 African-American men on Chicago’s South Side who were allegedly tortured by Burge between 1972 and 1991.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/15/closing-the-book-on-jon-burge-chicago-cop-accused-of-brutally-torturing-african-american-suspects/

Jon Burge is a 66-year-old ex-police commander who is said to have overseen the torture of 118 Black men who were in Chicago police custody over 30 years ago. He walked out of federal prison today a free man after serving only three and a half years in a minimum security prison and his victims still want justice.
https://hellobeautiful.com/2747932/white-cop-goes-free-after-torturing-118-black-men/

The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site


+1000....unfortunately, many posters on DCUM will disregard the torture of 118 Black men in police custody, at the hands of CPD, because the 118 victims of Jon Burge were AA males. What's even worse is that if the actions of torturing people is as horrendous as it appear on this thread, then there should have been an equal amount of outrage from whites when the crimes of Jon Burge were revealed in the news.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:32     Subject: Re:Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

People who are unwilling or unable to take on that responsibility should NOT be having children. And this is where the GOP defunding Planned Parenthood is such a bad idea.


Do you have any idea how many aborted AA babies there are? It is an obscene number. Believe me, these young people know where to get an abortion. Lots of these young women are thrilled to be pregnant. They think they will have someone who loves them unconditionally. Almost everyone loves babies. If we gave birth to teenagers there would be a lot more birth control.

Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:27     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

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Anonymous wrote:The torturers were screaming "f Donald Trump" and "f white people."


F white people? Really? Then who do they think will pay the taxes for their welfare benefits?


Why do you assume they are on welfare? Also Asians, Blacks, and Hispanics pay taxes as well.


Are you going to blame Whites for the fact that these "kids" are on welfare??? I mean when will AA community learn that it's time to take responsibility for their own lives. I am neither White nor Black but blaming Whites for every misery an AA person ever encountered is getting dated. As for racism, other minorities too experience it but they keep their mouth shut and eyes on the goal of making something of their lives.

I really get the hurdles AA community has had to face but as long as we keep defending this victim mentality, we are making sure they stay victims.


Again where is the evidence they are on welfare? How did this convo become about welfare?


Right? No way they get any public assistance! My guess is they're probably all well paid financial professionals.


They could come from working class families. Why is everything so one-sided on this board. I highly doubt their parents are doctors or lawyers but that doesn't automatically mean they are on welfare. Please look up working poor and working class.


I'm going to go our on a limb here, but if their parents had any real presence in their lives how in the hell was this group able to torture this young man for such a long period of time? I grew up in a poor working class family and my parents knew where I was, what I was doing and who I was associating with because that was their job. Where are these families who are responsible for these little thugs, this went on for two days? And please don't throw out defense for these parents, these kids and their behavior in our civilization is their responsibility and they should be held accountable for this crime. Yousorry ass little don't attack welfare mentality, well it is there because that is the norm. I look forward to a time when the welfare state is not front and center, I doubt that will ever happen.


I agree to a certain extent but as a teen, my parents did not know where we were every minute of the day and my parents were GREAT parents - sent 5 of us to college. Hell, I do not know for certain where my teens are every minute of the day although I like to think I know. But what my parents instilled in us was a respect for other people and the instinct to try and do the right thing. That is what these kids are missing.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:26     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Call this disgusting attack in Obama’s back yard exactly what it is: a Trump-hating race crime against a defenseless white man by young black Americans who shame their country.


Personally, I think this was a thrill crime - these folks saw a vulnerable person and brutalized him There probably was racist undertones but I seriously doubt that these four teens said "Hey, let's beat up a White guy because we hate Trump." And I point to the crime out West where the White kids raped a mentally disabled Black kid with a broom handle. The racial and political undertones of that were downplayed because the police thought it more to be a cowardly act against a vulnerable person and less about the race of the victim (although the attacker made some racial comments)

I will agree with you 100% if you admit that the kid I talked about above and Dylan Roof has also shamed this country.


I made a similar comment; these were bored and cruel teens. Nothing more.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:24     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

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Anonymous wrote:This is unimaginable, I can't believe this is what our country has become. Thanks obama, thanks a lot. Prayers for this young man.


Yes, because this type of crime never happened before Obama


His support of blm has flamed the targeting of innocent non-black people. His silence about this hate crime is indicative of that.


BLM is a movement that does not include all block people, you are aware of hat, yes? What does BLM have to do with random criminals?

We're talking about Obama's continued silence about this.


Do you mean by pointing out the obvious like, if Pres. Obama had a son, his son would look AA? Is that what got Obama opponents upset?


Continued silence? Didn't this just hit the press last night?


+1. Funny....now folks are clamoring for a response from POTUS. Yet, when he spoke on Trayvon Martin, those same folks skewered him for it.


He set a bit of a precedent by his choice of words at that time.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:22     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote: Call this disgusting attack in Obama’s back yard exactly what it is: a Trump-hating race crime against a defenseless white man by young black Americans who shame their country.


