Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:19     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

There are a few neighborhoods that make sense to move to KAA, but then other neighborhoods would of course need to be added as well.

The neighborhoods that make the most sense to send include: Discovery, Chantilly Highlands, Franklin Farm west of Fairfax County Parkway, Highland Mews, Floris Downs, and Emerald Chase (including the part of Bradley Farm that's surrounded by Emerald Chase). There's also a neighborhood on Centreville Road between McLearen and West Ox. It starts with an S.

Of course more neighborhoods would need to be added. I just think the neighborhoods listed above should be obvious ones to send to KAA.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:13     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

They spent an hour talking about how to name the school. Do they really think that is the key element in this process? Talk about cart before horse.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 17:08     Subject: FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Anonymous wrote:Westfield should be the location of the Aviation Program after they move the logical ES to KAA.


+1

They could easily open it with 9th and 10th grade without redoing it.
They could use the additional buildings to adapt if the main building is not sufficient to do so.

They would not need all the money up front, but could continue adapting over the following year.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 15:35     Subject: FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Westfield should be the location of the Aviation Program after they move the logical ES to KAA.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 14:07     Subject: FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Anonymous wrote:Ricardy Anderson referenced start time scenarios the board received in a Friday Letter. Are these letters publicly available?


No
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 14:05     Subject: FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is the work session going to be live streamed?


Of course. They always are. Start with the FCPS website for this type of basic question. The info is all there.


I watch frequently on YouTube, but didn’t see a link yet, which is why I asked.

And I don’t think they’ve historically been streamed.


Sheesh, way to double down, Yes, they have been streamed live on their website and YouTube and broadcast on channel 99 and recorded for on demand. You don’t need a separate link for each meeting. https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/leadership/school-board/school-board-meetings


🥸 You seem like you have tons and tons of friends.


And you seem like you need others to explain basic things to you - your friends must get tired of guiding you.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 14:02     Subject: FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Ricardy Anderson referenced start time scenarios the board received in a Friday Letter. Are these letters publicly available?
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 13:53     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Anonymous wrote:
You're making up an "accusation" that hasn't been lodged to try and paper over the fact that you think getting rezoned to KAA will get you out of a school you don't want to attend, even if that school has capacity or has been the beneficiary of major FCPS investment. It's absolutely obscene that neither you nor FCPS staff has shared any business case for why this impulse buy is a cost-efficient use of scarce FCPS capital resources.

For what it's worth, however, you are betting on the demographics of the new school being acceptable, because some of you are the same folks who threw a fit when they were talking about a new school near Hutchison ES in Herndon. A school at that site also would have closer than some of your current schools, but you fought it tooth and nail because you knew both Hutchison and Coates would feed into a school at that site. Swap Hutchison with Fox Mill or Crossfield, and you're ready to sign up.


The school has been purchased.

Your Hutchison argument is a very big fail. Have you been there? How would these schools access it? All the traffic going toward the DTR and hanging a left at where Kohl's was. All the traffic coming from one direction at the same time. It would have backed up to the DTR and competed with morning Metro traffic. It was a terrible site--and they knew it and dropped it. The only reason they ever recommended it is because they couldn't find a good site. And, that was because they gave away the KAA site because of political pressure from above.

But, you know this.

And, I am not districted to Westfield. Hutchison would not have been closer than our current high school.


The Hutchinson site would have been a disaster. We had friends who lived in that neighborhood and the road would have been massively overwhelmed by HS traffic. I also believe that the site was not big enough for sports fields and the like. And it would have been a high FARMs school; there would not have been a way to work the boundaries that would have had it anything but a high FARMs school. A high FARMs school with no field space would have been a bad optic, so that wasn't going to happen.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 13:38     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Anonymous wrote:
You're making up an "accusation" that hasn't been lodged to try and paper over the fact that you think getting rezoned to KAA will get you out of a school you don't want to attend, even if that school has capacity or has been the beneficiary of major FCPS investment. It's absolutely obscene that neither you nor FCPS staff has shared any business case for why this impulse buy is a cost-efficient use of scarce FCPS capital resources.

