Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tend to do less and less for your community if it’s overwhelmed by immigrants. Especially if they look and act different than you.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s where my friends were nearly all first generation and parents were immigrants with accents, different cultures, religions, and more, my best friends are from families from Haiti, India, South American countries, and more. And now I work in a super diverse place. Not my personal experience. This xenophobia is a newer trend to me and seems driven by right wing media Charlie Kirk types, etc. Sorry but your narrative contradicts what I actually lived and experience.
Meanwhile, IGNORING your anecdotal data, where is the $20 BILLION lost in fraud, Minnesota???
Of course you would IGNORE the billions Trump and his cronies and families are siphoning off from taxpayers.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Argentina, and they have universal healthcare.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Israel for this unjustified war, not to mention the BILLIONS the US already gives Israel.
BTW, the leader of the fraud in MN is a white women, American born. But, I realize that pathetic people find it easier to blame those who are weaker than themselves for their lot. I believe the Nazis convinced most of the Germans to do just that.
First, this has ZERO to do with Trump.
These are people who do not respect our culture. Take the case of Ladan Mohamad Ali.
She is given money to bribe a jury but before she even tries to bribe them, she takes an 80,000 cut for herself. LOLOL!
These people are tribal. They care nothing about our country, let alone their state or community. They care about only the race of people they belong to or even their immediate family. It doesn't work here.
I have no sympathy for them. Just get out.
"Ask not what your country can do for you
Ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy
Oh how ironic that you would quote Kennedy as a MAGA.
Your ancestors were also probably tribal. The Italians sought out Italian neighborhoods, as did the Poles, etc..
People should absolutely go to to prison for committing fraud, but unlike MAGA, I don't blame an entire group of people for the actions of a few. Otherwise, we'd have to assume that MAGA are ALL violent white nationalist insurrectionists judging by the J6ers, Fuentes, et al
No other country in the world would or should put up with the multi culti abuse you think is AOK to visit upon us and it's all for you to feel good about yourself. AGAIN, where is the $20 BILLION?
First, please take a deep breath. I sense your rising blood pressure and don’t want you to have a heart attack.
Second, close your eyes and visualize your 3 favorite foods.
Are they the same foods your great (great, great, etc) grandparents who first immigrated to America?
Mine sure aren’t (Irish, Austrian, Ukrainian (Jewish), English)
I love tacos (Mexico), pizza (Italian), and chicken Tikka Masala (Indian). Oh and chicken mulligatawny soup is a close 4th which is already a mish mash of British and Indian cooking.
Multiculturalism offers us (past, present, and future) amazing things and possibilities. It’s what our country was built on.
If there are suspicions that millions or billion stolen by Somalians in MN they should be investigated. But there are also suspicions that Trump is stealing from our country. Does that mean we should kick everyone with Scottish ancestry out of the country?
Or if you think that example is too inflammatory, what about Senator Scott from FL whose company was convicted of billions of Medicare fraud. According to AI he’s of Scottish and English ancestry. Are all people from those countries fraudsters?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tend to do less and less for your community if it’s overwhelmed by immigrants. Especially if they look and act different than you.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s where my friends were nearly all first generation and parents were immigrants with accents, different cultures, religions, and more, my best friends are from families from Haiti, India, South American countries, and more. And now I work in a super diverse place. Not my personal experience. This xenophobia is a newer trend to me and seems driven by right wing media Charlie Kirk types, etc. Sorry but your narrative contradicts what I actually lived and experience.
Meanwhile, IGNORING your anecdotal data, where is the $20 BILLION lost in fraud, Minnesota???
Of course you would IGNORE the billions Trump and his cronies and families are siphoning off from taxpayers.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Argentina, and they have universal healthcare.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Israel for this unjustified war, not to mention the BILLIONS the US already gives Israel.
BTW, the leader of the fraud in MN is a white women, American born. But, I realize that pathetic people find it easier to blame those who are weaker than themselves for their lot. I believe the Nazis convinced most of the Germans to do just that.
First, this has ZERO to do with Trump.
These are people who do not respect our culture. Take the case of Ladan Mohamad Ali.
She is given money to bribe a jury but before she even tries to bribe them, she takes an 80,000 cut for herself. LOLOL!
These people are tribal. They care nothing about our country, let alone their state or community. They care about only the race of people they belong to or even their immediate family. It doesn't work here.
I have no sympathy for them. Just get out.
"Ask not what your country can do for you
Ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy
Oh how ironic that you would quote Kennedy as a MAGA.
Your ancestors were also probably tribal. The Italians sought out Italian neighborhoods, as did the Poles, etc..
