Anonymous wrote:FWIW, I have always thought that HRC is not a bad looking woman but wonder what in the world women see in him? Maybe he is super alpha in real life but not athletic and comes off as douchy. The kind of guy other men don't like.

Getting back to the question, I could never seriously take a woman without a real job UNLESS she was also busting her ass in college trying to better herself. Ambition and drive are very important to me. Plus, I like women you can have an actually conversation with, not someone whose biggest accomplishment on a particular day was getting her nails done.

This does not sound like a straight man.

Most men know immediately what women like about Bill: charisma and power.

Very few men like a woman with "ambition and drive." Maybe guys who are looking for the gravy train?

Science backs this up. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/05/110524070310.htm

"participants rated the sexual attractiveness of hundreds of images of the opposite sex engaged in universal displays of happiness (broad smiles), pride (raised heads, puffed-up chests) and shame (lowered heads, averted eyes).

The study found . . . male participants were most sexually attracted to women who looked happy, and least attracted to women who appeared proud and confident."

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, I have always thought that HRC is not a bad looking woman but wonder what in the world women see in him? Maybe he is super alpha in real life but not athletic and comes off as douchy. The kind of guy other men don't like.

Getting back to the question, I could never seriously take a woman without a real job UNLESS she was also busting her ass in college trying to better herself. Ambition and drive are very important to me. Plus, I like women you can have an actually conversation with, not someone whose biggest accomplishment on a particular day was getting her nails done.

Bill Clinton has an astonishing amount of personal charisma. Kind of unexplainable, it's kind of a force of nature. Some people just have it.

FWIW, I have always thought that HRC is not a bad looking woman but wonder what in the world women see in him? Maybe he is super alpha in real life but not athletic and comes off as douchy. The kind of guy other men don't like.

Getting back to the question, I could never seriously take a woman without a real job UNLESS she was also busting her ass in college trying to better herself. Ambition and drive are very important to me. Plus, I like women you can have an actually conversation with, not someone whose biggest accomplishment on a particular day was getting her nails done.

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I was joking. When she was young, Hillary Rodham Clinton had a spectacular rack. And her legs were okay, if a little thick.

Bill Clinton told her that she was beautiful, as well as brilliant, and he meant it. He might be the only guy who ever thought she was beautiful, but he really, really meant it.

LMAO Bill has told many, many women they were beautiful, and he really, really meant it every time.

Maybe he really, really meant it for a really, really short period of time, but he really, really meant it.

"Bill Clinton is an unusually good liar. Unusually good." -- Bob Kerrey

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Stunning amber necklace.

Anonymous wrote:Whatever did Bill see in her?

ugh she is fugly.

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You: "I had muh education and muh career, ha ha stupid men!"

Just the kind of thing I would expect from bottomfeeding trash. I am glad you are not polluting the genes of intelligent women with your inbred ones. Stick to your kind, please.

I have four great kids with my extremely intelligent wife. Try again!

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Anonymous wrote:If you think men have a problem with a woman having the jobs you described, then you REALLY don't understand men.

+1.

- Man (BigLaw Partner)

Do you actually know anyone in BigLaw who married a waitress? I guess I agree with this in theory, but every high achieving man I know married a well-educated woman. The only exceptions I can think of are people in my parents generation (55 and older), and people who met as teenagers and kind of mapped out their lives together where she supported him through law school/medical school with one of the above jobs and the intent that she would SAH when he finished.

I know a guy in Big Law who married a nanny. They've been married for about 10 years & she's a SAHM now.

No offense but Big law isn't a big deal to many. I equate it to real estate, a decent profession. Kind of laughable how they throw that around on this forum, either way she is certainly his equal no matter what she does.

Women have it made. They can have a career or stay home, many do both during their lifetime. It's a personal choice, not right or wrong. If more people on here were less jealous they might be a little happier.

Agreed. I'm more interested in who the STEM Guys typically married. From what I've noted it's not career nannies.

I know a nanny who married an Engineer. She was INA'S nanny of the year a few yrs ago. ( I know she visits these boards. Sorry to put you on blast)
They seem very happy. I am a career nanny dating a Senior level Engineer.
I have a nanny friend who was dating the former ambassador of blah blah blah

Yes, That is still atypical. Not that it never happens, but not the norm.

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Anonymous wrote:In my parents' generation, it was common to see a lawyer-secretary or doctor-nurse couple. That is not the case any more. So, either all of the intelligent women are now becoming lawyers instead of secretaries of doctors instead of nurses and men follow intelligence or men prefer their wives to have higher prestige careers.

I know a whole bunch of lawyer/nurse couples (including a female lawyer and a male nurse). Something about the two careers balances each other out.

Not so much balance as they relate to each other more.

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Anonymous wrote:So the reason a rich man with a great DCUM resume would pick a slacker over a driven career woman are many. One of the biggest is if someone has a career, they can't go with you on all the business excursion because they have to work. You know take vacation time. No Palm Springs in January, the meet and greet at blanked blanked golf open your company sponsors in New Orleans, the trips to the Cayman Islands for executive planning meetings, the boarding in NY, etc. These thing last a week or more and there are many on them.

So actual workers are now "slackers"?

Beautiful. The snobbery astounds!

Have you ever read any of the threads of about what women consider to be a catch? I guess you agree with those threads, but it only applies to men not women. LOL oh the world is so unfair to my double standards.

Thanks for trying to read my mind, but you're wrong. I think any person that works should be recognized as a worker - not dismissed as a slacker.

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There was something about her that reminded me of an Agatha Christie murderer - the pleasant wife of the village doctor, who liked killing her husband's patients by poisoning their afternoon tea.

Love her jewelry though.

Naw, it's the plastic surgery.

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There was something about her that reminded me of an Agatha Christie murderer - the pleasant wife of the village doctor, who liked killing her husband's patients by poisoning their afternoon tea.

Love her jewelry though.

Well... technically, she did kill a former boyfriend.

It was an accident, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever did Bill see in her?

And what did Hillary ever see in Bill, ick.

I was joking. When she was young, Hillary Rodham Clinton had a spectacular rack. And her legs were okay, if a little thick.

Bill Clinton told her that she was beautiful, as well as brilliant, and he meant it. He might be the only guy who ever thought she was beautiful, but he really, really meant it.

Hillary Clinton is beautiful. Many men and women I personally know think that she is quite nice looking. The person who I thought had a strange face and expression was Laura Bush. She always looked as if she was high on something. She had a maniacal look in her eye.

+10000

I always wondered what she was taking because her eyes were so crazy. She always looked really stoned to me. I am sure that she did plenty of drugs with W. back in the day. I don't think she got sober when she did.

There was something about her that reminded me of an Agatha Christie murderer - the pleasant wife of the village doctor, who liked killing her husband's patients by poisoning their afternoon tea.

Love her jewelry though.