Anonymous wrote:You do know that a person has every right to face their accuser and when they found out that you snitched. Oh! Well just be prepared for a scuffle in the school yard. Remember there's no confidential agreement signed with DCPS employees so...when the gossop-mill starts which is usually pretty accurate information. Then it is onn like Donkey-Kong.

You can leave an anonymous tip. This poster seems unbalanced and crazy. And even if you did find out who accused you, you should have no problem facing them. I would have no problem asking why you drive a car with out of state plates, your kid talks about their house in MD, and other questions.

Anonymous wrote:You do know that a person has every right to face their accuser and when they found out that you snitched. Oh! Well just be prepared for a scuffle in the school yard. Remember there's no confidential agreement signed with DCPS employees so...when the gossop-mill starts which is usually pretty accurate information. Then it is onn like Donkey-Kong.

First, a person does NOT have the right to face their accuser in such instances.
Second, are you really threatening physical violence?
Third, is this how you parent?

Anonymous wrote:You do know that a person has every right to face their accuser and when they found out that you snitched. Oh! Well just be prepared for a scuffle in the school yard. Remember there's no confidential agreement signed with DCPS employees so...when the gossop-mill starts which is usually pretty accurate information. Then it is onn like Donkey-Kong.

Shhh.. The grownups are talking.

I'm a ward 5 resident and a liberal. I'm totally against residency fraud (why would PP think liberals were for this? Boggles my mind).

Here in Ward 5 we are all playing he lottery so it hurts us. When good spots go to non DC residents.

I've also met a kid who told me she loves in MD, went to Noyes, and was currently in my neighborhood visiting her aunt. This was a few years ago when Noyes had crazy high test score so maybe that is why they did it.
Kudos to OP for reporting. Yes it is not a certainty but let OSSE investigate and determine that.

Good for you, OP. This is a problem that can't be stopped unless people report what they see. If the family can prove residency, then there shouldn't be a problem. But there should be more people like you.

You do know that a person has every right to face their accuser and when they found out that you snitched. Oh! Well just be prepared for a scuffle in the school yard. Remember there's no confidential agreement signed with DCPS employees so...when the gossop-mill starts which is usually pretty accurate information. Then it is onn like Donkey-Kong.

Anonymous wrote:And then you use that conversation, with a minor child, to make assumptions about their family and whether or not their parents are evil residence cheaters. Because that's the kind of mom you are!

I'd say these kids in pg who aren't good enough for your kids are quite fortunate, not living close enough for playdates.

Listen. I am not reporting any of these children, nor am I trying to work them for information. I don't have kids over for indoor playdates without the permission of their parents, and frankly, most parents and guardians aren't thrilled to have playdates with parents they don't know at all. I have often had kids into our yard for popsicles or juice boxes if they are all playing outside together and it's okay with whoever is minding them. The kids are fine and sweet and I'm happy they feel comfortable with our family.

But when they tell you they attend a local school and they also live in Maryland, it's residency fraud. And yes, I think it's shitty of the parents to do that to them. I get that you think it's fine for parents to defraud the system based on their personal needs, but it is still 100 percent wrong. There are plenty of DC kids who deserve DC resources ahead of kids from other states.

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Anonymous wrote:But it's quite obvious that you are a bitter shrew. A bitter, race-baiting, whiny shrew. I'm still not convinced these masses of boundary cheates exist. And saying logical things to you like, "sometimes kids have more than one residence," or, "sometimes people with md plates pick up kids in dc," make no impression whatsoever. You think you would at least have the social graces to keep your psycho obsession with stalking poor kids from pg a secret, but no. Perhaps it is all you have. Although, let me say it's a low, low bar, gaming the system to get into a dcps. Why aren't they going for moco? Or parts of virginia? these imaginary children whosent guardians have infinite time and gas to bring them anywhere?

I'm not the poster that you're responding to, but you protest too much. I've suspected many, many kids over here in Ward 5 of being in DCPS schools fraudulently. When they say they go to Burroughs but they live in Maryland, it's pretty damn obvious. Since I'm not a parent at that school nor interested in "stalking" kids, as you say it, I've never reported anyone. But I would be very glad if someone who had some hard facts followed up. Yes, it sucks for the kids. But it's unconscionable that their parents have put them in that position.

I really don't understand people who defend that kind of behavior.

Why are you approaching and talking to these elementary students if you don't have any children at the school? Stranger-Danger.

Uh, no. In many cases kids have asked if they can come over to my house and I say, "Let's talk to your mom or dad and see what they think; are you a neighbor?" Maybe you're not approachable? Kids often talk to us on the playground, especially when they're actively playing with our kids.

Yes, I guess I am your neighbor since I play tennis at Dwight Mosley and my child has played on the playground. I still do not get how you can assume these kids live in Maryland based on the information you provided. Burroughs is considered one of the better ES in Ward 5, and since so many Ward 5 students attend charters, Burroughs and Bunker Hill have a lot of OOB kids from Ward 7.

So.... it's not that they are poor black children, it's that their parents are spoiled government workers, who act like they are entitled to things.

Whereas you, a simple sahm with a husband who works for a lobbyist or think tank (one assumes) don't act entitled at all.