People should absolutely go to to prison for committing fraud, but unlike MAGA, I don't blame an entire group of people for the actions of a few. Otherwise, we'd have to assume that MAGA are ALL violent white nationalist insurrectionists judging by the J6ers, Fuentes, et al
No other country in the world would or should put up with the multi culti abuse you think is AOK to visit upon us and it's all for you to feel good about yourself. AGAIN, where is the $20 BILLION?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tend to do less and less for your community if it’s overwhelmed by immigrants. Especially if they look and act different than you.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s where my friends were nearly all first generation and parents were immigrants with accents, different cultures, religions, and more, my best friends are from families from Haiti, India, South American countries, and more. And now I work in a super diverse place. Not my personal experience. This xenophobia is a newer trend to me and seems driven by right wing media Charlie Kirk types, etc. Sorry but your narrative contradicts what I actually lived and experience.
Meanwhile, IGNORING your anecdotal data, where is the $20 BILLION lost in fraud, Minnesota???
Of course you would IGNORE the billions Trump and his cronies and families are siphoning off from taxpayers.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Argentina, and they have universal healthcare.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Israel for this unjustified war, not to mention the BILLIONS the US already gives Israel.
BTW, the leader of the fraud in MN is a white women, American born. But, I realize that pathetic people find it easier to blame those who are weaker than themselves for their lot. I believe the Nazis convinced most of the Germans to do just that.
First, this has ZERO to do with Trump.
These are people who do not respect our culture. Take the case of Ladan Mohamad Ali.
She is given money to bribe a jury but before she even tries to bribe them, she takes an 80,000 cut for herself. LOLOL!
These people are tribal. They care nothing about our country, let alone their state or community. They care about only the race of people they belong to or even their immediate family. It doesn't work here.
I have no sympathy for them. Just get out.
"Ask not what your country can do for you
Ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. It feels like everything is falling apart and there's very little we can do to fix it. It took everyone too long to realize what was happening. I'm struggling not to resent the older generations around me who let it get this bad. I'm grieving the children I will never have because I cannot afford it and because it feels morally wrong to bring a child into this just so I can experience motherhood.
I mean this kindly:
Get a grip. Read history. Look at all of the wars, famine, disease. There is nothing new under the sun. If you want to have a kid, have one. It is no worse now than 99% of human history. It is not objectively worse to have kids now than at any other time in history except maybe the 50s but would you really want to be a woman back in the 50s?
And also with the “I can’t afford kids”. Stop being brainwashed into thinking you have to have all of your financials figured out and perfect before you have a kid. Believe me, DCUM would have judged me quite harshly for having a kid when our HHI was 45k back in 2007, with no house, a crappy old car, and not being able to afford daycare. We did it anyway, and had two. Now they are in HS. I figured out my career once the kids were school aged. We were able to buy a house and sending DC1 to college next year. It hasn’t all been perfect - they didn’t do all the fancy activities, didn’t get the fancy Disney vacations or lots of expensive toys, but I would absolutely do it again, even if it meant using welfare and food stamps and living in a tiny apartment. There is really nothing else that gives life purpose as much as having kids.
I'm probably older than you, PP, and I agree with the first PP. Daycare and college costs have exploded, and wages have not kept up with those costs.
I have one DC about to graduate undergad and one about to go to college.
We have made six figures for a while, but we lived way below our means. And it was still expensive to send the kids to daycare and save for college. We don't drive expensive cars; we don't own name brand anything. My only expensive jewelry is my engagement ring, and a not that expensive necklace/earring set DH has bought me throughout our 20 years of marriage.
I don't blame women now a days for not wanting kids one bit.
It sounds like you have the same tunnel vision then, unable to see different possibilities and ways of doing things. Neither daycare nor college are/were the norm for 99% of human existence. But few people are willing to think outside of the box or go against the grain, which is also how we got here in the first place.
I stand by my point that if you want to be a parent, stop making excuses and don’t worry about doing it the “proper” way with a SFH, daycare, college, and expensive “family” car. Don’t let other people tell you what’s important. It sucks that there isn’t really a road map for this, but it’s doable.
Eh, yes and no. As a mom to two kids who lived much of my younger years in a sh*t 90 year old fixer upper with roaches and mice (thanks hoarding neighbor!), with a one percent down payment, in a crime ridden neighborhood where I learned to tell the difference between gunshots and fireworks....
This really ignores the issue of SUBSTANTIAL.wage suppression, explosion of housing costs making living on a single income plus a kid very difficult even in a one bedroom. Oh and at least I did have a college education that afforded me the ability to pull myself to a much higher income! In today's housing market, couldn't have done it again.
+1
Growing up very poor isn’t the “oh, it will work itself out” problem that people think it is. It sets up a cascade of problems that keeps a large percentage of each generation in the same poverty area.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. It feels like everything is falling apart and there's very little we can do to fix it. It took everyone too long to realize what was happening. I'm struggling not to resent the older generations around me who let it get this bad. I'm grieving the children I will never have because I cannot afford it and because it feels morally wrong to bring a child into this just so I can experience motherhood.