Personally, I think this was a thrill crime - these folks saw a vulnerable person and brutalized him There probably was racist undertones but I seriously doubt that these four teens said "Hey, let's beat up a White guy because we hate Trump." And I point to the crime out West where the White kids raped a mentally disabled Black kid with a broom handle. The racial and political undertones of that were downplayed because the police thought it more to be a cowardly act against a vulnerable person and less about the race of the victim (although the attacker made some racial comments)

I will agree with you 100% if you admit that the kid I talked about above and Dylan Roof has also shamed this country.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:15     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The torturers were screaming "f Donald Trump" and "f white people."


F white people? Really? Then who do they think will pay the taxes for their welfare benefits?


Why do you assume they are on welfare? Also Asians, Blacks, and Hispanics pay taxes as well.


Are you going to blame Whites for the fact that these "kids" are on welfare??? I mean when will AA community learn that it's time to take responsibility for their own lives. I am neither White nor Black but blaming Whites for every misery an AA person ever encountered is getting dated. As for racism, other minorities too experience it but they keep their mouth shut and eyes on the goal of making something of their lives.

I really get the hurdles AA community has had to face but as long as we keep defending this victim mentality, we are making sure they stay victims.


Again where is the evidence they are on welfare? How did this convo become about welfare?


Right? No way they get any public assistance! My guess is they're probably all well paid financial professionals.


They could come from working class families. Why is everything so one-sided on this board. I highly doubt their parents are doctors or lawyers but that doesn't automatically mean they are on welfare. Please look up working poor and working class.


I'm going to go our on a limb here, but if their parents had any real presence in their lives how in the hell was this group able to torture this young man for such a long period of time? I grew up in a poor working class family and my parents knew where I was, what I was doing and who I was associating with because that was their job. Where are these families who are responsible for these little thugs, this went on for two days? And please don't throw out defense for these parents, these kids and their behavior in our civilization is their responsibility and they should be held accountable for this crime. Yousorry ass little don't attack welfare mentality, well it is there because that is the norm. I look forward to a time when the welfare state is not front and center, I doubt that will ever happen.


I'm a Clinton voter, a parent, and member of a discriminated against immigrant minority group and I 100% agree with this. Teens are tough to parent and can sometimes have really terrible decision-making but it's our job as parents to supervise them and know where they are. People who are unwilling or unable to take on that responsibility should NOT be having children. And this is where the GOP defunding Planned Parenthood is such a bad idea.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:14     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the female suspects boyfriends is on Facebook

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011121307486


And Mark Zuckerberg is on a thirty state tour getting to know people so he can run for political office Hey junior, yeah you, Zuckerberg, keep your ass in California on your compound and come to some realization that your business has enabled things like this to happen. Facebook can shut you down if you support Trump, but you can't stop these things on your site with the push of a button. Shame on you Zuckerberg.


Actually they can...and have stopped Facebook Live streaming mid-stream. No one thought to alert them about it.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:13     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the female suspects boyfriends is on Facebook

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011121307486


And Mark Zuckerberg is on a thirty state tour getting to know people so he can run for political office Hey junior, yeah you, Zuckerberg, keep your ass in California on your compound and come to some realization that your business has enabled things like this to happen. Facebook can shut you down if you support Trump, but you can't stop these things on your site with the push of a button. Shame on you Zuckerberg.


Actually, by posting on Facebook, the 4 were easily caught. Without Facebook, there might not have been enough evidence or they might not have been caught.

You should be thanking Zuckerberg for inventing Facebook, not criticizing him.


I was just getting ready to post something similar. Don't get why PP is criticizing Zuckerberg; social media helps police.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:11     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the female suspects boyfriends is on Facebook

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011121307486


And Mark Zuckerberg is on a thirty state tour getting to know people so he can run for political office Hey junior, yeah you, Zuckerberg, keep your ass in California on your compound and come to some realization that your business has enabled things like this to happen. Facebook can shut you down if you support Trump, but you can't stop these things on your site with the push of a button. Shame on you Zuckerberg.


Actually, by posting on Facebook, the 4 were easily caught. Without Facebook, there might not have been enough evidence or they might not have been caught.

You should be thanking Zuckerberg for inventing Facebook, not criticizing him.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:10     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Call this disgusting attack in Obama’s back yard exactly what it is: a Trump-hating race crime against a defenseless white man by young black Americans who shame their country.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:09     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote:One of the female suspects boyfriends is on Facebook

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011121307486


And Mark Zuckerberg is on a thirty state tour getting to know people so he can run for political office Hey junior, yeah you, Zuckerberg, keep your ass in California on your compound and come to some realization that your business has enabled things like this to happen. Facebook can shut you down if you support Trump, but you can't stop these things on your site with the push of a button. Shame on you Zuckerberg.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:09     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the female suspects boyfriends is on Facebook

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011121307486


Not surprising since the whole attack was streamed on Facebook Live.


The girl's FB was posted on another site but I won't link it here.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2017 12:08     Subject: Alleged Kidnappers Live Stream Torture; Shout “F” Trump