Anonymous
11/06/2017 08:35
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I live in LA and actually think mormons are quite awful. They are the reason we had to wait so long for marriage equality.
And are you part of the reason fundamentalist Mormons have to wait for marriage equality?
Trolling may be fun, but you sound dumb. I guess you don't know anything about CA and Mormons.
Anonymous
11/06/2017 08:29
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:I live in LA and actually think mormons are quite awful. They are the reason we had to wait so long for marriage equality.
And are you part of the reason fundamentalist Mormons have to wait for marriage equality?
Anonymous
11/06/2017 08:27
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
I don't know OP, I was told by a Mormon woman that she would never live near black people, that's not nice.
Anonymous
11/06/2017 08:17
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.
Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.
The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.
Really? These people already had a religion and a set of personally-held beliefs (and were exterminated for that), but baptizing them after their deaths, to fulfill *another* religion's covenant (or quest for numbers) is doing a service for them? That's SO offensive.
BTW, my mother (not Jewish) was posthumously "baptized" by an LDS acquaintance. That I let pass, I wasn't thrilled as my mother's "soul" isn't that acquaintance's to worry about, but at least she wasn't slaughtered in an attempt to purify their race. Whole. Different. Story.
Anonymous
11/06/2017 08:05
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.
Well, this was forbidden by the church a number of years ago. But if you want to know why people do it, it is because they believe that someone's eternal salvation is dependent on making and keeping covenants with God. These covenants are made as part of ordinances such as baptism. Our church baptizes the dead because we believe that individuals continue to learn and progress after death, and the ordinance is offered to those who cannot complete it for themselves. We believe that people have agency or the freedom to choose whether to accept it. So in other words, Mormons felt compassion for Holocaust victims and were trying to do a service for them.
The question that I have is why this is so offensive? If you think it is bunk then no harm done.
Anonymous
11/06/2017 07:13
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
This site says a lot:
http://www.exmormon.org/
And their stories:
http://www.exmormon.org/stories.htm
http://www.exmormon.org/
And their stories:
http://www.exmormon.org/stories.htm
Anonymous
11/05/2017 21:34
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
I live in LA and actually think mormons are quite awful. They are the reason we had to wait so long for marriage equality.
Anonymous
11/05/2017 21:22
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.
My feeling is that it is just hocus pocus. If you really feel that it changes the afterlife, then you believe what they believe, right? No one really has this " power".....who cares what they do?
I'm Catholic. I had a Mormon friend come to me and tell me that she recently baptized someone with the same name as me (and it's a very uncommon one). The way she said it definitely felt like she was trying to make a point, but if I don't believe in such a practice than I don't really care either way. Just an odd moment.
Anonymous
11/05/2017 20:51
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mormon caste system? Please explain
They publish how much people donate and the more you donate the higher your social rank. Very money driven culture.
Ex Mormon here. The tithing amounts aren't published for the entire LDS community to see, but they're not top secret, either. The bishop and the two guys under him (and probably their wives) know exactly what each family gives, and it definitely has an impact on your standing in the church. In a wealthier area, they'll ask doctors or lawyers to be the bishop or stake president but never a guy who works at Walmart.
In parts of Utah, there's a definite caste system when it comes to geography. It's not hard and fast, but it's pretty noticeable if you pay attention: If you're wealthy, your family lives in a house higher up in the mountains of Provo or Salt Lake City, and you very likely are not renters. If you're not-so-wealthy, you live towards the base of the mountains. If you're somewhere in the middle, so is your house. There are exceptions to this, but it's rare to see modest homes occupied by blue collar families perched high in the hills in the more populated areas.
That's very interesting...thank you for the insight. I recall many times being in SLC and the valley and having my hosts point out the famous mormons who lived up on the mountain. The people I know in Utah all have a very good idea of who the big donors are.... is that just idle gossip or do you think the tithing amounts are leaked?
PP here. You’re welcome
. As to knowing who the big donors are, it’s usually pretty obvious that if a LDS person holds a temple recommend (which allows you to enter the Temple, as opposed to just the regular church building that anyone can attend) AND they are from a family with money, they’re a big donor. You have to tithe 10% of your income, preferably pre-tax, as one requirement to enter the temple, so the rich Mormons give a lot more money than the less affluent ones. Some of the very very wealthy, like the Romneys, also contribute directly to the missionary expenses for kids whose parents would have to really struggle to send them. This is looked upon favorably by the church and usually it’s not much of a secret when someone helps pay for another kid’s mission.
Anonymous
11/05/2017 18:06
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mormon caste system? Please explain
They publish how much people donate and the more you donate the higher your social rank. Very money driven culture.
Ex Mormon here. The tithing amounts aren't published for the entire LDS community to see, but they're not top secret, either. The bishop and the two guys under him (and probably their wives) know exactly what each family gives, and it definitely has an impact on your standing in the church. In a wealthier area, they'll ask doctors or lawyers to be the bishop or stake president but never a guy who works at Walmart.
In parts of Utah, there's a definite caste system when it comes to geography. It's not hard and fast, but it's pretty noticeable if you pay attention: If you're wealthy, your family lives in a house higher up in the mountains of Provo or Salt Lake City, and you very likely are not renters. If you're not-so-wealthy, you live towards the base of the mountains. If you're somewhere in the middle, so is your house. There are exceptions to this, but it's rare to see modest homes occupied by blue collar families perched high in the hills in the more populated areas.
That's very interesting...thank you for the insight. I recall many times being in SLC and the valley and having my hosts point out the famous mormons who lived up on the mountain. The people I know in Utah all have a very good idea of who the big donors are.... is that just idle gossip or do you think the tithing amounts are leaked?
Anonymous
11/05/2017 16:56
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.
My feeling is that it is just hocus pocus. If you really feel that it changes the afterlife, then you believe what they believe, right? No one really has this " power".....who cares what they do?
It's extraordinarily disrespectful, and dishonest to boot. OP asked "Why are Mormons so nice?" I answered.
Anonymous
11/05/2017 15:32
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.
My feeling is that it is just hocus pocus. If you really feel that it changes the afterlife, then you believe what they believe, right? No one really has this " power".....who cares what they do?
Anonymous
11/05/2017 04:39
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
If you think Mormons are so nice, just ask one of them why the religion continues to baptize Holocaust victims and other deceased Jews (despite many promises and agreements to stop). I have been repeatedly bullied by Mormons online for asking this simple question.
Anonymous
11/04/2017 21:17
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mormon caste system? Please explain
They publish how much people donate and the more you donate the higher your social rank. Very money driven culture.
Ex Mormon here. The tithing amounts aren't published for the entire LDS community to see, but they're not top secret, either. The bishop and the two guys under him (and probably their wives) know exactly what each family gives, and it definitely has an impact on your standing in the church. In a wealthier area, they'll ask doctors or lawyers to be the bishop or stake president but never a guy who works at Walmart.
In parts of Utah, there's a definite caste system when it comes to geography. It's not hard and fast, but it's pretty noticeable if you pay attention: If you're wealthy, your family lives in a house higher up in the mountains of Provo or Salt Lake City, and you very likely are not renters. If you're not-so-wealthy, you live towards the base of the mountains. If you're somewhere in the middle, so is your house. There are exceptions to this, but it's rare to see modest homes occupied by blue collar families perched high in the hills in the more populated areas.
Anonymous
11/04/2017 21:11
Subject: How are Mormons so nice?
Anonymous wrote:Mormon caste system? Please explain
There are those who are in the inner sanctum and it radiates from there. Picture a bullseye.