I mean this kindly:
Get a grip. Read history. Look at all of the wars, famine, disease. There is nothing new under the sun. If you want to have a kid, have one. It is no worse now than 99% of human history. It is not objectively worse to have kids now than at any other time in history except maybe the 50s but would you really want to be a woman back in the 50s?
And also with the “I can’t afford kids”. Stop being brainwashed into thinking you have to have all of your financials figured out and perfect before you have a kid. Believe me, DCUM would have judged me quite harshly for having a kid when our HHI was 45k back in 2007, with no house, a crappy old car, and not being able to afford daycare. We did it anyway, and had two. Now they are in HS. I figured out my career once the kids were school aged. We were able to buy a house and sending DC1 to college next year. It hasn’t all been perfect - they didn’t do all the fancy activities, didn’t get the fancy Disney vacations or lots of expensive toys, but I would absolutely do it again, even if it meant using welfare and food stamps and living in a tiny apartment. There is really nothing else that gives life purpose as much as having kids.
I'm probably older than you, PP, and I agree with the first PP. Daycare and college costs have exploded, and wages have not kept up with those costs.
I have one DC about to graduate undergad and one about to go to college.
We have made six figures for a while, but we lived way below our means. And it was still expensive to send the kids to daycare and save for college. We don't drive expensive cars; we don't own name brand anything. My only expensive jewelry is my engagement ring, and a not that expensive necklace/earring set DH has bought me throughout our 20 years of marriage.
I don't blame women now a days for not wanting kids one bit.
It sounds like you have the same tunnel vision then, unable to see different possibilities and ways of doing things. Neither daycare nor college are/were the norm for 99% of human existence. But few people are willing to think outside of the box or go against the grain, which is also how we got here in the first place.
I stand by my point that if you want to be a parent, stop making excuses and don’t worry about doing it the “proper” way with a SFH, daycare, college, and expensive “family” car. Don’t let other people tell you what’s important. It sucks that there isn’t really a road map for this, but it’s doable.
Eh, yes and no. As a mom to two kids who lived much of my younger years in a sh*t 90 year old fixer upper with roaches and mice (thanks hoarding neighbor!), with a one percent down payment, in a crime ridden neighborhood where I learned to tell the difference between gunshots and fireworks....
This really ignores the issue of SUBSTANTIAL.wage suppression, explosion of housing costs making living on a single income plus a kid very difficult even in a one bedroom. Oh and at least I did have a college education that afforded me the ability to pull myself to a much higher income! In today's housing market, couldn't have done it again.
+1
Growing up very poor isn’t the “oh, it will work itself out” problem that people think it is. It sets up a cascade of problems that keeps a large percentage of each generation in the same poverty area.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree OP. It feels like everything is falling apart and there's very little we can do to fix it. It took everyone too long to realize what was happening. I'm struggling not to resent the older generations around me who let it get this bad. I'm grieving the children I will never have because I cannot afford it and because it feels morally wrong to bring a child into this just so I can experience motherhood.
I mean this kindly:
Get a grip. Read history. Look at all of the wars, famine, disease. There is nothing new under the sun. If you want to have a kid, have one. It is no worse now than 99% of human history. It is not objectively worse to have kids now than at any other time in history except maybe the 50s but would you really want to be a woman back in the 50s?
And also with the “I can’t afford kids”. Stop being brainwashed into thinking you have to have all of your financials figured out and perfect before you have a kid. Believe me, DCUM would have judged me quite harshly for having a kid when our HHI was 45k back in 2007, with no house, a crappy old car, and not being able to afford daycare. We did it anyway, and had two. Now they are in HS. I figured out my career once the kids were school aged. We were able to buy a house and sending DC1 to college next year. It hasn’t all been perfect - they didn’t do all the fancy activities, didn’t get the fancy Disney vacations or lots of expensive toys, but I would absolutely do it again, even if it meant using welfare and food stamps and living in a tiny apartment. There is really nothing else that gives life purpose as much as having kids.
I'm probably older than you, PP, and I agree with the first PP. Daycare and college costs have exploded, and wages have not kept up with those costs.
I have one DC about to graduate undergad and one about to go to college.
We have made six figures for a while, but we lived way below our means. And it was still expensive to send the kids to daycare and save for college. We don't drive expensive cars; we don't own name brand anything. My only expensive jewelry is my engagement ring, and a not that expensive necklace/earring set DH has bought me throughout our 20 years of marriage.
I don't blame women now a days for not wanting kids one bit.
