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Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

I agree with this entire post. Especially regarding the process and SB members butting in and disrupting the established process. We are paying these consultants I assume a lot of money to come up with objective, reasonable approaches. Almost all of the proposed HS boundaries in their three proposed scenarios made logical sense from an unbiased birds eye view. (ES and MS not so much, but now ES is off the table.)

But, I would add, the one rabid Lees Corner parent who sits on this thread all day and night screeching at people is not doing her neighborhood any favors. I am pretty much rooting for them to get moved at this point just to p!ss her off. The rest of the many posters can't even have a discussion without her jumping in with her crazy exaggerations and nonsense.

What makes you think this consultant knew what they were doing? Speaking from my neighborhood, they took a small portion of our elementary school boundary and took them out of the rest of their neighborhood which currently is in the elementary school. Really stupid move. So, no, I don't think these people were objective or experts.

But, people are mistaken if they think the School Board members are out of line. Perhaps, they should not have been so vocal, but the decision is THEIRS. At least, it always has been in the past. (Ask me how I know? I've been involved in three boundary discussions.) They vote on it.

And, it does not make any sense to take kids who are five minutes from the school and send them 20 to 30 minutes away. If any Centreville students are five minutes from Centreville and being sent 20 to 30 minutes away, that also does not make sense. I don't think that is the case, but, if it is, please feel free to post the details here.

You presumably like what Dixit and McDaniel are doing, so you give them flowers. No surprise there.

But your logic is flawed. No one denies that the School Board makes the final decisions about boundaries. But when they commit in advance to a process where a third-party consultant is supposed to work with Reid to come up with recommendations to provide to the School Board, and School Board members interject themselves in the middle of the process, they are making a hash of things and corrupting an agreed-upon process to set boundaries. The School Board members who didn't jump in and were prepared to let the process work as intended then feel like they have no alternative but to start weighing in as well. And it also creates the impression that Dixit and McDaniel were doing the bidding of the community members who yelled the loudest.

That's just what they did.
and Reid! Who caved to Walney Oaks with literally no discussion or analysis.

How do we know they caved? Did they?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

I agree with this entire post. Especially regarding the process and SB members butting in and disrupting the established process. We are paying these consultants I assume a lot of money to come up with objective, reasonable approaches. Almost all of the proposed HS boundaries in their three proposed scenarios made logical sense from an unbiased birds eye view. (ES and MS not so much, but now ES is off the table.)

But, I would add, the one rabid Lees Corner parent who sits on this thread all day and night screeching at people is not doing her neighborhood any favors. I am pretty much rooting for them to get moved at this point just to p!ss her off. The rest of the many posters can't even have a discussion without her jumping in with her crazy exaggerations and nonsense.

What makes you think this consultant knew what they were doing? Speaking from my neighborhood, they took a small portion of our elementary school boundary and took them out of the rest of their neighborhood which currently is in the elementary school. Really stupid move. So, no, I don't think these people were objective or experts.

But, people are mistaken if they think the School Board members are out of line. Perhaps, they should not have been so vocal, but the decision is THEIRS. At least, it always has been in the past. (Ask me how I know? I've been involved in three boundary discussions.) They vote on it.

And, it does not make any sense to take kids who are five minutes from the school and send them 20 to 30 minutes away. If any Centreville students are five minutes from Centreville and being sent 20 to 30 minutes away, that also does not make sense. I don't think that is the case, but, if it is, please feel free to post the details here.

You presumably like what Dixit and McDaniel are doing, so you give them flowers. No surprise there.

But your logic is flawed. No one denies that the School Board makes the final decisions about boundaries. But when they commit in advance to a process where a third-party consultant is supposed to work with Reid to come up with recommendations to provide to the School Board, and School Board members interject themselves in the middle of the process, they are making a hash of things and corrupting an agreed-upon process to set boundaries. The School Board members who didn't jump in and were prepared to let the process work as intended then feel like they have no alternative but to start weighing in as well. And it also creates the impression that Dixit and McDaniel were doing the bidding of the community members who yelled the loudest.

