Anonymous wrote:When did these kids take the psat?

Last October.

When did these kids take the psat?

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Anonymous wrote:Holton confirmed highest number of all independent schools in the region this year.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1ZhRHKDs49/

That's great, but TJ (the public VA magnet that is free of charge to those accepted based on merit) has 100+.

Already discussed to death in the first 14 pages of this thread.

The unusually strong year for NMSF at Holton has already been discussed to death as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Holton confirmed highest number of all independent schools in the region this year.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1ZhRHKDs49/

That's great, but TJ (the public VA magnet that is free of charge to those accepted based on merit) has 100+.

Already discussed to death in the first 14 pages of this thread.

List is here -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eH4WYg3mc8FIb9IhZGqvbIbcVIjXziJF/view?pli=1

Anonymous wrote:Holton confirmed highest number of all independent schools in the region this year.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1ZhRHKDs49/

That's great, but TJ (the public VA magnet that is free of charge to those accepted based on merit) has 100+.

Anonymous wrote:Holton confirmed highest number of all independent schools in the region this year.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1ZhRHKDs49/

Indeed. Even if some of the girls didn’t show up for the pictures. (There are more than 10 NMSFs)

Holton confirmed highest number of all independent schools in the region this year.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1ZhRHKDs49/

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Anonymous wrote:Top 5 in VA public (TJ, Oakton, Langley, McLean, Marshall) absolutely trounced top 5 in VA private (Potomac, Basis, Flint Hill, Madeira, SSSAS).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xCdjpoXII9oTmu_hWYFqeWl5XWmTblSu/view?pli=1

You know how to compare ratios, right? Apart from TJ, your statement doesn’t hold when considering the number of NMSF as a proportion of the graduating class.

Agree. This was a dumb comment when you look at overall numbers of kids in each school. Have to look at the denominator.

You also have to look at student demographics. Some public schools have 30-80% of their students receiving free lunches because their family incomes are so low. Some have substantial shares of students who are English Language learners. All have students with disabilities that most private schools would automatically exclude. So to say "let's look at the denominator" when the denominator of private schools is primarily wealthy and children of the highly educated, is not the right metric either.

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Anonymous wrote:Top 5 in VA public (TJ, Oakton, Langley, McLean, Marshall) absolutely trounced top 5 in VA private (Potomac, Basis, Flint Hill, Madeira, SSSAS).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xCdjpoXII9oTmu_hWYFqeWl5XWmTblSu/view?pli=1

You know how to compare ratios, right? Apart from TJ, your statement doesn’t hold when considering the number of NMSF as a proportion of the graduating class.

Agree. This was a dumb comment when you look at overall numbers of kids in each school. Have to look at the denominator.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top 5 in VA public (TJ, Oakton, Langley, McLean, Marshall) absolutely trounced top 5 in VA private (Potomac, Basis, Flint Hill, Madeira, SSSAS).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xCdjpoXII9oTmu_hWYFqeWl5XWmTblSu/view?pli=1

That just isn't the case. Just for two random examples, Oakton has an enormous senior class of 690. Potomac has a senior class of 120. That means, 3.6% of the Oakton class got NMSF compared to 7.5% of the Potomac class.

Compared to about 25% of the TJ class.

Basis is also 25% of the class.

Even assuming there is a positive correlation (which could mean anywhere from R=.01 to R=1), what makes you think that should mean the progeny of parents with high levels of academic attainment should regularly be achieving top 1 percent standardized testing outcomes, especially when Potomac is admitting most of the rich kids when they're not even 10 years old?

Anonymous wrote:Nice try, but Potomac charging tuition isn't nearly as relevant to NMSF outcomes as the profile of students who TJ is admitting.

Having a school full of rich kids who are progeny of parents who presumably have high levels of academic attainment isn't correlated with performance outcomes? Um, no...you may want to look at some research on this.

Nice try, but Potomac charging tuition isn't nearly as relevant to NMSF outcomes as the profile of students who TJ is admitting.

Anonymous wrote:Potomac is admitting most of its students well before 9th grade and often for non-academic reasons. So not apples to apples with TJ.

Potomac charges its students 50K+ per year, so yes, they're not apples to apples with TJ who takes kids who have significantly less resources and privilege.