And then you use that conversation, with a minor child, to make assumptions about their family and whether or not their parents are evil residence cheaters. Because that's the kind of mom you are!

I'd say these kids in pg who aren't good enough for your kids are quite fortunate, not living close enough for playdates.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is difficult situation b/c many of the kids are descendants of native Washingtonians and have families who live in MD, VA or DC. These kids are sometimes transient and are in and out of relatives house. I think many UMC white people come from a nuclear family background and don't understand that some of these kids have different family situations. That is my experience at least.

"Descendants of native Washingtonians?" Like Powhatan or Algonquian?

Gentrification has squeezed a lot of multi-generational Washingtonians out of their homes. Even parts of Ward 7&8 are not affordable for many low-income families. After reading Ta-Nehisi Coates' "The Case for Reparations", perhaps we owe these kids this education. Read the story. These discussion have lots of racial overtones to them and bear a resemblance to debates about housing restrictions and school desegregation in previous eras.

You are assuming that the residency cheaters are black. That's probably often the case. But you are also assuming that the residency cheaters are poor blacks, and that is most likely not the case. My bet would be that few or zero residency cheats qualify for FARM. They are stealing seats from DC resident FARM kids. This is not some simplistic white snowflake versus black urchin morality play. As I am sure you are aware, a small segment of black DC has done very well financially, in some cases due to govt connections, and unfortunately, through government corruption, for an even smaller subset. This phenomenon we are discussing is one in which reasonably well educated middle income people are dishonestly manipulating a govt system for their own personal gain.

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Anonymous wrote:But it's quite obvious that you are a bitter shrew. A bitter, race-baiting, whiny shrew. I'm still not convinced these masses of boundary cheates exist. And saying logical things to you like, "sometimes kids have more than one residence," or, "sometimes people with md plates pick up kids in dc," make no impression whatsoever. You think you would at least have the social graces to keep your psycho obsession with stalking poor kids from pg a secret, but no. Perhaps it is all you have. Although, let me say it's a low, low bar, gaming the system to get into a dcps. Why aren't they going for moco? Or parts of virginia? these imaginary children whosent guardians have infinite time and gas to bring them anywhere?

I'm not the poster that you're responding to, but you protest too much. I've suspected many, many kids over here in Ward 5 of being in DCPS schools fraudulently. When they say they go to Burroughs but they live in Maryland, it's pretty damn obvious. Since I'm not a parent at that school nor interested in "stalking" kids, as you say it, I've never reported anyone. But I would be very glad if someone who had some hard facts followed up. Yes, it sucks for the kids. But it's unconscionable that their parents have put them in that position.

I really don't understand people who defend that kind of behavior.

Why are you approaching and talking to these elementary students if you don't have any children at the school? Stranger-Danger.

Uh, no. In many cases kids have asked if they can come over to my house and I say, "Let's talk to your mom or dad and see what they think; are you a neighbor?" Maybe you're not approachable? Kids often talk to us on the playground, especially when they're actively playing with our kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Real Estate Broker here.

I've had numerous transactions where a family held onto Grandma's house (in DC) after she was deceased for the school issue. It's not just pre-K. It's easy drop off from work, better schools (although not that good), and tradition (what has always been done -- like church parking).

But DC Vacant Real Property Tax has changed things. The taxes on a vacant house are so high, it forces the sale. And change. But 3-6 siblings end up with about $100K each, depending on the property.

It's not always money, it's culture.

What transactions are these families having with you if they are not selling the homes?

See paragraph 2, bolded area.

Anonymous wrote:Real Estate Broker here.

I've had numerous transactions where a family held onto Grandma's house (in DC) after she was deceased for the school issue. It's not just pre-K. It's easy drop off from work, better schools (although not that good), and tradition (what has always been done -- like church parking).

But DC Vacant Real Property Tax has changed things. The taxes on a vacant house are so high, it forces the sale. And change. But 3-6 siblings end up with about $100K each, depending on the property.

It's not always money, it's culture.

What transactions are these families having with you if they are not selling the homes?

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Anonymous wrote:But it's quite obvious that you are a bitter shrew. A bitter, race-baiting, whiny shrew. I'm still not convinced these masses of boundary cheates exist. And saying logical things to you like, "sometimes kids have more than one residence," or, "sometimes people with md plates pick up kids in dc," make no impression whatsoever. You think you would at least have the social graces to keep your psycho obsession with stalking poor kids from pg a secret, but no. Perhaps it is all you have. Although, let me say it's a low, low bar, gaming the system to get into a dcps. Why aren't they going for moco? Or parts of virginia? these imaginary children whosent guardians have infinite time and gas to bring them anywhere?

I'm not the poster that you're responding to, but you protest too much. I've suspected many, many kids over here in Ward 5 of being in DCPS schools fraudulently. When they say they go to Burroughs but they live in Maryland, it's pretty damn obvious. Since I'm not a parent at that school nor interested in "stalking" kids, as you say it, I've never reported anyone. But I would be very glad if someone who had some hard facts followed up. Yes, it sucks for the kids. But it's unconscionable that their parents have put them in that position.

I really don't understand people who defend that kind of behavior.

Why are you approaching and talking to these elementary students if you don't have any children at the school? Stranger-Danger.