Anonymous
05/12/2015 19:26
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:DNA of victims was found on the Freedom Tower site, yet the Freedom Tower was allowed to be built.
It's a tribute. Not a 'cultural center' reflecting the very religion who's zealots murdered those victims.
Muslima
05/12/2015 19:25
Subject: Re:Pamela Geller is nuts
I don't know what's worse, bigots who hide behind free speech (then outrageously compare themselves to Rosa Parks, yes Geller did that) or the ignoramus who follow them blindly. When even Trump, Fox News, and Charlie Hebdo think you've gone too far, it is time to hit on the pause button and ponder on your actions. Geller's event was not based on the love and defense of the 1st amendment , it was based solely upon her hate for Muslims and her twisted logic. That is not protecting freedom of speech, it's using it to spread hate and to dismantle another constitutional right: freedom to practice your religion freely without fear of persecution.
Anonymous
05/12/2015 19:23
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many blocks away? Are there any Hebrew language public schools?
The Islamic Cultural Center proposal (it was not an actual mosque, but an intercultural center to promote inter-faith dialogue and had a prayer space for Muslims inside) was 2 blocks from Ground Zero.
There is a public charter school in Brooklyn called Hebrew Language Academy Charter School.
Really, why are people so lazy? I found both of these "facts" with about 30 seconds on Google.
2 blocks away from ground zero is insensitive to the victims. Be normal , pick a less controversial location. I'm against Hebrew and Arab public schools. Until the 90 percent of crap public schools teach math and English at a much higher level .. Wtf ?
Why does Pam Geller have the right to organize a cartoon contest, but the owners of a property two blocks from ground zero not have the right to build what they want on their own property?
A cartoon contest isn't a permanent fixture causing never ending grief to victims of the largest attack ever to take place on the continental United States . If Muslims want to draw a cartoon of the towers falling they are well within their rights.
And putting that 'cultural center' there is no accident:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/06/the_ground_zero_mosque_and_con.html
Anonymous
05/12/2015 19:18
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with opposing mosques on the 911 site or public schools teaching religion .
Yet neither of those things was true. The mosque was blocks away, next to an off-track betting parlor. And the public school did not teach religion. It taught the Arabic language.
DNA of victims were found on that site. Do you really think when a plane hits buildings, the site is limited? Why didn't the Imam respect that? Why don't you?
What happened to the First Amendment? I thought it was about respecting someone's freedom no matter whether we found it offensive or not???
Y'all sure turn tail and run on the Constitution when it suits you.
jsteele
05/12/2015 19:09
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with opposing mosques on the 911 site or public schools teaching religion .
Yet neither of those things was true. The mosque was blocks away, next to an off-track betting parlor. And the public school did not teach religion. It taught the Arabic language.
DNA of victims were found on that site. Do you really think when a plane hits buildings, the site is limited? Why didn't the Imam respect that? Why don't you?
Regarding the public school, there's this:
"The controversy surrounding the founding of New York City’s Arabic language public school, Khalil Gibran International Academy, last year continues. Former principal Dhabah “Debbie” Almontaser was asked to step down after publicly defending T-shirts produced by Arab Women Active in the Arts and Media, an organization with whom she shared office space, emblazoned with “Intifada NYC.” But KGIA has other troublesome associations. Its advisory board includes three imams, one of whom, New York University Imam Khalid Latif, sent a threatening letter to the university’s president regarding a planned display of the Danish cartoons. Another, Shamsi Ali, runs the Jamaica Muslim Center Quranic Memorization School in Queens, a replica of the type of Pakistani madrassa (or school) counter-terrorism officials have been warning about since 9/11. Accordingly, several parents founded Stop the Madrassa: A Community Coalition to voice their contention that KGIA is an inappropriate candidate for taxpayer funding."
https://stopthemadrassa.wordpress.com/category/brooklyn/
Of course, the organization leading the opposition to the school is an objective source. As one example of how that organization misleads, Imam Khalid Latif is a Chaplin for the NYPD. Do you think the NYPD would hire a Muslim who writes threatening letters -- or that the University would have continued to employ him if he had?
Anonymous
05/12/2015 19:06
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
So when someone who identifies as Muslim does something intolerant like have a Holocaust denial cartoon contest (Iran?), they are backwards and intolerant and anti-Semitic and crazy because Islam, but when anyone else does something offensive to Muslims, it is automatically celebrated as being brave and something everyone MUST definitely do if they believe in Freedom and all that is American...? Got it.