It sounds like you have the same tunnel vision then, unable to see different possibilities and ways of doing things. Neither daycare nor college are/were the norm for 99% of human existence. But few people are willing to think outside of the box or go against the grain, which is also how we got here in the first place.
I stand by my point that if you want to be a parent, stop making excuses and don’t worry about doing it the “proper” way with a SFH, daycare, college, and expensive “family” car. Don’t let other people tell you what’s important. It sucks that there isn’t really a road map for this, but it’s doable.
Eh, yes and no. As a mom to two kids who lived much of my younger years in a sh*t 90 year old fixer upper with roaches and mice (thanks hoarding neighbor!), with a one percent down payment, in a crime ridden neighborhood where I learned to tell the difference between gunshots and fireworks....
This really ignores the issue of SUBSTANTIAL.wage suppression, explosion of housing costs making living on a single income plus a kid very difficult even in a one bedroom. Oh and at least I did have a college education that afforded me the ability to pull myself to a much higher income! In today's housing market, couldn't have done it again.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:$20 billion is a million dollars 20,000 times. WTF!
That's just one state. Where did that money go?
Suitcases of money being sent to Somalia every day?
ENOUGH!!!
Trump just asked for another $200B for Operation Epstein Fury.
That's $20B 10 times!
ENOUGH!!!!!
National defense. A legitimate expense.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tend to do less and less for your community if it’s overwhelmed by immigrants. Especially if they look and act different than you.
That's only true for racist people.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tend to do less and less for your community if it’s overwhelmed by immigrants. Especially if they look and act different than you.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s where my friends were nearly all first generation and parents were immigrants with accents, different cultures, religions, and more, my best friends are from families from Haiti, India, South American countries, and more. And now I work in a super diverse place. Not my personal experience. This xenophobia is a newer trend to me and seems driven by right wing media Charlie Kirk types, etc. Sorry but your narrative contradicts what I actually lived and experience.
Meanwhile, IGNORING your anecdotal data, where is the $20 BILLION lost in fraud, Minnesota???
Of course you would IGNORE the billions Trump and his cronies and families are siphoning off from taxpayers.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Argentina, and they have universal healthcare.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Israel for this unjustified war, not to mention the BILLIONS the US already gives Israel.
BTW, the leader of the fraud in MN is a white women, American born. But, I realize that pathetic people find it easier to blame those who are weaker than themselves for their lot. I believe the Nazis convinced most of the Germans to do just that.
First, this has ZERO to do with Trump.
These are people who do not respect our culture. Take the case of Ladan Mohamad Ali.
She is given money to bribe a jury but before she even tries to bribe them, she takes an 80,000 cut for herself. LOLOL!
These people are tribal. They care nothing about our country, let alone their state or community. They care about only the race of people they belong to or even their immediate family. It doesn't work here.
I have no sympathy for them. Just get out.
"Ask not what your country can do for you
Ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy
Anonymous wrote:The Trump family are recent immigrants, so yes I agree immigrants are the problem.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:$20 billion is a million dollars 20,000 times. WTF!
That's just one state. Where did that money go?
Suitcases of money being sent to Somalia every day?
ENOUGH!!!
I agree. Enough with giving Israel billions of dollars. It's a scam. Kushner committed fraud so that Israel could get this money.
This has nothing to do with Kushner or Trump.
Stop excusing it. Where is that money?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You tend to do less and less for your community if it’s overwhelmed by immigrants. Especially if they look and act different than you.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s where my friends were nearly all first generation and parents were immigrants with accents, different cultures, religions, and more, my best friends are from families from Haiti, India, South American countries, and more. And now I work in a super diverse place. Not my personal experience. This xenophobia is a newer trend to me and seems driven by right wing media Charlie Kirk types, etc. Sorry but your narrative contradicts what I actually lived and experience.
Meanwhile, IGNORING your anecdotal data, where is the $20 BILLION lost in fraud, Minnesota???
Of course you would IGNORE the billions Trump and his cronies and families are siphoning off from taxpayers.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Argentina, and they have universal healthcare.
Trump gave BILLIONS to Israel for this unjustified war, not to mention the BILLIONS the US already gives Israel.
BTW, the leader of the fraud in MN is a white women, American born. But, I realize that pathetic people find it easier to blame those who are weaker than themselves for their lot. I believe the Nazis convinced most of the Germans to do just that.
First, this has ZERO to do with Trump.
These are people who do not respect our culture. Take the case of Ladan Mohamad Ali.
She is given money to bribe a jury but before she even tries to bribe them, she takes an 80,000 cut for herself. LOLOL!
These people are tribal. They care nothing about our country, let alone their state or community. They care about only the race of people they belong to or even their immediate family. It doesn't work here.
I have no sympathy for them. Just get out.
"Ask not what your country can do for you
Ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy