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Anonymous wrote:It is INSANE that this slipped past Yale admissions. Their AO for North Dakota is some Yale kid , class of 2024. Basically green with no experience. And the girl took a gap year when she didn't get into an Ivy the first time around? There are so many holes in this story - think of all the NYC, DC/VA kids who KILL themselves to get in, meanwhile this grifter forges a bunch of paperwork and is submitted with no issues? Why wouldn't the AO have ties to North Dakota high schools and vet the minimal number of ND applicants to Yale? Talk to the guidance counselors?

The roommate is also giving narc, but that's a different issue.

This is why you can't hire 23 yo AO and expect them to do anything. Lazy lazy lazy.
Not related, but that kid is a tribal member and also in charge of native recruitment.
I'd imagine a lot of "fraud" there too.

Ivies claim to have many layers to asses a student and all that holistic shit, how can they blame one new hire for all of this?

Anonymous wrote:Roommate did the school and other students a great service by spotting a psychopath and doing the detective work needed to get her out of there. Who knows what a psycho would do. That wasn’t a safe situation for the other students around her.

This shouldn't be a freshman's responsibility and they shouldn't have been exposed to this.

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Anonymous wrote:Every one of these hyper competitive schools needs to do multiple interviews and character tests on applicants because they attract the sociopaths then arm them with these degrees. They do just as much harm as good.

100%. Mine attend T10s unhooked and there have been a small number of obvious repetitive cheaters. They cant hang with the other kids and get destroyed on the in-person long answer exam curves, can't add intelligently to seminars, can't get good faculty recs. It catches up with most of them in one way or another. UVA has students who likely got in bc they cheated btw not unique to elite schools. It is a real shame spots go to these kids.

Indeed it does catch up with the cheaters. One of the kids I mentioned cheated to get into MIT could never get an internship and now has no job.

Reminds me of a decade or so ago when MIT’s own admissions head — she’s white, mind you — was outed as a fraud

Yup! No wonder they accept these types.

I think Harvard had one recently. He was found out and is at Columbia. I forget the exact details of what happened. And long ago, another male faked tons of stuff to get into Harvard — there are stories that come up in Google.

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Anonymous wrote:Every one of these hyper competitive schools needs to do multiple interviews and character tests on applicants because they attract the sociopaths then arm them with these degrees. They do just as much harm as good.

100%. Mine attend T10s unhooked and there have been a small number of obvious repetitive cheaters. They cant hang with the other kids and get destroyed on the in-person long answer exam curves, can't add intelligently to seminars, can't get good faculty recs. It catches up with most of them in one way or another. UVA has students who likely got in bc they cheated btw not unique to elite schools. It is a real shame spots go to these kids.

Indeed it does catch up with the cheaters. One of the kids I mentioned cheated to get into MIT could never get an internship and now has no job.

Reminds me of a decade or so ago when MIT’s own admissions head — she’s white, mind you — was outed as a fraud

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Anonymous wrote:Every one of these hyper competitive schools needs to do multiple interviews and character tests on applicants because they attract the sociopaths then arm them with these degrees. They do just as much harm as good.

100%. Mine attend T10s unhooked and there have been a small number of obvious repetitive cheaters. They cant hang with the other kids and get destroyed on the in-person long answer exam curves, can't add intelligently to seminars, can't get good faculty recs. It catches up with most of them in one way or another. UVA has students who likely got in bc they cheated btw not unique to elite schools. It is a real shame spots go to these kids.

Indeed it does catch up with the cheaters. One of the kids I mentioned cheated to get into MIT could never get an internship and now has no job.

Is it illegal to forge transcripts and letters of recommendation, etc? Just wondering it this is a criminal offense? I am not in the legal field but curious if there are any legal ramifications for this kid?

Anonymous wrote:She legally changed her name, wasn't a fake name.

It wasn’t the name her airline ticket was under (which is what made the roommate suspicious), so it is t the name she has legal ID for and therefore is t connected to her SSN, either.

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Anonymous wrote:Yale Dean Lewis confirmed they will have a "new verification process" this year for applicants.

Oh, I bet they do.

So embarrassing.

I remember seeing online that one of the southern LAC's (rhodes maybe) had an admissions committee that would travel personally to schools in the region that were "admitting a student to our school for the FIRST TIME EVER!" Cute pics on Facebook of happy excited kids and teachers and principals.

Thinking how delightful it would have been if the Yale ad com folks had turned up at the high school in North Dakota to congratulate them for having the first ever student admitted to Yale, and then asking what classroom she was in so they could track her down and give her a balloon and her admittance letter in person. When they make the Made for TV movie, they should include a scene like that. It would be too funny!

She legally changed her name, wasn't a fake name.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the article linked previously, her plan going forward is to apply somewhere new.
Gotta admire her commitment here. I look forward to her next ruse.
Btw the Netflix series practically writes itself.

How is she going to get a new SSN for her second application?

Since she applied under a fake name, I assume she doesn’t give an SSN.

You don't supply a SSN for Common App unless you need aid.

Yes, that was my point. SSN is not required, and since she used a fake name I assume she didn’t provide an SSN that would give away the game.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the article linked previously, her plan going forward is to apply somewhere new.
Gotta admire her commitment here. I look forward to her next ruse.
Btw the Netflix series practically writes itself.

How is she going to get a new SSN for her second application?

Since she applied under a fake name, I assume she doesn’t give an SSN.

You don't supply a SSN for Common App unless you need aid.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the article linked previously, her plan going forward is to apply somewhere new.
Gotta admire her commitment here. I look forward to her next ruse.
Btw the Netflix series practically writes itself.

How is she going to get a new SSN for her second application?

Since she applied under a fake name, I assume she doesn’t give an SSN.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this makes be appreciate the optional video in the Brown app. My son had some (real) achievements that we worried sounded sort of made up, but the video allowed him to show him doing what he said he did. I mean, I'm sure wealthy parents find ways to manipulate the video to some extent. But this lets kids give video proof of doing thing things they claim to have done, in the spaces they claimed they happened, with the attendance they claim showed up. A lot of the fake charities couldn't be backed up with video showing them out doing real work with lots of other people.

The fake charities would be easy to verify if schools required reports on where the income came from (many are just one big check from the parents) and how many people they helped.

I know a kid who got into Yale and their non-profit helped literally 2 kids over a 15 year span.

So the claim was that this kid started a nonprofit when they were 3?

No. Kid is now out of college. To be more precise, at the time the kid applied to college, the non profit had been active 8 years and helped one kid. One more benefited while the kid was still at college and his parents continued I run it.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the article linked previously, her plan going forward is to apply somewhere new.
Gotta admire her commitment here. I look forward to her next ruse.
Btw the Netflix series practically writes itself.

How is she going to get a new SSN for her second application?

Only necessary if she's applying for financial aid.

Anonymous wrote:According to the article linked previously, her plan going forward is to apply somewhere new.
Gotta admire her commitment here. I look forward to her next ruse.
Btw the Netflix series practically writes itself.

How is she going to get a new SSN for her second application?