Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will flat out say it. I blame the boys more than the girls if the girls did not intend for the pictures to become public. While I would prefer that my daughter not send her boyfriend naked pictures, I see that as way more acceptable in the context of a loving relationship (or what she mistakenly thinks is a loving relationship -- weren't we all in love in high school) than breaching your girlfriend's trust and circulating or posting pictures for all to see.
Agreed.
Anonymous wrote:So all you moms see nothing wrong with the girls posting nude selfies on social media? I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the girls sent them directly to the Dropbox themselves. Without the girls' naked pics, the boys would have been playing Call of Duty.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Here is what we actually know:
The facts that are in the article are available to all. A site allegedly created by a sophomore boy at a senior boy's home allegedly contained explicit pictures of girls labeled with their names and then a link to the site was circulated among students.
We get that if it turns out to be the case that girls took these pictures themselves that that was wrong, but purposely taking actions that will embarrass others and possibly expose them to danger is far more wrong than sending a picture privately to another. It makes no sense at all to give these actions equal culpability. One doesn't need a legal background to perceive the different levels of culpability here.
Oh mommy, a bunch of the girls have not been identified yet...a bunch of people are pretty worried and frightened. You sound like one of the worried ones. Therefore, the desire to place more blame on the boys who received the photos.
The girls purpously took actions that will embarrass others and possibly expose themselves to danger, also.
I don't see any objectivity in your post, PP. Unless the Post is lying about the photos being pornographic.
Anonymous wrote:Here is what we actually know:
The facts that are in the article are available to all. A site allegedly created by a sophomore boy at a senior boy's home allegedly contained explicit pictures of girls labeled with their names and then a link to the site was circulated among students.
We get that if it turns out to be the case that girls took these pictures themselves that that was wrong, but purposely taking actions that will embarrass others and possibly expose them to danger is far more wrong than sending a picture privately to another. It makes no sense at all to give these actions equal culpability. One doesn't need a legal background to perceive the different levels of culpability here.
Anonymous wrote:Really, I highly doubt that "most" girls out there are taking explicit pictures of themselves. And it just does not logically follow that giving one person a picture equates to permission for that person to publish that picture on a porn site. There's a huge leap there.
Of course these girls and their families must be angry. These boys deliberately took actions to humiliate these girls and place them in danger. Who wouldn't be angry in these circumstances? If it does turn out that the boys were given the pictures, they broke the trust they had with the other person. And the article mentions 52 different folders: that's a lot of girls allegedly willingly handing over pictures.
And yet, there are people out there who are saying that it is not the fault of the boys, they just couldn't help themselves. Apparently, when presented with a picture of a naked or partly naked girl, a boy just can't help opening a web site and collecting as many other pictures as he can and making it possible for others to see them, too. It clearly must be the fault of the person who has been humiliated and endangered.
Being foolish and immature is one thing, taking advantage of the trust of another and holding a person up for public ridicule is in a whole other category.
My understanding is that, from a legal perspective, an underage girl who sends a nude picture of herself to another person has engaged in the same misconduct as the underage boy who may or may not have solicited it, but then forwards it to a third party.
It has previously been noted that Dropbox is not a "porn site," but instead a file-sharing site with restricted access, and it is by no means clear how many people had access to it before a McLean student who was forwarded a link to the site reported it to the school 's resource officer.
No, Dropbox is not a porn site, the boys created their own site on Dropbox. A Dropbox site contains whatever the owner places on it. It isn't at all clear how many had access to the site, but anyone who did could have copied the pictures to their own computers.
And, sure, that might be true from a legal perspective, but there's a huge difference between one girl sending pictures to one person with whom she believes herself to be in a romantic relationship, and a boy collecting pictures from 52 different girls and placing them on a website that others can access with the right link. Yes, foolish girl to believe that she can trust a boy, but breaking another person's trust is far worse than being foolish. The right thing to do would be to delete them immediately, not collect them in one site and invite others to view them. These boys had to know that their actions would humiliate the girls involved and put them in possible danger.
The girls' actions hurt themselves, the boys' actions took advantage of a weakness to hurt and humiliate others.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will flat out say it. I blame the boys more than the girls if the girls did not intend for the pictures to become public. While I would prefer that my daughter not send her boyfriend naked pictures, I see that as way more acceptable in the context of a loving relationship (or what she mistakenly thinks is a loving relationship -- weren't we all in love in high school) than breaching your girlfriend's trust and circulating or posting pictures for all to see.
Please teach your kids that when they post on the internet, they have no expectation of privacy.
What about when they send something in a private email? Still no expectation of privacy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will flat out say it. I blame the boys more than the girls if the girls did not intend for the pictures to become public. While I would prefer that my daughter not send her boyfriend naked pictures, I see that as way more acceptable in the context of a loving relationship (or what she mistakenly thinks is a loving relationship -- weren't we all in love in high school) than breaching your girlfriend's trust and circulating or posting pictures for all to see.
Please teach your kids that when they post on the internet, they have no expectation of privacy.
Anonymous wrote:I will flat out say it. I blame the boys more than the girls if the girls did not intend for the pictures to become public. While I would prefer that my daughter not send her boyfriend naked pictures, I see that as way more acceptable in the context of a loving relationship (or what she mistakenly thinks is a loving relationship -- weren't we all in love in high school) than breaching your girlfriend's trust and circulating or posting pictures for all to see.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Interesting also that there is a strain of hostility toward women running through a number of the posts that are trying to minimize the actions of the boys in this case.
This. Misogyny is clearly alive and well on DCUM.
Anonymous wrote:I will flat out say it. I blame the boys more than the girls if the girls did not intend for the pictures to become public. While I would prefer that my daughter not send her boyfriend naked pictures, I see that as way more acceptable in the context of a loving relationship (or what she mistakenly thinks is a loving relationship -- weren't we all in love in high school) than breaching your girlfriend's trust and circulating or posting pictures for all to see.
Anonymous wrote:
It is totally odd the way some are trying to blame the girls who have been purposely embarrassed and placed in danger here by those that created a website using their pictures and names. Just the strangest thing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be silly. There's plenty of blame to go around for all the guilty. It's not only the girls vs. the boys.
Which one of you will now start parenting in a new way (that has obliously been lacking?)
*obviously
Anyone?
I'm holding out until you can run this thread up to 30 pages with your non-stop rambling.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't be silly. There's plenty of blame to go around for all the guilty. It's not only the girls vs. the boys.
Which one of you will now start parenting in a new way (that has obliously been lacking?)
*obviously
Anyone?