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Actually, at least one has a misunderstanding about this, or simply pretends to misunderstand. No one suggests that anything is wrong with hard work and preparation.
People are suggesting that it is inappropriate for people to "prep" kids by using materials that attempt to recreate the AAP identification tests. Prepping kids in this way makes the scores unreliable to the point that some schools are simply not using them anymore. These particular tests are not meant to be prepped for and prepping results in scores that are not useful to the schools.

These threads are only about prepping for the AAP identification tests. They are not about prepping for any other type of testing, nor are they about effective ways to teach math.

More nuaunced malarky. Now we have to have the identification committees throughout the land adjudicate the legality or ethics of preparation on the basis of an identification test. Will this be at the federal level or shall will let each state do their own thing?

What rubbish.

No rubbish, and no malarky. If you read the the OP for most of these threads, they involve the AAP identification testing. Not even terribly nuanced, just fact.

Right, and here's what FCPS says about this:

Here's a link to a FCPS document that includes an explanation of why the test was changed last year:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/FAQre2012CustomizedCogAT.pdf

See fourth paragraph, first sentence:

"FCPS staff members chose to administer the custom form of the CogAT this year after it came to our attention that some students, in previous years, had prepared for the CogAT using the exact form of the CogAT being administered in FCPS."

Anonymous wrote:I hope the kids at least are learning some reading comprehension. They could practice by reading the first post on a thread and figuring out the subject.

You are a troll. Please leave. You do not read the posts. You just say prep. No one is saying children should not prepare for life. But, we are talking about one or two specific tests that are trying to measure intelligence where the specific act of drill and practice with old tests (i.e., cheating, often called prep here) take away the ability to measure. The concern with FCPS is that from 2009-2012, the size of the AAP pool increased 50%. They think it was from people gaming/prepping. It is cheating.

My DD spends 12 hrs per day preparing for her future by school, homework, sports, and activities. That is prep. She spend some time being quizzed on vocabulary, which helps on the test. does not know which words will be on the test, so she studies all of them. That is prep, and it is encouraged.

CogAT is an attempt to measure something. Prepping invalidates the measurement. It is that simple. [code]

Who cares about 2 specific tests if you work hard and prep. Most high performing 7 year-olds and their parents don't care or worry about the 2 specific tests you are fixated on. Hard work and prep makes this all unnecessary. I do not know anyone who goes around stealing the test and memorizing the answers. Not in my neighborhood. You must live with a cabal of criminals if all around you 7 year olds are stealing the County tests and memorizing the answers. Sounds absurd to me. The solution is easy. The County should house the test under lock and key. That's what the College Board does with the SAT.