That's just what they did.
and Reid! Who caved to Walney Oaks with literally no discussion or analysis.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

I agree with this entire post. Especially regarding the process and SB members butting in and disrupting the established process. We are paying these consultants I assume a lot of money to come up with objective, reasonable approaches. Almost all of the proposed HS boundaries in their three proposed scenarios made logical sense from an unbiased birds eye view. (ES and MS not so much, but now ES is off the table.)

But, I would add, the one rabid Lees Corner parent who sits on this thread all day and night screeching at people is not doing her neighborhood any favors. I am pretty much rooting for them to get moved at this point just to p!ss her off. The rest of the many posters can't even have a discussion without her jumping in with her crazy exaggerations and nonsense.

What makes you think this consultant knew what they were doing? Speaking from my neighborhood, they took a small portion of our elementary school boundary and took them out of the rest of their neighborhood which currently is in the elementary school. Really stupid move. So, no, I don't think these people were objective or experts.

But, people are mistaken if they think the School Board members are out of line. Perhaps, they should not have been so vocal, but the decision is THEIRS. At least, it always has been in the past. (Ask me how I know? I've been involved in three boundary discussions.) They vote on it.

And, it does not make any sense to take kids who are five minutes from the school and send them 20 to 30 minutes away. If any Centreville students are five minutes from Centreville and being sent 20 to 30 minutes away, that also does not make sense. I don't think that is the case, but, if it is, please feel free to post the details here.

You presumably like what Dixit and McDaniel are doing, so you give them flowers. No surprise there.

But your logic is flawed. No one denies that the School Board makes the final decisions about boundaries. But when they commit in advance to a process where a third-party consultant is supposed to work with Reid to come up with recommendations to provide to the School Board, and School Board members interject themselves in the middle of the process, they are making a hash of things and corrupting an agreed-upon process to set boundaries. The School Board members who didn't jump in and were prepared to let the process work as intended then feel like they have no alternative but to start weighing in as well. And it also creates the impression that Dixit and McDaniel were doing the bidding of the community members who yelled the loudest.

That's just what they did.
and Reid! Who caved to Walney Oaks with literally no discussion or analysis.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

I agree with this entire post. Especially regarding the process and SB members butting in and disrupting the established process. We are paying these consultants I assume a lot of money to come up with objective, reasonable approaches. Almost all of the proposed HS boundaries in their three proposed scenarios made logical sense from an unbiased birds eye view. (ES and MS not so much, but now ES is off the table.)

But, I would add, the one rabid Lees Corner parent who sits on this thread all day and night screeching at people is not doing her neighborhood any favors. I am pretty much rooting for them to get moved at this point just to p!ss her off. The rest of the many posters can't even have a discussion without her jumping in with her crazy exaggerations and nonsense.

What makes you think this consultant knew what they were doing? Speaking from my neighborhood, they took a small portion of our elementary school boundary and took them out of the rest of their neighborhood which currently is in the elementary school. Really stupid move. So, no, I don't think these people were objective or experts.

But, people are mistaken if they think the School Board members are out of line. Perhaps, they should not have been so vocal, but the decision is THEIRS. At least, it always has been in the past. (Ask me how I know? I've been involved in three boundary discussions.) They vote on it.

And, it does not make any sense to take kids who are five minutes from the school and send them 20 to 30 minutes away. If any Centreville students are five minutes from Centreville and being sent 20 to 30 minutes away, that also does not make sense. I don't think that is the case, but, if it is, please feel free to post the details here.

You presumably like what Dixit and McDaniel are doing, so you give them flowers. No surprise there.

