Anonymous
11/15/2021 07:11
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day- God seems like an a$$.
Like who tortures children with cancer to teach their parents a lesson? Who decides that giving miscarriages to parents who want kids is a great test in faith? Or gives the wealthy even more power and wealth during a pandemic. Or takes away moms from innocent kids through cancer as a lesson in love?
Why give so much pain if you are omniscient and loving? It doesn’t make sense. If we are supposed to believe in this and worship this- it is by default an abusive relationship. It’s like being with a boyfriend that hits you, rapes you, tortures you and then says- I do this out of love!!!! I hurt you to test your faith- and if you don’t worship me I will make it worse after you die but while you are alive, it’s going to be pretty awful anyway.
Oh, and on top of that, we’re broke.
It might help you to read When Bad Things Happen to Good People by Harold Kushner. It addresses a lot of your questions.
Bubble gum pop psych nonsense won’t “help” that person.
People who are desperate to believe, will believe almost anything.
The book addresses - from a place of faith - the concept of God and the reality of pain/loss/bad things. PP asked why a loving God would cause those things to happen and this book addresses how religious people struggle with that same question. If PP is sincere in wanting to understand why a religious person is religious in the face of bad things in the world, this book will help answer that question. If PP is just being rhetorical to try to dunk on religion, that seems like a waste of time and energy, but whatever. You do you.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 23:40
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of them don't like the intolerance of social issues and the hypocrisy of some Religious leaders (Catholic priests, those Evangelicals caught in extra-marital affairs, etc)
At least in this country, a lot of people, on both the right and the left, seem to buy into the idea that "real" religion = conservative and evangelical. The fact that there are lots of liberal mainline Protestants/Jews/Catholics for example, is generally ignored (let alone Hindus, Buddhists, and other religions), and only a narrow slice of religion is recognized. They are turned off by the intolerance, hypocrisy, cruelty, white supremacy, and right-wing politics that characterize the narrow slice of religion that's portrayed as legit. So they reject religion entirely, because that's all they see religion do.
+1. The Protestant churches quietly running soup kitchens and coat drives don’t get press attention. Evangelicals stumping loudly next to Trump do.
It's more like we see the Evangelicals stumping loudly next to Trump and the Protestant Churches being too quiet saying nothing about it.
No, my Protestant church has been very vocal against Trump. The media just never reports on it, for whatever reason.
I and lots of others do that all the time. You just haven’t been paying attention.
Not just speaking out against rump, but calling out so called Christians who support him
Not enough of you do it. I was a Christian . I know how it works.
Again, you and the press aren’t paying attention. See the other thread here where someone complains that every church they visit speaks out against Trump.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 23:05
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Define young. I was raised religiously. I think it hurt me. Traditional Christianity puts men above women. I felt what I was taught changed my life for the worse. I don't want my kids raised like that. I go occassionally. I don't want my kids indoctrinated. I am less religious every year.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 22:56
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Because their parents think it’s open-minded and enlightened to be atheist. They don’t take them to church or teach them
about God. The result is a generation (or two, maybe three?) of young people who are depressed and have identity and anger issues.
How do you explain someone like myself whose parents raised her in the church and now wants nothing to do with it?
How do you explain religious people who are depressed?
Anonymous
11/14/2021 22:55
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of them don't like the intolerance of social issues and the hypocrisy of some Religious leaders (Catholic priests, those Evangelicals caught in extra-marital affairs, etc)
At least in this country, a lot of people, on both the right and the left, seem to buy into the idea that "real" religion = conservative and evangelical. The fact that there are lots of liberal mainline Protestants/Jews/Catholics for example, is generally ignored (let alone Hindus, Buddhists, and other religions), and only a narrow slice of religion is recognized. They are turned off by the intolerance, hypocrisy, cruelty, white supremacy, and right-wing politics that characterize the narrow slice of religion that's portrayed as legit. So they reject religion entirely, because that's all they see religion do.
+1. The Protestant churches quietly running soup kitchens and coat drives don’t get press attention. Evangelicals stumping loudly next to Trump do.
It's more like we see the Evangelicals stumping loudly next to Trump and the Protestant Churches being too quiet saying nothing about it.
No, my Protestant church has been very vocal against Trump. The media just never reports on it, for whatever reason.
I and lots of others do that all the time. You just haven’t been paying attention.
Not just speaking out against rump, but calling out so called Christians who support him
Not enough of you do it. I was a Christian . I know how it works.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 22:35
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
I think it's because STEM was pushed so heavily that the young people have grown up with more scientific explanations than ever before.
Also, the first internet generation was taught to verify sources. When young people hear something they don't think is right, they Google it. They literally grew up with all of the world's answers right in the palms of their hands.
