Anonymous wrote:
Since Cooper already has a LLIV program and is significantly under enrolled, it makes complete sense to turn it into a full fledged center to relieve some of the over crowding pressure at Kilmer and soon to be at Longfellow. Turning Thoreau's LLIV program into a full fledged center also will relieve some pressure from Kilmer. It is basic student management with the benefit of more students attending their base school with their neighborhood friends.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
Nothing like a school community pawning off a significant portion of its students to already over crowded schools so they can have their " small community " school. Hint: it isn't really a nice community if you exclude people from it.
No one is trying to exclude anyone. AAP kids can still attend Cooper without it being designated a "center". But apparently, without the center designation, it's just not "good enough" for AAP kids. If centers ceased to exist, this wouldn't be a problem now, would it? Food for thought.
Let's see if it passes the smell test if it were a different population. For example, ESOL- say the ESOL program is only available at an overcrowded school outside of the base school district and there were sufficient numbers to run a perfectly respectable program at the home school. Would it. Be okay to say you are not excluding them because they could enroll in the regular classes if they wanted? What happened if it were for an LD program, would the answer change then? It is exclusive if the only way to go to the base school is to forgo classes aimed at the student's ability level. Food for thought.
But since Cooper is already a LLIV, advanced kids can access the AAP curriculum there. So your argument falls flat. Nice try though equating kids who are primarily above average bright and achievement oriented with those who have LD's or an inability to speak English. As usual AAP entitlement knows no bounds!
Since Cooper already has a LLIV program and is significantly under enrolled, it makes complete sense to turn it into a full fledged center to relieve some of the over crowding pressure at Kilmer and soon to be at Longfellow. Turning Thoreau's LLIV program into a full fledged center also will relieve some pressure from Kilmer. It is basic student management with the benefit of more students attending their base school with their neighborhood friends.
What, exactly, would change from simply offering LLIV to designating it a "full-fledged center"? Gold-plated science labs? Marble bathrooms? Teachers who are PhDs? Please, enlighten us: why should Cooper be a "full-fledged center"? Is it just the name change so you can save face when you tell your friends that your child attends a "center" rather than a normal school?
I'm wondering why Cooper is apparently just fine for the "regular" kids, but in order for it to be AAP-worthy, changes have to be made. If anyone wonders why current Cooper families do not want their school to become a center, you need only read some of the nonsense spewed by entitled AAP parents. Who would want that element at their school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
Nothing like a school community pawning off a significant portion of its students to already over crowded schools so they can have their " small community " school. Hint: it isn't really a nice community if you exclude people from it.
No one is trying to exclude anyone. AAP kids can still attend Cooper without it being designated a "center". But apparently, without the center designation, it's just not "good enough" for AAP kids. If centers ceased to exist, this wouldn't be a problem now, would it? Food for thought.
Let's see if it passes the smell test if it were a different population. For example, ESOL- say the ESOL program is only available at an overcrowded school outside of the base school district and there were sufficient numbers to run a perfectly respectable program at the home school. Would it. Be okay to say you are not excluding them because they could enroll in the regular classes if they wanted? What happened if it were for an LD program, would the answer change then? It is exclusive if the only way to go to the base school is to forgo classes aimed at the student's ability level. Food for thought.
But since Cooper is already a LLIV, advanced kids can access the AAP curriculum there. So your argument falls flat. Nice try though equating kids who are primarily above average bright and achievement oriented with those who have LD's or an inability to speak English. As usual AAP entitlement knows no bounds!
Since Cooper already has a LLIV program and is significantly under enrolled, it makes complete sense to turn it into a full fledged center to relieve some of the over crowding pressure at Kilmer and soon to be at Longfellow. Turning Thoreau's LLIV program into a full fledged center also will relieve some pressure from Kilmer. It is basic student management with the benefit of more students attending their base school with their neighborhood friends.
What, exactly, would change from simply offering LLIV to designating it a "full-fledged center"? Gold-plated science labs? Marble bathrooms? Teachers who are PhDs? Please, enlighten us: why should Cooper be a "full-fledged center"? Is it just the name change so you can save face when you tell your friends that your child attends a "center" rather than a normal school?
