Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.
You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.
You really don’t know enough to conclude that. You just don’t want to believe the victim.
I think it’s pretty clear. And no, I don’t think an abstraction like “believe victims” should be used to assess situations like this. It sounds like they believed the victim to an appropriate degree (ie open an investigation) and found nothing credible. Purported victims don’t have some kind of never-ending presumption of credibility in all cases.
I agree with that, but a the same time the school doesn’t seem to have much empathy with the incident or intentions to reinforce protocol to prevent a similar scenario in the future. Family is wrong school is right.
The incident being a false allegation? Yes I imagine the school is now going to install cameras to protect itself.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.
You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.
You really don’t know enough to conclude that. You just don’t want to believe the victim.
I think it’s pretty clear. And no, I don’t think an abstraction like “believe victims” should be used to assess situations like this. It sounds like they believed the victim to an appropriate degree (ie open an investigation) and found nothing credible. Purported victims don’t have some kind of never-ending presumption of credibility in all cases.
I agree with that, but a the same time the school doesn’t seem to have much empathy with the incident or intentions to reinforce protocol to prevent a similar scenario in the future. Family is wrong school is right.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.
You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.
You really don’t know enough to conclude that. You just don’t want to believe the victim.
I think it’s pretty clear. And no, I don’t think an abstraction like “believe victims” should be used to assess situations like this. It sounds like they believed the victim to an appropriate degree (ie open an investigation) and found nothing credible. Purported victims don’t have some kind of never-ending presumption of credibility in all cases.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.
You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.
You really don’t know enough to conclude that. You just don’t want to believe the victim.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.
You have it backwards. If there were any hint of this actually having happened the school would have paid (its insurance actually) asap. The blunt fact is that this attack was fabricated by the child and then magnified by the parent/s. There are so many examples of this (Washington Hebrew for one). The rape never happened - this is obvious.
Anonymous wrote:If I were a GDS parent I would support the school in denying any wrongdoing in order to h avoid any liability and avoid paying the family compensation for the incident. Specially if there is no hard evidence.
Anonymous wrote:Is the head of school going to resign? What about the pattern of kids getting ambushed in the bathroom?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would be inclined to believe a huge range of abuse and sexual assault stories in middle school, but this one seems very implausible.
1) That they were able to mask their identities. It's a small school. Did they change clothes?
2) I could see an SA happening as part of hazing or something like that, but then there's no way other students wouldn't have known about it on some level, if not the details
3) Even if I could stretch to believe one very clever, secretive, deviant child predator...two? Who found each other and planned this and managed to keep their mouths shut for years, including during an investigation?
I'm not saying nothing bad happened to this kid, and I want them to be supported, but I seriously doubt this tale.
The more I've thought about this scenario, the more I've begun to agree with PP's perspective.
Anonymous wrote:I would be inclined to believe a huge range of abuse and sexual assault stories in middle school, but this one seems very implausible.
1) That they were able to mask their identities. It's a small school. Did they change clothes?
2) I could see an SA happening as part of hazing or something like that, but then there's no way other students wouldn't have known about it on some level, if not the details
3) Even if I could stretch to believe one very clever, secretive, deviant child predator...two? Who found each other and planned this and managed to keep their mouths shut for years, including during an investigation?
I'm not saying nothing bad happened to this kid, and I want them to be supported, but I seriously doubt this tale.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“To be clear, according to the MPD, the case was thoroughly investigated and there is no evidence to substantiate the allegations put forth by the former family.”
Shameful and a disgrace. MPD is notorious for not believing survivors of violence. I hope this gets the attention of the Mayor and the city. Children don’t make this stuff up. My thoughts are with the family for their brave decision to come forward in a very public way.
Completely agree.
Someone here is lying. The family says that MPD found the child's allegations to be credible; GDS says they did not. So which is it? That part should be easy to discern and should be made public.
Well, the parents said this, and then the school responds publicly -- "Though we cooperated and were interviewed by a third party investigator hired by GDS, they have not shared the investigative report with us."
Anonymous wrote:I would imagine that the school needs to have a reason for expelling a student and allegations of rape, that did not have enough evidence to make an arrest, is not going to fly. The law suit threat is real.
I am surprised that the kids that were investigated are still there, I would think the families would want to leave and the school would be happy to let them go. But maybe it is hard to find a school with the investigation shadow.