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Anonymous wrote:If Nigerians are into academics and science, where are they? I have not heard of any Nigerians at TJ (I have seen 1 from Caribbean Island) and there virtually none (probably 1 or 2) in my son's math/science/engineering classes at his university. 80-90% are Asians/white.

Your world sounds quite small and VA-centric. Not everyone is interested in the TJ to UVA pipeline. It appears that you'll find all the Nigerians you'll ever need at Ivy League universities. According to this NY Times article, many Nigerians appear a lot more interested in business and finance and, specifically, Harvard Business School. I'll re-post this for your education and enlightenment:

Yes, Amy Chua ("Tiger Mom") wrote about Nigerians in her most recent book. This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/opinion/sunday/what-drives-success.html?_r=0

There are some black and Hispanic groups in America that far outperform some white and Asian groups. Immigrants from many West Indian and African countries, such as Jamaica, Ghana, and Haiti, are climbing America’s higher education ladder, but perhaps the most prominent are Nigerians. Nigerians make up less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet in 2013 nearly one-quarter of the black students at Harvard Business School were of Nigerian ancestry; over a fourth of Nigerian-Americans have a graduate or professional degree, as compared with only about 11 percent of whites.

So they don't go for the difficult STEM majors and go where they get the most boost. Remember, George Bush went to HBS as well.

Unlike GWB, NONE of them have fathers who were president of the United States, or grandfathers who were U.S. senators. But somehow, they ended up at, inarguably, the best business school on the planet. They're 1 percent of the black population in the U.S., but they make up nearly 25% of black HBS students. That's nothing short of amazing!

Btw, they're also pretty savvy to go where the money is, don't you think? Most TJ students end up as what, scientists and engineers? That's nice, but it doesn't pay like Wall Street. Most TJ students do not become Bill Gates.

Actually, there are plenty of Ivy grads and east coast MBAs applying for jobs in SV and software developers/engineers make $150,000 - $200,000 fresh out of college in SV with many making much more after several years. In fact, many Hedge Funds, asset management companies (on both coasts) only hire engineering/CS/Math graduates. Hi-tech is the future not discussing case studies.

I'm sure these Nigerian-Americans will have no problem getting those jobs, if desired, with their Harvard MBAs. Btw, do you know that Wall Street/Hedge Fund bonuses can be in the millions? I'll take an annual (multi) million dollar bonus from Goldman Sachs over that $150 to $200K+ any day. Who are you trying to kid?

Silicon Valley tech company employees with just bachelors degree receive bonuses/stock options worth millions as well sometimes tens of millions if lucky. I think SV and Quants will have significant effect on the financial services/banking in the future .

Apples and oranges. Those with bachelor degrees rarely (if ever) receive million dollar bonuses, and the stock options can be worthless (not every company is Google, Facebook and Microsoft). If SV ends up being more attractive and lucrative in the long run (compared to Wall Street), be prepared to see a lot more Nigerians/Nigerian Americans gravitating to those fields.

Only if they are good in math, CS, stat or engineering.

Even when many of these Nigerian-Americans play professional sports, they tend to excel academically.

Nnamdi Asomugha (Kerry Washington’s husband) is a former American football cornerback. He played college football for the University of California, Berkeley, and was drafted in the first round of the 2003 NFL Draft by the Oakland Raiders. For many years he was considered one of the best shutdown corners in the NFL. Asomugha was born in Lafayette, Louisiana, to Nigerian Igbo parents. He was raised in Los Angeles, California. Asomugha graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree from UC Berkeley in Interdisciplinary Studies focused on Corporate Finance.

[/b]Emeka Okafor is an American professional basketball player in the National Basketball Association (NBA). Okafor was born in Houston, Texas. Both of his parents are natives of Nigeria (Igbo ethinic group), and Emeka was the first member of his family born in the United States. Okafor played for the University of Connecticut from 2001 to 2004. He majored in finance during his time at Connecticut, and he graduated with honors after three years in May 2004 with a 3.8 GPA. Okafor was named the Academic All-American of the Year in 2004 for his work on and off the court.

Eventually, Nneka and Chiney Ogwumike became all-Americans at Stanford, and No. 1 overall picks in the W.N.B.A. draft. Nneka plans to pursue a Master of Business Administration degree, while Chiney intends to enter law school.

“We come from highly educated families where the mind-set is to send your children to the best schools where they get the best education and the best opportunities,” Ify Ogwumike said. “Sports was not a focus; education was the focus. We just happened to find sports and find that you can get the best of both worlds.” Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/19/sports/more-nigerian-americans-are-reaching-highest-levels-of-sports.html

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Anonymous wrote:If Nigerians are into academics and science, where are they? I have not heard of any Nigerians at TJ (I have seen 1 from Caribbean Island) and there virtually none (probably 1 or 2) in my son's math/science/engineering classes at his university. 80-90% are Asians/white.

Your world sounds quite small and VA-centric. Not everyone is interested in the TJ to UVA pipeline. It appears that you'll find all the Nigerians you'll ever need at Ivy League universities. According to this NY Times article, many Nigerians appear a lot more interested in business and finance and, specifically, Harvard Business School. I'll re-post this for your education and enlightenment:

Yes, Amy Chua ("Tiger Mom") wrote about Nigerians in her most recent book. This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/opinion/sunday/what-drives-success.html?_r=0

There are some black and Hispanic groups in America that far outperform some white and Asian groups. Immigrants from many West Indian and African countries, such as Jamaica, Ghana, and Haiti, are climbing America’s higher education ladder, but perhaps the most prominent are Nigerians. Nigerians make up less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet in 2013 nearly one-quarter of the black students at Harvard Business School were of Nigerian ancestry; over a fourth of Nigerian-Americans have a graduate or professional degree, as compared with only about 11 percent of whites.

So they don't go for the difficult STEM majors and go where they get the most boost. Remember, George Bush went to HBS as well.

Unlike GWB, NONE of them have fathers who were president of the United States, or grandfathers who were U.S. senators. But somehow, they ended up at, inarguably, the best business school on the planet. They're 1 percent of the black population in the U.S., but they make up nearly 25% of black HBS students. That's nothing short of amazing!

Btw, they're also pretty savvy to go where the money is, don't you think? Most TJ students end up as what, scientists and engineers? That's nice, but it doesn't pay like Wall Street. Most TJ students do not become Bill Gates.

Actually, there are plenty of Ivy grads and east coast MBAs applying for jobs in SV and software developers/engineers make $150,000 - $200,000 fresh out of college in SV with many making much more after several years. In fact, many Hedge Funds, asset management companies (on both coasts) only hire engineering/CS/Math graduates. Hi-tech is the future not discussing case studies.

I'm sure these Nigerian-Americans will have no problem getting those jobs, if desired, with their Harvard MBAs. Btw, do you know that Wall Street/Hedge Fund bonuses can be in the millions? I'll take an annual (multi) million dollar bonus from Goldman Sachs over that $150 to $200K+ any day. Who are you trying to kid?

Silicon Valley tech company employees with just bachelors degree receive bonuses/stock options worth millions as well sometimes tens of millions if lucky. I think SV and Quants will have significant effect on the financial services/banking in the future .

Apples and oranges. Those with bachelor degrees rarely (if ever) receive million dollar bonuses, and the stock options can be worthless (not every company is Google, Facebook and Microsoft). If SV ends up being more attractive and lucrative in the long run (compared to Wall Street), be prepared to see a lot more Nigerians/Nigerian Americans gravitating to those fields.

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Anonymous wrote:If Nigerians are into academics and science, where are they? I have not heard of any Nigerians at TJ (I have seen 1 from Caribbean Island) and there virtually none (probably 1 or 2) in my son's math/science/engineering classes at his university. 80-90% are Asians/white.

Your world sounds quite small and VA-centric. Not everyone is interested in the TJ to UVA pipeline. It appears that you'll find all the Nigerians you'll ever need at Ivy League universities. According to this NY Times article, many Nigerians appear a lot more interested in business and finance and, specifically, Harvard Business School. I'll re-post this for your education and enlightenment:

Yes, Amy Chua ("Tiger Mom") wrote about Nigerians in her most recent book. This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/opinion/sunday/what-drives-success.html?_r=0

There are some black and Hispanic groups in America that far outperform some white and Asian groups. Immigrants from many West Indian and African countries, such as Jamaica, Ghana, and Haiti, are climbing America’s higher education ladder, but perhaps the most prominent are Nigerians. Nigerians make up less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet in 2013 nearly one-quarter of the black students at Harvard Business School were of Nigerian ancestry; over a fourth of Nigerian-Americans have a graduate or professional degree, as compared with only about 11 percent of whites.

So they don't go for the difficult STEM majors and go where they get the most boost. Remember, George Bush went to HBS as well.

Unlike GWB, NONE of them have fathers who were president of the United States, or grandfathers who were U.S. senators. But somehow, they ended up at, inarguably, the best business school on the planet. They're 1 percent of the black population in the U.S., but they make up nearly 25% of black HBS students. That's nothing short of amazing!

Btw, they're also pretty savvy to go where the money is, don't you think? Most TJ students end up as what, scientists and engineers? That's nice, but it doesn't pay like Wall Street. Most TJ students do not become Bill Gates.

Actually, there are plenty of Ivy grads and east coast MBAs applying for jobs in SV and software developers/engineers make $150,000 - $200,000 fresh out of college in SV with many making much more after several years. In fact, many Hedge Funds, asset management companies (on both coasts) only hire engineering/CS/Math graduates. Hi-tech is the future not discussing case studies.

I'm sure these Nigerian-Americans will have no problem getting those jobs, if desired, with their Harvard MBAs. Btw, do you know that Wall Street/Hedge Fund bonuses can be in the millions? I'll take an annual (multi) million dollar bonus from Goldman Sachs over that $150 to $200K+ any day. Who are you trying to kid?

Silicon Valley tech company employees with just bachelors degree receive bonuses/stock options worth millions as well sometimes tens of millions if lucky. I think SV and Quants will have significant effect on the financial services/banking in the future .

Anonymous wrote:If Nigerians are into academics and science, where are they? I have not heard of any Nigerians at TJ (I have seen 1 from Caribbean Island) and there virtually none (probably 1 or 2) in my son's math/science/engineering classes at his university. 80-90% are Asians/white.

Some of them are using their science degrees to go into medicine; and literally working to find a cure for cancer (and brain trauma). Here's a sampling:


Dr. Bennet Omalu is a Nigerian-American forensic pathologist who conducted the autopsy of Pittsburgh Steelers center Mike Webster, which led to his discovery of a new disease that he named chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE. The movie concussion (starring Will Smith) is about his discovery of CTE’s link with football. He is currently the chief medical examiner of San Joaquin County, Calif. and a professor in the UC Davis Department of Medical Pathology and Laboratory Medicine.

Olufunmilayo I. Olopade is a Nigerian-American hematology oncologist, Associate Dean for Global Health and Walter L. Palmer Distinguished Service Professor in Medicine and Human genetics at the University of Chicago. She also serves as director of the University of Chicago Hospital's Cancer Risk Clinic. She has performed extensive clinical work surrounding the role of the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes in the incidence of breast cancer in women of African descent. Oh, she was also awarded the MacArthur Foundation MacArthur Foundation “Genius” Award in 2005.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the point there are tons of kids with Ivy league stats
URM with ivy league stats is an insnaely strong hook hence the 8 Admits
whites and asians with ivy league stats are a dime a dozen and so its a crap shoot about what schools you actually get into
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Asian racists are trying to say that she does not have Ivy stats.

And they can stay mad (at UVA and W&M), while she chooses between Harvard and Yale (it's going to be one or the other).

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Anonymous wrote:If Nigerians are into academics and science, where are they? I have not heard of any Nigerians at TJ (I have seen 1 from Caribbean Island) and there virtually none (probably 1 or 2) in my son's math/science/engineering classes at his university. 80-90% are Asians/white.

Your world sounds quite small and VA-centric. Not everyone is interested in the TJ to UVA pipeline. It appears that you'll find all the Nigerians you'll ever need at Ivy League universities. According to this NY Times article, many Nigerians appear a lot more interested in business and finance and, specifically, Harvard Business School. I'll re-post this for your education and enlightenment:

Yes, Amy Chua ("Tiger Mom") wrote about Nigerians in her most recent book. This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/opinion/sunday/what-drives-success.html?_r=0

There are some black and Hispanic groups in America that far outperform some white and Asian groups. Immigrants from many West Indian and African countries, such as Jamaica, Ghana, and Haiti, are climbing America’s higher education ladder, but perhaps the most prominent are Nigerians. Nigerians make up less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet in 2013 nearly one-quarter of the black students at Harvard Business School were of Nigerian ancestry; over a fourth of Nigerian-Americans have a graduate or professional degree, as compared with only about 11 percent of whites.

So they don't go for the difficult STEM majors and go where they get the most boost. Remember, George Bush went to HBS as well.

Unlike GWB, NONE of them have fathers who were president of the United States, or grandfathers who were U.S. senators. But somehow, they ended up at, inarguably, the best business school on the planet. They're 1 percent of the black population in the U.S., but they make up nearly 25% of black HBS students. That's nothing short of amazing!

Btw, they're also pretty savvy to go where the money is, don't you think? Most TJ students end up as what, scientists and engineers? That's nice, but it doesn't pay like Wall Street. Most TJ students do not become Bill Gates.

Actually, there are plenty of Ivy grads and east coast MBAs applying for jobs in SV and software developers/engineers make $150,000 - $200,000 fresh out of college in SV with many making much more after several years. In fact, many Hedge Funds, asset management companies (on both coasts) only hire engineering/CS/Math graduates. Hi-tech is the future not discussing case studies.

I'm sure these Nigerian-Americans will have no problem getting those jobs, if desired, with their Harvard MBAs. Btw, do you know that Wall Street/Hedge Fund bonuses can be in the millions? I'll take an annual (multi) million dollar bonus from Goldman Sachs over that $150 to $200K+ any day. Who are you trying to kid?

Anonymous wrote:Here is the point there are tons of kids with Ivy league stats
URM with ivy league stats is an insnaely strong hook hence the 8 Admits
whites and asians with ivy league stats are a dime a dozen and so its a crap shoot about what schools you actually get into
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Asian racists are trying to say that she does not have Ivy stats.

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Anonymous wrote:If Nigerians are into academics and science, where are they? I have not heard of any Nigerians at TJ (I have seen 1 from Caribbean Island) and there virtually none (probably 1 or 2) in my son's math/science/engineering classes at his university. 80-90% are Asians/white.

Your world sounds quite small and VA-centric. Not everyone is interested in the TJ to UVA pipeline. It appears that you'll find all the Nigerians you'll ever need at Ivy League universities. According to this NY Times article, many Nigerians appear a lot more interested in business and finance and, specifically, Harvard Business School. I'll re-post this for your education and enlightenment:

Yes, Amy Chua ("Tiger Mom") wrote about Nigerians in her most recent book. This is from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/26/opinion/sunday/what-drives-success.html?_r=0

There are some black and Hispanic groups in America that far outperform some white and Asian groups. Immigrants from many West Indian and African countries, such as Jamaica, Ghana, and Haiti, are climbing America’s higher education ladder, but perhaps the most prominent are Nigerians. Nigerians make up less than 1 percent of the black population in the United States, yet in 2013 nearly one-quarter of the black students at Harvard Business School were of Nigerian ancestry; over a fourth of Nigerian-Americans have a graduate or professional degree, as compared with only about 11 percent of whites.

So they don't go for the difficult STEM majors and go where they get the most boost. Remember, George Bush went to HBS as well.

Unlike GWB, NONE of them have fathers who were president of the United States, or grandfathers who were U.S. senators. But somehow, they ended up at, inarguably, the best business school on the planet. They're 1 percent of the black population in the U.S., but they make up nearly 25% of black HBS students. That's nothing short of amazing!

Btw, they're also pretty savvy to go where the money is, don't you think? Most TJ students end up as what, scientists and engineers? That's nice, but it doesn't pay like Wall Street. Most TJ students do not become Bill Gates.

Actually, there are plenty of Ivy grads and east coast MBAs applying for jobs in SV and software developers/engineers make $150,000 - $200,000 fresh out of college in SV with many making much more after several years. In fact, many Hedge Funds, asset management companies (on both coasts) only hire engineering/CS/Math graduates. Hi-tech is the future not discussing case studies.

Here is the point there are tons of kids with Ivy league stats
URM with ivy league stats is an insnaely strong hook hence the 8 Admits
whites and asians with ivy league stats are a dime a dozen and so its a crap shoot about what schools you actually get into
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Anonymous wrote:Laughable that people think she got in because standards were lowered due to her race! How's this for a rigged system?

Standards were not lowered, but URM status gave her a boost compared to other applicants with the same stats. It is not racist to recognize it, but it is unhealthy to judge.
Not being a URM, or a legacy, or a top athlete, or poor first-gen should be factored into one's college admissions plan.

I am okay with your last sentence but not with "Standards were not lowered"... So, are you saying her stats are equal/better to Asian/white applicants? Give me a f'king break.

Here's a bit more on her qualifications:

1. She is her school's valedictorian;
2. She has a GPA of 101.64;
3. She is a finalist in the 2016 Intel Science Talent Search for her research on cement that could help prevent underwater oil rigs from rupturing. She also received an invitation to the White House Science Fair; and
4. She will have taken 13 Advanced Placement courses by the time she graduates.

I don't know her unweighted GPA, but it was enough to beat EVERY SINGLE WHITE AND ASIAN STUDENT in her graduating class because she's the valedictorian.

1. She is her school's valedictorian; There are more than 27,000 valedictorians every year! There's only ONE from her school.
2. She has a GPA of 101.64; Some pointed out that is similar to 4.03 weighted GPA with 13 APs. That would be roughly 3.6 to 3.7 unweighted gpa depending on the grades in those AP courses. You and I have no idea what her unweighted GPA is, but we both know it's high.
3. She is a finalist in the 2016 Intel Science Talent Search for her research on cement that could help prevent underwater oil rigs from rupturing. She also received an invitation to the White House Science Fair; Many people in the past have pointed out these competitions are unreliable since we do not know how much is the student's work and how much is not. One of the reason Intel is pulling out of the sponsorship. You lost me, and the argument, by opening with "many people..."
4. She will have taken 13 Advanced Placement courses by the time she graduates. There are literally tens of thousand students graduating with more APs not accepted by selective colleges especially Asians. And there are Asians and whites who are accepted with far fewer. Your point?

I don't know her unweighted GPA, but it was enough to beat EVERY SINGLE WHITE AND ASIAN STUDENT in her graduating class because she's the valedictorian.

We can say the same thing about white/Asian valedictorians yet these valedictorians are passed over for the URMs in that same high school in college admissions.

It is estimated that majority if not more of the science fair projects involve substantial assistance from other people. There are many parents writing college essays or paying other people to write college essays.