I'm wondering why Cooper is apparently just fine for the "regular" kids, but in order for it to be AAP-worthy, changes have to be made. If anyone wonders why current Cooper families do not want their school to become a center, you need only read some of the nonsense spewed by entitled AAP parents. Who would want that element at their school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
Nothing like a school community pawning off a significant portion of its students to already over crowded schools so they can have their " small community " school. Hint: it isn't really a nice community if you exclude people from it.
No one is trying to exclude anyone. AAP kids can still attend Cooper without it being designated a "center". But apparently, without the center designation, it's just not "good enough" for AAP kids. If centers ceased to exist, this wouldn't be a problem now, would it? Food for thought.
Let's see if it passes the smell test if it were a different population. For example, ESOL- say the ESOL program is only available at an overcrowded school outside of the base school district and there were sufficient numbers to run a perfectly respectable program at the home school. Would it. Be okay to say you are not excluding them because they could enroll in the regular classes if they wanted? What happened if it were for an LD program, would the answer change then? It is exclusive if the only way to go to the base school is to forgo classes aimed at the student's ability level. Food for thought.
But since Cooper is already a LLIV, advanced kids can access the AAP curriculum there. So your argument falls flat. Nice try though equating kids who are primarily above average bright and achievement oriented with those who have LD's or an inability to speak English. As usual AAP entitlement knows no bounds!
Since Cooper already has a LLIV program and is significantly under enrolled, it makes complete sense to turn it into a full fledged center to relieve some of the over crowding pressure at Kilmer and soon to be at Longfellow. Turning Thoreau's LLIV program into a full fledged center also will relieve some pressure from Kilmer. It is basic student management with the benefit of more students attending their base school with their neighborhood friends.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
Nothing like a school community pawning off a significant portion of its students to already over crowded schools so they can have their " small community " school. Hint: it isn't really a nice community if you exclude people from it.
No one is trying to exclude anyone. AAP kids can still attend Cooper without it being designated a "center". But apparently, without the center designation, it's just not "good enough" for AAP kids. If centers ceased to exist, this wouldn't be a problem now, would it? Food for thought.
Let's see if it passes the smell test if it were a different population. For example, ESOL- say the ESOL program is only available at an overcrowded school outside of the base school district and there were sufficient numbers to run a perfectly respectable program at the home school. Would it. Be okay to say you are not excluding them because they could enroll in the regular classes if they wanted? What happened if it were for an LD program, would the answer change then? It is exclusive if the only way to go to the base school is to forgo classes aimed at the student's ability level. Food for thought.
But since Cooper is already a LLIV, advanced kids can access the AAP curriculum there. So your argument falls flat. Nice try though equating kids who are primarily above average bright and achievement oriented with those who have LD's or an inability to speak English. As usual AAP entitlement knows no bounds!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
Nothing like a school community pawning off a significant portion of its students to already over crowded schools so they can have their " small community " school. Hint: it isn't really a nice community if you exclude people from it.
No one is trying to exclude anyone. AAP kids can still attend Cooper without it being designated a "center". But apparently, without the center designation, it's just not "good enough" for AAP kids. If centers ceased to exist, this wouldn't be a problem now, would it? Food for thought.
Let's see if it passes the smell test if it were a different population. For example, ESOL- say the ESOL program is only available at an overcrowded school outside of the base school district and there were sufficient numbers to run a perfectly respectable program at the home school. Would it. Be okay to say you are not excluding them because they could enroll in the regular classes if they wanted? What happened if it were for an LD program, would the answer change then? It is exclusive if the only way to go to the base school is to forgo classes aimed at the student's ability level. Food for thought.
But since Cooper is already a LLIV, advanced kids can access the AAP curriculum there. So your argument falls flat. Nice try though equating kids who are primarily above average bright and achievement oriented with those who have LD's or an inability to speak English. As usual AAP entitlement knows no bounds!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
Nothing like a school community pawning off a significant portion of its students to already over crowded schools so they can have their " small community " school. Hint: it isn't really a nice community if you exclude people from it.
