Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Man, remember when Luis bullied a child? That was wild.
Judging by his little website, it looks like he’s still going.
Anonymous wrote:Woodley deserves a standing ovation for the actions they took. It was a tough decision but the right decision.
One thing we can all do to protect ourselves from these bullies is to submit rules/by-laws change request to our own pools Boards. This is taken from the Woodley web site. I appreciate how specific this is:
Woodley will not tolerate abuse against a member [or guest], including but not limited to, sexual abuse, physical abuse, mental abuse, and emotional abuse (as well as any type of bullying, hazing, or harassment). Bullying involves abusive behavior and includes the use of words and gestures. Emotional bullying includes but is not limited to terrorizing, extorting, humiliating, or abuse based on race, disability, ethnicity, or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity.
Anonymous wrote:Man, remember when Luis bullied a child? That was wild.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, I just got caught up on this thread again. The child in question is a girl?!?!? Is that true?
Yes it’s true, she’s a girl and Luis has gone quiet here.
DP. How do we know that? Just from the anonymous PP claiming she’s a girl?
Whether she was born a boy or a girl is irrelevant. Luis doesn’t know and doesn’t need to know. I guess it’s possible that poster does know but they shouldn’t be sharing. Speculating about her genitalia isn’t OK. She deserves privacy for her body.
What we do know is that Woodley Gardens follows NVSL rules and NVSL follows USA swimming rules for non elite events, and those rules say that children can swim in events associated with the gender that they or their parents register them under. So, she wasn’t breaking the rules. She was swimming where she was supposed to swim. By repeatedly swearing, and changing the posted meet results, Luis did break multiple rules. He also violated the rules of common decency by staring at, talking about, and posting about little girls’ crotches.
yo.. woodley garden is mcsl.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, I just got caught up on this thread again. The child in question is a girl?!?!? Is that true?
Yes it’s true, she’s a girl and Luis has gone quiet here.
DP. How do we know that? Just from the anonymous PP claiming she’s a girl?
Whether she was born a boy or a girl is irrelevant. Luis doesn’t know and doesn’t need to know. I guess it’s possible that poster does know but they shouldn’t be sharing. Speculating about her genitalia isn’t OK. She deserves privacy for her body.
What we do know is that Woodley Gardens follows NVSL rules and NVSL follows USA swimming rules for non elite events, and those rules say that children can swim in events associated with the gender that they or their parents register them under. So, she wasn’t breaking the rules. She was swimming where she was supposed to swim. By repeatedly swearing, and changing the posted meet results, Luis did break multiple rules. He also violated the rules of common decency by staring at, talking about, and posting about little girls’ crotches.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, I just got caught up on this thread again. The child in question is a girl?!?!? Is that true?
Yes it’s true, she’s a girl and Luis has gone quiet here.
DP. How do we know that? Just from the anonymous PP claiming she’s a girl?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, I just got caught up on this thread again. The child in question is a girl?!?!? Is that true?
Yes it’s true, she’s a girl and Luis has gone quiet here.
DP. How do we know that? Just from the anonymous PP claiming she’s a girl?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Luis, thank you for sharing. I agree that boys should not compete against girls, even in youth sports. As an official, I see you were trying to enforce rules and advocate for fair rules. Asking the three spectators questions about the swimmer was not appropriate. Writing “boy” on the meet sheet was not appropriate. I would’ve kept my concerns to meet officials, team reps, and the league to be most effective, professional, and kind. I also agree that the boards communication to you via email only, lacking specifics of the violation, and failing to interview you for your account were not appropriate.
Question for you- was the swimmer actually a boy or girl? Posts reference Terry wee actually a girl but I see no verification of that.
Can you link to NVSL rules about gender? I agree that league rules need to include gender policies.
Marshals are not officials; they are meet-specific deck volunteers.
They receive no formal training beyond a quick briefing from the ref before the meet. It’s very clear what rules they are empowered to enforce and swimmer eligibility is not among them. If a marshal observed an illegal fly finish that the stroke and turn judge missed, they don’t escalate it to the ref and then go bananas when there is no subsequent dq. Because he’s not there to enforce those rules and isn’t permitted to. In addition to the many other issues with this situation, the OP was out of line as a marshal and can’t use that role to justify his actions. (Note, a primary responsibility of marshals IS to ensure there is no foul language or abusive behavior on deck.)
His account (posted on his original post) stated that he is a certified meet official, although yes you are correct, he was volunteering as a marshall in this meet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wait, I just got caught up on this thread again. The child in question is a girl?!?!? Is that true?
Yes it’s true, she’s a girl and Luis has gone quiet here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Luis, thank you for sharing. I agree that boys should not compete against girls, even in youth sports. As an official, I see you were trying to enforce rules and advocate for fair rules. Asking the three spectators questions about the swimmer was not appropriate. Writing “boy” on the meet sheet was not appropriate. I would’ve kept my concerns to meet officials, team reps, and the league to be most effective, professional, and kind. I also agree that the boards communication to you via email only, lacking specifics of the violation, and failing to interview you for your account were not appropriate.
Question for you- was the swimmer actually a boy or girl? Posts reference Terry wee actually a girl but I see no verification of that.
Can you link to NVSL rules about gender? I agree that league rules need to include gender policies.
Marshals are not officials; they are meet-specific deck volunteers.
They receive no formal training beyond a quick briefing from the ref before the meet. It’s very clear what rules they are empowered to enforce and swimmer eligibility is not among them. If a marshal observed an illegal fly finish that the stroke and turn judge missed, they don’t escalate it to the ref and then go bananas when there is no subsequent dq. Because he’s not there to enforce those rules and isn’t permitted to. In addition to the many other issues with this situation, the OP was out of line as a marshal and can’t use that role to justify his actions. (Note, a primary responsibility of marshals IS to ensure there is no foul language or abusive behavior on deck.)
His account (posted on his original post) stated that he is a certified meet official, although yes you are correct, he was volunteering as a marshall in this meet.
He isn’t a certified stroke and turn, starter, or referee.
https://www.mynvsl.com/file/37044/Clinic_Attendance_NVSL_16July2025_pdf