But your logic is flawed. No one denies that the School Board makes the final decisions about boundaries. But when they commit in advance to a process where a third-party consultant is supposed to work with Reid to come up with recommendations to provide to the School Board, and School Board members interject themselves in the middle of the process, they are making a hash of things and corrupting an agreed-upon process to set boundaries. The School Board members who didn't jump in and were prepared to let the process work as intended then feel like they have no alternative but to start weighing in as well. And it also creates the impression that Dixit and McDaniel were doing the bidding of the community members who yelled the loudest.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

I agree with this entire post. Especially regarding the process and SB members butting in and disrupting the established process. We are paying these consultants I assume a lot of money to come up with objective, reasonable approaches. Almost all of the proposed HS boundaries in their three proposed scenarios made logical sense from an unbiased birds eye view. (ES and MS not so much, but now ES is off the table.)

But, I would add, the one rabid Lees Corner parent who sits on this thread all day and night screeching at people is not doing her neighborhood any favors. I am pretty much rooting for them to get moved at this point just to p!ss her off. The rest of the many posters can't even have a discussion without her jumping in with her crazy exaggerations and nonsense.

What makes you think this consultant knew what they were doing? Speaking from my neighborhood, they took a small portion of our elementary school boundary and took them out of the rest of their neighborhood which currently is in the elementary school. Really stupid move. So, no, I don't think these people were objective or experts.

But, people are mistaken if they think the School Board members are out of line. Perhaps, they should not have been so vocal, but the decision is THEIRS. At least, it always has been in the past. (Ask me how I know? I've been involved in three boundary discussions.) They vote on it.

And, it does not make any sense to take kids who are five minutes from the school and send them 20 to 30 minutes away. If any Centreville students are five minutes from Centreville and being sent 20 to 30 minutes away, that also does not make sense. I don't think that is the case, but, if it is, please feel free to post the details here.

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious to see which Chantilly ES they go for next.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the argument that Lees Corner should move from Chantilly to Westfield. There are 2 elementary school districts that feed to Chantilly that are closer to Westfield - Brookfield and Poplar Tree. Both also border Westfield neighborhoods, which Lees Corner does not. I’m not saying it makes sense for them to move either - just like Lees Corner they have lots of walkers- but for am those saying proximity to Chantilly doesn’t matter, then why would t the elementary school districts closer to Westfield move?

Just from the actual ESes, Lees Corner is closer. That's almost certainly why the neutral consultants chose it.

Lees Corner ES to Westfield: 4 miles
Furthest Lees Corner address to Westfield (Tuckaway Drive 5.6 miles (morning commute against commuter traffic)
Brookfield to Westfield: 5 miles
Poplar Tree to Westfield: 6 miles

Chantilly HS to Westfield: 4.8 miles
Skyview to Westfield: 5.4 miles
CVHS to Westfield: 7.1 miles
Bull Run Es to Westfield: 6.2 miles
Furthest Bull Run address to Westfield (Bull Run Dr): 7.3 miles (morning commute with commuter traffic)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the argument that Lees Corner should move from Chantilly to Westfield. There are 2 elementary school districts that feed to Chantilly that are closer to Westfield - Brookfield and Poplar Tree. Both also border Westfield neighborhoods, which Lees Corner does not. I’m not saying it makes sense for them to move either - just like Lees Corner they have lots of walkers- but for am those saying proximity to Chantilly doesn’t matter, then why would t the elementary school districts closer to Westfield move?

Just from the actual ESes, Lees Corner is closer. That's almost certainly why the neutral consultants chose it.

Lees Corner ES to Westfield: 4 miles
Furthest Lees Corner address to Westfield (Tuckaway Drive 5.6 miles (morning commute against commuter traffic)
Brookfield to Westfield: 5 miles
Poplar Tree to Westfield: 6 miles

Chantilly HS to Westfield: 4.8 miles
Skyview to Westfield: 5.4 miles
CVHS to Westfield: 7.1 miles
Bull Run Es to Westfield: 6.2 miles
Furthest Bull Run address to Westfield (Bull Run Dr): 7.3 miles (morning commute with commuter traffic)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

I agree with this entire post. Especially regarding the process and SB members butting in and disrupting the established process. We are paying these consultants I assume a lot of money to come up with objective, reasonable approaches. Almost all of the proposed HS boundaries in their three proposed scenarios made logical sense from an unbiased birds eye view. (ES and MS not so much, but now ES is off the table.)