No one is trying to exclude anyone. AAP kids can still attend Cooper without it being designated a "center". But apparently, without the center designation, it's just not "good enough" for AAP kids. If centers ceased to exist, this wouldn't be a problem now, would it? Food for thought.
Let's see if it passes the smell test if it were a different population. For example, ESOL- say the ESOL program is only available at an overcrowded school outside of the base school district and there were sufficient numbers to run a perfectly respectable program at the home school. Would it. Be okay to say you are not excluding them because they could enroll in the regular classes if they wanted? What happened if it were for an LD program, would the answer change then? It is exclusive if the only way to go to the base school is to forgo classes aimed at the student's ability level. Food for thought.
Anonymous wrote:The only reason they want the center designation is to eliminate the choice between Cooper and Kilmer/Longfellow and compel the AAP students to attend Cooper instead.
How about sending Cooper some of the teachers from Kilmer/Longfellow to man the new center? Where are all of the AAP teachers at Kilmer/Longfellow going to go without the surplus of AAP kids?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
Nothing like a school community pawning off a significant portion of its students to already over crowded schools so they can have their " small community " school. Hint: it isn't really a nice community if you exclude people from it.
No one is trying to exclude anyone. AAP kids can still attend Cooper without it being designated a "center". But apparently, without the center designation, it's just not "good enough" for AAP kids. If centers ceased to exist, this wouldn't be a problem now, would it? Food for thought.
Let's see if it passes the smell test if it were a different population. For example, ESOL- say the ESOL program is only available at an overcrowded school outside of the base school district and there were sufficient numbers to run a perfectly respectable program at the home school. Would it. Be okay to say you are not excluding them because they could enroll in the regular classes if they wanted? What happened if it were for an LD program, would the answer change then? It is exclusive if the only way to go to the base school is to forgo classes aimed at the student's ability level. Food for thought.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
Nothing like a school community pawning off a significant portion of its students to already over crowded schools so they can have their " small community " school. Hint: it isn't really a nice community if you exclude people from it.
No one is trying to exclude anyone. AAP kids can still attend Cooper without it being designated a "center". But apparently, without the center designation, it's just not "good enough" for AAP kids. If centers ceased to exist, this wouldn't be a problem now, would it? Food for thought.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can anyone add anything substantive to this conversation for Pete's sake?? I am truly interested to know Principal Randall's attitude about all of this.
Arlene very much wants Cooper to become a center. That said, she emphasizes that she runs her school as a family and will not have a school with an "us vs. them" mentality (much like what we see expressed on these boards). Her philosophy is that the school should meet students where they are and provide an appropriately rigorous program to elevate them in their learning. She explains that AAP students will be clustered together for their core classes and will be with their peers for the others; there will not be isolation as is the case at some other schools.
Bottom line: She has spent the last 4 years developing the program they are currently offering, and she wants the students zoned for Cooper to come to the school now that they offer the program.
This is not what I've heard at all.
Call her and ask. Cooper's phone number is 703-442-5800.
If she's expressing any enthusiasm at all about this plan, it's only because she's been strong armed into it. She originally was opposed to making Cooper an AAP center, as she knew most Cooper families were opposed to it. Nothing like ruining a nice, community school by turning it into a center.
Nothing like a school community pawning off a significant portion of its students to already over crowded schools so they can have their " small community " school. Hint: it isn't really a nice community if you exclude people from it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kilmer people who are still moaning-THE AAP KIDS HAVE ALREADY FOR THE MOST PART LEFT YOUR CENTER FOR COOPER!!! Read the statistics!!
Why the Longfellow based kids need to leave when the school as capacity (NOT OVERCROWDED) remains a mystery...of course, all about "fairness"
Fairness would be for students in the Cooper catchment district to (gasp) attend Cooper.
Anonymous wrote:Kilmer people who are still moaning-THE AAP KIDS HAVE ALREADY FOR THE MOST PART LEFT YOUR CENTER FOR COOPER!!! Read the statistics!!
Why the Longfellow based kids need to leave when the school as capacity (NOT OVERCROWDED) remains a mystery...of course, all about "fairness"