When I was growing up and someone asked a question, 99% of the time we didn't go look up the answer in the book. No, someone in the group would give a answer with a reason and we trusted that as fact.
Also, the first internet generation was taught to verify sources. When young people hear something they don't think is right, they Google it. They literally grew up with all of the world's answers right in the palms of their hands.
When I was growing up and someone asked a question, 99% of the time we didn't go look up the answer in the book. No, someone in the group would give a answer with a reason and we trusted that as fact.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 22:08
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day- God seems like an a$$.
Like who tortures children with cancer to teach their parents a lesson? Who decides that giving miscarriages to parents who want kids is a great test in faith? Or gives the wealthy even more power and wealth during a pandemic. Or takes away moms from innocent kids through cancer as a lesson in love?
Why give so much pain if you are omniscient and loving? It doesn’t make sense. If we are supposed to believe in this and worship this- it is by default an abusive relationship. It’s like being with a boyfriend that hits you, rapes you, tortures you and then says- I do this out of love!!!! I hurt you to test your faith- and if you don’t worship me I will make it worse after you die but while you are alive, it’s going to be pretty awful anyway.
Oh, and on top of that, we’re broke.
It might help you to read When Bad Things Happen to Good People by Harold Kushner. It addresses a lot of your questions.
Bubble gum pop psych nonsense won’t “help” that person.
People who are desperate to believe, will believe almost anything.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 22:06
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because their parents think it’s open-minded and enlightened to be atheist. They don’t take them to church or teach them
about God. The result is a generation (or two, maybe three?) of young people who are depressed and have identity and anger issues.
Yes you are 100% right because that condition NEVER occurs among the religious.
YOU FORGOT THE /S
So did you.
looks like you forgot it again -- but I didn't. I'm serious.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 21:49
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day- God seems like an a$$.
Like who tortures children with cancer to teach their parents a lesson? Who decides that giving miscarriages to parents who want kids is a great test in faith? Or gives the wealthy even more power and wealth during a pandemic. Or takes away moms from innocent kids through cancer as a lesson in love?
Why give so much pain if you are omniscient and loving? It doesn’t make sense. If we are supposed to believe in this and worship this- it is by default an abusive relationship. It’s like being with a boyfriend that hits you, rapes you, tortures you and then says- I do this out of love!!!! I hurt you to test your faith- and if you don’t worship me I will make it worse after you die but while you are alive, it’s going to be pretty awful anyway.
Oh, and on top of that, we’re broke.
It might help you to read When Bad Things Happen to Good People by Harold Kushner. It addresses a lot of your questions.
Bubble gum pop psych nonsense won’t “help” that person.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 21:32
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because their parents think it’s open-minded and enlightened to be atheist. They don’t take them to church or teach them
about God. The result is a generation (or two, maybe three?) of young people who are depressed and have identity and anger issues.
Yes you are 100% right because that condition NEVER occurs among the religious.
YOU FORGOT THE /S
So did you.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 19:30
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because their parents think it’s open-minded and enlightened to be atheist. They don’t take them to church or teach them
about God. The result is a generation (or two, maybe three?) of young people who are depressed and have identity and anger issues.
Yes you are 100% right because that condition NEVER occurs among the religious.
YOU FORGOT THE /S
Anonymous
11/14/2021 07:24
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
The simple answer is the internet. Religion has thrived through the millennia because it was taught from birth and people weren’t exposed to anything else. Even in the more modern era of newspaper/radio/tv, the idea of atheism has only been a niche topic that people had to proactively seek out. In the last couple of decades, however, people have had the world at their fingertips and religion has lost its foothold. You add in the rapid pace of scientific discovery and a lot of self-inflicted wounds by organized religion and there is no surprise we are where we are.
Anonymous
11/14/2021 06:55
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Anonymous wrote:Because their parents think it’s open-minded and enlightened to be atheist. They don’t take them to church or teach them
about God. The result is a generation (or two, maybe three?) of young people who are depressed and have identity and anger issues.
Yes you are 100% right because that condition NEVER occurs among the religious.
Anonymous
11/13/2021 22:39
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
how do you explain religious people who are depressed or have identity and anger issues?Anonymous wrote:Because their parents think it’s open-minded and enlightened to be atheist. They don’t take them to church or teach them
about God. The result is a generation (or two, maybe three?) of young people who are depressed and have identity and anger issues.
Anonymous
11/13/2021 22:26
Subject: Why are the young people non-religious
Because their parents think it’s open-minded and enlightened to be atheist. They don’t take them to church or teach them
about God. The result is a generation (or two, maybe three?) of young people who are depressed and have identity and anger issues.
about God. The result is a generation (or two, maybe three?) of young people who are depressed and have identity and anger issues.