Anonymous wrote:Obviously you can't read either - so I will give you your quote "No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age."
Anonymous wrote:Goalposts - keep moving them
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples
I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.
Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.
No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.
There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages
Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.
"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"
Started club soccer at 14
That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?
Read your quote in bold above again there sport. Moving goalposts only shows you are wrong. Having said that do you not consider someone who is notably one of the best US soccer players ever successful? Do they have to play in the premier league or is US National team good enough? Just want to know what your rules are before you move them again.
We're not speaking of women's level
Not sure what kinda desperation lead to grabbing at that straw
Also, she didn't start playing soccer at 14. She started playing club soccer at 14.
She started playing soccer young and her father coached her.
Obviously you can't read either - so I will give you your quote "No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age." Did you say male player? Did you say top European club? No. You said player at top college (UC Berkley) or professional level (Orlando Pride / Lyon). I guess you are "desperate" to run away from your own words. But we all knew you didn't consider a top US women's national team and Olympic medalist as a serious answer to your question because ..., so I jumped in and threw you Matt Turner. Have at it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples
I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.
Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.
No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.
There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages
Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.
"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"
Started club soccer at 14
That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?
Read your quote in bold above again there sport. Moving goalposts only shows you are wrong. Having said that do you not consider someone who is notably one of the best US soccer players ever successful? Do they have to play in the premier league or is US National team good enough? Just want to know what your rules are before you move them again.
We're not speaking of women's level
Not sure what kinda desperation lead to grabbing at that straw
Also, she didn't start playing soccer at 14. She started playing club soccer at 14.
She started playing soccer young and her father coached her.
Obviously you can't read either - so I will give you your quote "No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age." Did you say male player? Did you say top European club? No. You said player at top college (UC Berkley) or professional level (Orlando Pride / Lyon). I guess you are "desperate" to run away from your own words. But we all knew you didn't consider a top US women's national team and Olympic medalist as a serious answer to your question because ..., so I jumped in and threw you Matt Turner. Have at it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples
I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.
Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.
No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.
There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages
Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.
"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"
Started club soccer at 14
That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?
Read your quote in bold above again there sport. Moving goalposts only shows you are wrong. Having said that do you not consider someone who is notably one of the best US soccer players ever successful? Do they have to play in the premier league or is US National team good enough? Just want to know what your rules are before you move them again.
We're not speaking of women's level
Not sure what kinda desperation lead to grabbing at that straw
Also, she didn't start playing soccer at 14. She started playing club soccer at 14.
She started playing soccer young and her father coached her.
Anonymous wrote:Since this guy is obviously a joker who will narrow the goalposts over and over and never admit his is wrong. Let's throw this one out there.
Matt Turner - 16 - Arsenal
Does that count or are you moving the goalposts again such that goalies don't count, or are you considering Arsenal not a top men's European team?
Anonymous wrote:Since this guy is obviously a joker who will narrow the goalposts over and over and never admit his is wrong. Let's throw this one out there.
Matt Turner - 16 - Arsenal
Does that count or are you moving the goalposts again such that goalies don't count, or are you considering Arsenal not a top men's European team?
Anonymous wrote:Since this guy is obviously a joker who will narrow the goalposts over and over and never admit his is wrong. Let's throw this one out there.
Matt Turner - 16 - Arsenal
Does that count or are you moving the goalposts again such that goalies don't count, or are you considering Arsenal not a top men's European team?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples
I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.
Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.
No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.
There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages
Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.
"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"
Started club soccer at 14
That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?
Read your quote in bold above again there sport. Moving goalposts only shows you are wrong. Having said that do you not consider someone who is notably one of the best US soccer players ever successful? Do they have to play in the premier league or is US National team good enough? Just want to know what your rules are before you move them again.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples
I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.
Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.
No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.
There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages
Alex Morgan - Age 14 - Now we all watch the fun.
"She was a multi-sport athlete growing up and began playing soccer at an early age with the American Youth Soccer Organization (AYSO) and her father was among her first coaches"
Started club soccer at 14
That all said, which European top tier men's team did she play for?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It actually 100% Proves The Point that you can't start soccer as late as HS ages and make it to the top levels
Because there are no examples
I believe PP's point was that there are almost no examples of Americans who made it to the top levels of soccer even after having started early. When you're dealing with such small sample sizes, drawing any kinds of conclusions regarding causality is flawed.
Is this a joke?
Americans are playing and having been playing college soccer and in professional ranks for decades.
No one can find one player at top college or professional levels who started playing soccer at HS age.
There are several examples of basketball and football players who started at HS ages
"Top levels" meaning key player on Real Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, and Bayern Munich, not just some run of the mill pro club.