For what it's worth, however, you are betting on the demographics of the new school being acceptable, because some of you are the same folks who threw a fit when they were talking about a new school near Hutchison ES in Herndon. A school at that site also would have closer than some of your current schools, but you fought it tooth and nail because you knew both Hutchison and Coates would feed into a school at that site. Swap Hutchison with Fox Mill or Crossfield, and you're ready to sign up.


The school has been purchased.

Your Hutchison argument is a very big fail. Have you been there? How would these schools access it? All the traffic going toward the DTR and hanging a left at where Kohl's was. All the traffic coming from one direction at the same time. It would have backed up to the DTR and competed with morning Metro traffic. It was a terrible site--and they knew it and dropped it. The only reason they ever recommended it is because they couldn't find a good site. And, that was because they gave away the KAA site because of political pressure from above.

But, you know this.

And, I am not districted to Westfield. Hutchison would not have been closer than our current high school.


Adding a larger public HS at the KAA site with more activities is going to increase traffic off both Route 28 and Centreville Road significantly at times when people are trying to get places. Schools come with traffic.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 13:34     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's not really relevant, but the FARMS rates for both Floris and McNair Upper are lower than Westfield. Only Coates is higher, and part of Coates goes to Herndon.


McNair is 29 vs Westfield 31. Coates is at over 5 FARMS.
Floris is lower, but one of the wealthier portions of Floris goes to South Lakes. A good portion of Floris that goes to Westfield is from multi-family housing. There are several areas that are single family--but not large neighborhoods.

Since it seems to be the accusation that it is wealthy people that want out of Westfield, you are very, very mistaken. It has also been implied that the people at KAA will be an elite population. No. It will be a very diverse population. Isn't that what FCPS wants? It would have a nice mix--but definitely not a wealthy--nor an impoverished school.

And, FWIW, the areas from Coates, Floris, and McNair have a much, much higher percentage of English language learners.

And, again, this area is not connected to any other Westfield neighborhoods.


You're making up an "accusation" that hasn't been lodged to try and paper over the fact that you think getting rezoned to KAA will get you out of a school you don't want to attend, even if that school has capacity or has been the beneficiary of major FCPS investment. It's absolutely obscene that neither you nor FCPS staff has shared any business case for why this impulse buy is a cost-efficient use of scarce FCPS capital resources.

For what it's worth, however, you are betting on the demographics of the new school being acceptable, because some of you are the same folks who threw a fit when they were talking about a new school near Hutchison ES in Herndon. A school at that site also would have closer than some of your current schools, but you fought it tooth and nail because you knew both Hutchison and Coates would feed into a school at that site. Swap Hutchison with Fox Mill or Crossfield, and you're ready to sign up.

The issue around connectivity to other Westfield neighborhoods is BS. The part of Floris that got rezoned to South Lakes in 2008 wanted to stay at Westfield at the time because they didn't want IB, and no one talked about it being separated from other Westfield neighborhoods.


What exactly would you call "unacceptable demographics"? I would expect the demographics of the school to reflect the demographics or the surrounding neighborhoods. It's not that complicated. I think the purchase was the only smart thing the school board has done in recent years, as a high school in that area has been desperately needed for over a decade and it was not feasible to get enough funding to build one from scratch. I'm not sure what the beef is tbh.


It's odd to claim the need was desperate when, as of January 2025, there was no plan to start construction on any new HS in western Fairfax prior to 2034. So you must think that the same folks (or folks from the same party) who made a really smart decision to buy KAA were also incredibly negligent.

When there truly is a compelling need, they can and do act more quickly - that's how they got Bailey's Upper ES built in less than two years when there was acute overcrowding.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 13:34     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's not really relevant, but the FARMS rates for both Floris and McNair Upper are lower than Westfield. Only Coates is higher, and part of Coates goes to Herndon.


McNair is 29 vs Westfield 31. Coates is at over 5 FARMS.
Floris is lower, but one of the wealthier portions of Floris goes to South Lakes. A good portion of Floris that goes to Westfield is from multi-family housing. There are several areas that are single family--but not large neighborhoods.

Since it seems to be the accusation that it is wealthy people that want out of Westfield, you are very, very mistaken. It has also been implied that the people at KAA will be an elite population. No. It will be a very diverse population. Isn't that what FCPS wants? It would have a nice mix--but definitely not a wealthy--nor an impoverished school.

And, FWIW, the areas from Coates, Floris, and McNair have a much, much higher percentage of English language learners.

And, again, this area is not connected to any other Westfield neighborhoods.


You're making up an "accusation" that hasn't been lodged to try and paper over the fact that you think getting rezoned to KAA will get you out of a school you don't want to attend, even if that school has capacity or has been the beneficiary of major FCPS investment. It's absolutely obscene that neither you nor FCPS staff has shared any business case for why this impulse buy is a cost-efficient use of scarce FCPS capital resources.

For what it's worth, however, you are betting on the demographics of the new school being acceptable, because some of you are the same folks who threw a fit when they were talking about a new school near Hutchison ES in Herndon. A school at that site also would have closer than some of your current schools, but you fought it tooth and nail because you knew both Hutchison and Coates would feed into a school at that site. Swap Hutchison with Fox Mill or Crossfield, and you're ready to sign up.

The issue around connectivity to other Westfield neighborhoods is BS. The part of Floris that got rezoned to South Lakes in 2008 wanted to stay at Westfield at the time because they didn't want IB, and no one talked about it being separated from other Westfield neighborhoods.


No one wanted to move to SLHS when they were. A good number of the people at SLHS who were moved there want to move to KAA or would be happy to be rezoned back to Oakton. Lots of people don't like IB. I am growing more convinced that Fox Mill won't be moved because they want to prevent the FARMs numbers from increasing at SLHS and losing SLHS and Floris to KAA would decrease the number of students available to take IB classes. SLHS doesn't have enough interest to offer many STEM IB classes at the HL, moving Floris kids alone will decrease the IB population. Fox Mill would decimate the numbers.



Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 13:30     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It's not really relevant, but the FARMS rates for both Floris and McNair Upper are lower than Westfield. Only Coates is higher, and part of Coates goes to Herndon.


McNair is 29 vs Westfield 31. Coates is at over 5 FARMS.
Floris is lower, but one of the wealthier portions of Floris goes to South Lakes. A good portion of Floris that goes to Westfield is from multi-family housing. There are several areas that are single family--but not large neighborhoods.

Since it seems to be the accusation that it is wealthy people that want out of Westfield, you are very, very mistaken. It has also been implied that the people at KAA will be an elite population. No. It will be a very diverse population. Isn't that what FCPS wants? It would have a nice mix--but definitely not a wealthy--nor an impoverished school.

And, FWIW, the areas from Coates, Floris, and McNair have a much, much higher percentage of English language learners.

And, again, this area is not connected to any other Westfield neighborhoods.


You're making up an "accusation" that hasn't been lodged to try and paper over the fact that you think getting rezoned to KAA will get you out of a school you don't want to attend, even if that school has capacity or has been the beneficiary of major FCPS investment. It's absolutely obscene that neither you nor FCPS staff has shared any business case for why this impulse buy is a cost-efficient use of scarce FCPS capital resources.

For what it's worth, however, you are betting on the demographics of the new school being acceptable, because some of you are the same folks who threw a fit when they were talking about a new school near Hutchison ES in Herndon. A school at that site also would have closer than some of your current schools, but you fought it tooth and nail because you knew both Hutchison and Coates would feed into a school at that site. Swap Hutchison with Fox Mill or Crossfield, and you're ready to sign up.

The issue around connectivity to other Westfield neighborhoods is BS. The part of Floris that got rezoned to South Lakes in 2008 wanted to stay at Westfield at the time because they didn't want IB, and no one talked about it being separated from other Westfield neighborhoods.