But, I would add, the one rabid Lees Corner parent who sits on this thread all day and night screeching at people is not doing her neighborhood any favors. I am pretty much rooting for them to get moved at this point just to p!ss her off. The rest of the many posters can't even have a discussion without her jumping in with her crazy exaggerations and nonsense.

What makes you think this consultant knew what they were doing? Speaking from my neighborhood, they took a small portion of our elementary school boundary and took them out of the rest of their neighborhood which currently is in the elementary school. Really stupid move. So, no, I don't think these people were objective or experts.

But, people are mistaken if they think the School Board members are out of line. Perhaps, they should not have been so vocal, but the decision is THEIRS. At least, it always has been in the past. (Ask me how I know? I've been involved in three boundary discussions.) They vote on it.

And, it does not make any sense to take kids who are five minutes from the school and send them 20 to 30 minutes away. If any Centreville students are five minutes from Centreville and being sent 20 to 30 minutes away, that also does not make sense. I don't think that is the case, but, if it is, please feel free to post the details here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there’s the merits and then there’s the process.

On the merits, you have Lees Corner close to Chantilly, but also closer to Westfield than other areas likely to get moved there. And then you have some Centreville areas that are further away from Westfield but also not as close to Centreville as Lees Corner is to Chantilly.

Unless they just plan to gut Westfield, someone has to move there if a large chunk of Westfield moves to Skyview, and it’s hard to say one area has a better argument than the other. They don’t have a clear flow chart in place that dictates the “right” result.

That’s when the process kicks in. In theory, the School Board hired a third-party consultant to make recommendations to Reid and for Reid to make recommendations to the School Board. When you have School Board members weighing in now, in the middle of the process, it looks like they are jumping the gun. And once a few members do this, the other members with potentially affected schools feel like they are stooges if they don’t also enter the fray, and we’re off to the races.

It happened during the county-wide review and now it’s happening again. I’d argue that it’s a significant enough break-down in how they should be approaching major decisions that the current School Board should be replaced next year, with the next School Board firing Reid after being sworn in. Any boundary process will be controversial, but they repeatedly take challenging situations and make them worse.

I agree with this entire post. Especially regarding the process and SB members butting in and disrupting the established process. We are paying these consultants I assume a lot of money to come up with objective, reasonable approaches. Almost all of the proposed HS boundaries in their three proposed scenarios made logical sense from an unbiased birds eye view. (ES and MS not so much, but now ES is off the table.)

But, I would add, the one rabid Lees Corner parent who sits on this thread all day and night screeching at people is not doing her neighborhood any favors. I am pretty much rooting for them to get moved at this point just to p!ss her off. The rest of the many posters can't even have a discussion without her jumping in with her crazy exaggerations and nonsense.

What makes you think this consultant knew what they were doing? Speaking from my neighborhood, they took a small portion of our elementary school boundary and took them out of the rest of their neighborhood which currently is in the elementary school. Really stupid move. So, no, I don't think these people were objective or experts.

But, people are mistaken if they think the School Board members are out of line. Perhaps, they should not have been so vocal, but the decision is THEIRS. At least, it always has been in the past. (Ask me how I know? I've been involved in three boundary discussions.) They vote on it.

And, it does not make any sense to take kids who are five minutes from the school and send them 20 to 30 minutes away. If any Centreville students are five minutes from Centreville and being sent 20 to 30 minutes away, that also does not make sense. I don't think that is the case, but, if it is, please feel free to post the details here.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the argument that Lees Corner should move from Chantilly to Westfield. There are 2 elementary school districts that feed to Chantilly that are closer to Westfield - Brookfield and Poplar Tree. Both also border Westfield neighborhoods, which Lees Corner does not. I’m not saying it makes sense for them to move either - just like Lees Corner they have lots of walkers- but for am those saying proximity to Chantilly doesn’t matter, then why would t the elementary school districts closer to Westfield move?

Furthest Lees Corner address to Westfield (Tuckaway Drive 5.6 miles