Anonymous
05/12/2015 18:51
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
DNA of victims was found on the Freedom Tower site, yet the Freedom Tower was allowed to be built.
Anonymous
05/12/2015 18:46
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nothing wrong with opposing mosques on the 911 site or public schools teaching religion .
Yet neither of those things was true. The mosque was blocks away, next to an off-track betting parlor. And the public school did not teach religion. It taught the Arabic language.
DNA of victims were found on that site. Do you really think when a plane hits buildings, the site is limited? Why didn't the Imam respect that? Why don't you?
Regarding the public school, there's this:
"The controversy surrounding the founding of New York City’s Arabic language public school, Khalil Gibran International Academy, last year continues. Former principal Dhabah “Debbie” Almontaser was asked to step down after publicly defending T-shirts produced by Arab Women Active in the Arts and Media, an organization with whom she shared office space, emblazoned with “Intifada NYC.” But KGIA has other troublesome associations. Its advisory board includes three imams, one of whom, New York University Imam Khalid Latif, sent a threatening letter to the university’s president regarding a planned display of the Danish cartoons. Another, Shamsi Ali, runs the Jamaica Muslim Center Quranic Memorization School in Queens, a replica of the type of Pakistani madrassa (or school) counter-terrorism officials have been warning about since 9/11. Accordingly, several parents founded Stop the Madrassa: A Community Coalition to voice their contention that KGIA is an inappropriate candidate for taxpayer funding."
https://stopthemadrassa.wordpress.com/category/brooklyn/
Anonymous
05/12/2015 18:03
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:How many blocks away? Are there any Hebrew language public schools?
Yes, there are tons of Hebrew charter schools i NYC.
Hebrew Language Academy in Brooklyn. Harlem Hebrew Language Academy.
From HebrewCharterSchools.org:
Anonymous
05/12/2015 17:53
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many blocks away? Are there any Hebrew language public schools?
The Islamic Cultural Center proposal (it was not an actual mosque, but an intercultural center to promote inter-faith dialogue and had a prayer space for Muslims inside) was 2 blocks from Ground Zero.
There is a public charter school in Brooklyn called Hebrew Language Academy Charter School.
Really, why are people so lazy? I found both of these "facts" with about 30 seconds on Google.
2 blocks away from ground zero is insensitive to the victims. Be normal , pick a less controversial location. I'm against Hebrew and Arab public schools. Until the 90 percent of crap public schools teach math and English at a much higher level .. Wtf ?
Why does Pam Geller have the right to organize a cartoon contest, but the owners of a property two blocks from ground zero not have the right to build what they want on their own property?
A cartoon contest isn't a permanent fixture causing never ending grief to victims of the largest attack ever to take place on the continental United States . If Muslims want to draw a cartoon of the towers falling they are well within their rights.
Wow, so 1st Amendment depends on whose feelings are affected. I never knew that!
Sorry but a mosque should not cause "neverending grief".
Anonymous
05/12/2015 17:52
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, what is your take n female genital mutilation?
Is that "stupid" and fake as well?
http://egyptianstreets.com/2015/05/10/92-of-married-women-in-egypt-have-undergone-female-genital-mutilation/
Most married women in Egypt went through genital mutilation - health minister
Published time: May 11, 2015 17:17
"Some 92 percent of married women in Egypt underwent female genital mutilation, the country’s health minister said, citing a recent study. He added that the majority of girls face this ordeal when they are only nine to 12 years old.
The results of the Egypt Demographic and Health Survey (EDHS) were announced by Health Minister Adel Adawy at a Sunday conference dedicated to the study, Egyptian media reported. The poll was carried out last year and involved women aged 15 to 49.
According to the minister, only 31 percent of the operationiis are carried out by doctors, with most being performed by traditional midwives and “health barbers.”
The rate of female circumcision in rural places is extremely high – almost 95 percent while in urban areas it reaches 39.2 percent, the minister said."
It is barbarous and beyond disgusting.
It isn't rare, either. It isn't a lie or "stupid" to point out Islam mutilates women.
Can you point me to the text in "Islam" that promotes the mutilation of women? I'll wait...
Check the Hadiths.
Which Hadith, exactly? Please point me in the right direction. As a muslim woman, I'm curious to know which part of my religion mandates this and why islam is cutting off people's genitals.
The poster has no clue what they are saying.
It's mentioned for sure. This is where justification is found for the practice.
http://islamqa.info/en/427
What exactly have you read and understood from this link? Because as a practicing Muslim, islamQa is the last place I go when I have a question. And even they are saying its not required and the justification is possibly not even based on an authentic source soooo...