What exactly would you call "unacceptable demographics"? I would expect the demographics of the school to reflect the demographics or the surrounding neighborhoods. It's not that complicated. I think the purchase was the only smart thing the school board has done in recent years, as a high school in that area has been desperately needed for over a decade and it was not feasible to get enough funding to build one from scratch. I'm not sure what the beef is tbh.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 13:29     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

You're making up an "accusation" that hasn't been lodged to try and paper over the fact that you think getting rezoned to KAA will get you out of a school you don't want to attend, even if that school has capacity or has been the beneficiary of major FCPS investment. It's absolutely obscene that neither you nor FCPS staff has shared any business case for why this impulse buy is a cost-efficient use of scarce FCPS capital resources.

For what it's worth, however, you are betting on the demographics of the new school being acceptable, because some of you are the same folks who threw a fit when they were talking about a new school near Hutchison ES in Herndon. A school at that site also would have closer than some of your current schools, but you fought it tooth and nail because you knew both Hutchison and Coates would feed into a school at that site. Swap Hutchison with Fox Mill or Crossfield, and you're ready to sign up.


The school has been purchased.

Your Hutchison argument is a very big fail. Have you been there? How would these schools access it? All the traffic going toward the DTR and hanging a left at where Kohl's was. All the traffic coming from one direction at the same time. It would have backed up to the DTR and competed with morning Metro traffic. It was a terrible site--and they knew it and dropped it. The only reason they ever recommended it is because they couldn't find a good site. And, that was because they gave away the KAA site because of political pressure from above.

But, you know this.

And, I am not districted to Westfield. Hutchison would not have been closer than our current high school.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 13:19     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

Anonymous wrote:
It's not really relevant, but the FARMS rates for both Floris and McNair Upper are lower than Westfield. Only Coates is higher, and part of Coates goes to Herndon.


McNair is 29 vs Westfield 31. Coates is at over 5 FARMS.
Floris is lower, but one of the wealthier portions of Floris goes to South Lakes. A good portion of Floris that goes to Westfield is from multi-family housing. There are several areas that are single family--but not large neighborhoods.

Since it seems to be the accusation that it is wealthy people that want out of Westfield, you are very, very mistaken. It has also been implied that the people at KAA will be an elite population. No. It will be a very diverse population. Isn't that what FCPS wants? It would have a nice mix--but definitely not a wealthy--nor an impoverished school.

And, FWIW, the areas from Coates, Floris, and McNair have a much, much higher percentage of English language learners.

And, again, this area is not connected to any other Westfield neighborhoods.


You're making up an "accusation" that hasn't been lodged to try and paper over the fact that you think getting rezoned to KAA will get you out of a school you don't want to attend, even if that school has capacity or has been the beneficiary of major FCPS investment. It's absolutely obscene that neither you nor FCPS staff has shared any business case for why this impulse buy is a cost-efficient use of scarce FCPS capital resources.

For what it's worth, however, you are betting on the demographics of the new school being acceptable, because some of you are the same folks who threw a fit when they were talking about a new school near Hutchison ES in Herndon. A school at that site also would have closer than some of your current schools, but you fought it tooth and nail because you knew both Hutchison and Coates would feed into a school at that site. Swap Hutchison with Fox Mill or Crossfield, and you're ready to sign up.

The issue around connectivity to other Westfield neighborhoods is BS. The part of Floris that got rezoned to South Lakes in 2008 wanted to stay at Westfield at the time because they didn't want IB, and no one talked about it being separated from other Westfield neighborhoods.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2025 13:10     Subject: Re:FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

It's not really relevant, but the FARMS rates for both Floris and McNair Upper are lower than Westfield. Only Coates is higher, and part of Coates goes to Herndon.


McNair is 29 vs Westfield 31. Coates is at over 5 FARMS.
Floris is lower, but one of the wealthier portions of Floris goes to South Lakes. A good portion of Floris that goes to Westfield is from multi-family housing. There are several areas that are single family--but not large neighborhoods.

Since it seems to be the accusation that it is wealthy people that want out of Westfield, you are very, very mistaken. It has also been implied that the people at KAA will be an elite population. No. It will be a very diverse population. Isn't that what FCPS wants? It would have a nice mix--but definitely not a wealthy--nor an impoverished school.

And, FWIW, the areas from Coates, Floris, and McNair have a much, much higher percentage of English language learners.

And, again, this area is not connected to any other Westfield neighborhoods.