Lol this is actually funny. For one, islamQA is such a mixed bag as it is written by anonymous people who respond to random questions submitted to them. It is a site that leans towards salafism and wahabism but what's even more laughable is that on the link the Pp shared they themselves say : 1. It is not obligatory
2. They cite A hadith that mentions female circumcision and also add that the hadith is Daeef which means WEAK lol . So this is your proof??? Oh boy, ridonculusss !!!
Can I ask what country you are here from and why you came here?
In order to answer this question properly, multiple will need to respond.
Anonymous
05/12/2015 17:50
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many blocks away? Are there any Hebrew language public schools?
The Islamic Cultural Center proposal (it was not an actual mosque, but an intercultural center to promote inter-faith dialogue and had a prayer space for Muslims inside) was 2 blocks from Ground Zero.
There is a public charter school in Brooklyn called Hebrew Language Academy Charter School.
Really, why are people so lazy? I found both of these "facts" with about 30 seconds on Google.
2 blocks away from ground zero is insensitive to the victims. Be normal , pick a less controversial location. I'm against Hebrew and Arab public schools. Until the 90 percent of crap public schools teach math and English at a much higher level .. Wtf ?
Why does Pam Geller have the right to organize a cartoon contest, but the owners of a property two blocks from ground zero not have the right to build what they want on their own property?
A cartoon contest isn't a permanent fixture causing never ending grief to victims of the largest attack ever to take place on the continental United States . If Muslims want to draw a cartoon of the towers falling they are well within their rights.
Anonymous
05/12/2015 17:48
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many blocks away? Are there any Hebrew language public schools?
The Islamic Cultural Center proposal (it was not an actual mosque, but an intercultural center to promote inter-faith dialogue and had a prayer space for Muslims inside) was 2 blocks from Ground Zero.
There is a public charter school in Brooklyn called Hebrew Language Academy Charter School.
Really, why are people so lazy? I found both of these "facts" with about 30 seconds on Google.
2 blocks away from ground zero is insensitive to the victims . Be normal , pick a less controversial location. I'm against Hebrew and Arab public schools. Until the 90 percent of crap public schools teach math and English at a much higher level .. Wtf ?
So having a cultural center with one part of its mission being to promote interfaith dialogue and to encourage people to learn about Islam, held at the site of a major tragedy as a way to bridge the cultural divide that lead to that tragedy is insensitive but holding a conference whose entire message was to caricature a major religious figure in a way that is considered blasphemous by that religion is not offensive and should not only be condoned but encouraged. So the Muslims need to get over being offended because their religious proscription is anti-American, but the idea of promoting peace and intercultural dialogue is insensitive. Got it.
jsteele
05/12/2015 17:46
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many blocks away? Are there any Hebrew language public schools?
The Islamic Cultural Center proposal (it was not an actual mosque, but an intercultural center to promote inter-faith dialogue and had a prayer space for Muslims inside) was 2 blocks from Ground Zero.
There is a public charter school in Brooklyn called Hebrew Language Academy Charter School.
Really, why are people so lazy? I found both of these "facts" with about 30 seconds on Google.
2 blocks away from ground zero is insensitive to the victims . Be normal , pick a less controversial location. I'm against Hebrew and Arab public schools. Until the 90 percent of crap public schools teach math and English at a much higher level .. Wtf ?
No, no, haven't you been reading the posts from Geller's supporters? It is absolutely essential that we exercise our rights to free expression regardless of who is insulted. If we censor ourselves and show sensitivity, we are basically burning the 1st Amendment. If you start with worrying about the feelings of 9/11 victims, how long before you don't want to draw cartoons insulting Muhammad? It's a slippery slope.
Anonymous
05/12/2015 17:45
Subject: Pamela Geller is nuts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many blocks away? Are there any Hebrew language public schools?
The Islamic Cultural Center proposal (it was not an actual mosque, but an intercultural center to promote inter-faith dialogue and had a prayer space for Muslims inside) was 2 blocks from Ground Zero.
There is a public charter school in Brooklyn called Hebrew Language Academy Charter School.
Really, why are people so lazy? I found both of these "facts" with about 30 seconds on Google.
2 blocks away from ground zero is insensitive to the victims. Be normal , pick a less controversial location. I'm against Hebrew and Arab public schools. Until the 90 percent of crap public schools teach math and English at a much higher level .. Wtf ?
Why does Pam Geller have the right to organize a cartoon contest, but the owners of a property two blocks from ground zero not have the right to build what they want on their own property?