Anonymous
08/11/2025 19:55
Subject: Re:Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
There’s the Heritage goon, right on cue. Does anyone have any doubt as to who is actually running this country? The absolute dregs of the right wing. The guys you punch in the face in the locker room because their faces are just so punch able.
Trust nothing that comes out of the Manchurian candidate’s mouth. He’s gone to pasture and the smug Ayn Rand dweebs are in charge.
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08/07/2025 08:05
Subject: Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about what should be considered a serious threat to the integrity of government and health of our economy turn into accusing a statistician of lying or being a communist?
Why can’t MAGA folks just step back for a moment and realize there is no grand conspiracy spanning thousands of government workers to “get” Trump. Come on, use some common sense she has nothing to gain from this - in fact she lost her job for doing her job!
Because there is a conspiracy. In DOJ alone, we've seen them warp and twist the law exclusively for partisan gain. We saw a judge in NY say Trump defrauded a lender when there was no loss and the transaction was negotiated at arm's length. We've seen a different court uphold an absurd valuation of Mar-a-Lago. I could go on and on and on.
The partisan donation records of government employees speak for themselves, by the way.
This is absolute nonsense, and you know it. Let’s set the record straight. Trump wasn’t accused of fraud because a judge didn’t like his politics or business style. He was found liable because his organization kept two sets of books: one to inflate property values for securing loans and insurance, and another to deflate values for tax purposes. That’s not creative accounting. That’s textbook fraud.
- At 40 Wall Street, Trump told lenders he earned twice as much rent as he reported to tax authorities in the same year.
- Trump's CFO, Allen Weisselberg, testified under oath that they intentionally maintained two sets of records to mislead banks and tax officials.
- In the Mar-a-Lago case, Trump valued the property at $426–612 million while the county appraiser—based on deed restrictions Trump himself signed—valued it at $18–27 million4. That’s a 2,300% overstatement.
This wasn’t a one-off. It was a systematic scheme spanning over a decade, involving hundreds of false valuations across multiple properties. The New York judge called it “fraudulent” and ordered Trump to pay $354 million in disgorgement.
So no, this isn’t about partisan DOJ employees or some vague conspiracy. It’s about documented financial deception, confirmed by internal records, sworn testimony, and judicial rulings. If you want to defend Trump, do it honestly, but don’t pretend this is purely partisan politics or a grand conspiracy. It’s textbook fraud, plain and simple.
Beautifully said.
The hypocrisy and utter lack of self-awareness is astounding. Whining about partisan employees and conspiracies, when Trump just fired someone for NOT fudging the numbers to flatter him. It doesn’t get any more partisan than that.
Anonymous
08/07/2025 07:54
Subject: Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
Anonymous wrote:Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman "the paranoid style in American economics." Trump is killing the credibility of American institutions.
Most economists found this report entirely credible. The BLS has a sterling reputation for careful, objective analysis, and as I said, Friday’s report brought the official estimates into line with other evidence. What about those revisions? As Jared Berstein explained in a Substack post yesterday, revisions are normal. Without getting too deep into the weeds, the BLS wants to be timely, so it issues preliminary reports based on incomplete data, then routinely revises them as more data come in. Revisions tend to be especially large around turning points; what we saw Friday is exactly what we’d expect if the economy is in fact experiencing a significant slowdown, which would show up more strongly in revised data than in the initial reports.
But Donald Trump screamed “conspiracy” and fired the head of the BLS, because of course he did:
I don’t want to spend much time debunking Trump’s claim that there was a conspiracy to make the job numbers look bad. Suffice it to say that rigging the job numbers would be a complicated process, requiring the cooperation of many people, and we’d almost surely have whistleblowers telling us that it was happening. In fact, we will know that it’s happening when, as seems highly likely, Trump’s people politicize the BLS.
And as I said, independent indicators also point to a job slowdown. For example, Automatic Data Processing, which does many companies’ payrolls, produces independent estimates of private employment. People I know who follow these things closely consider ADP’s numbers noisy and less reliable than BLS, but if BLS were rigging the numbers to hide the glories of the Trump economy, we’d expect to see that hidden Trump boom in the ADP estimates. We don’t.
Krugman should get deep into the weeds so then MAGA might grasp the fact they don’t understand statistics and large scale data collection. They’re total morons! They should stick with what they know…. mRNA vaccine production.
Anonymous
08/07/2025 07:46
Subject: Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She was a commie leftist
She was/is not in the slightest. I know her.
The fired woman has strong credentials and worked during several administrations, Republican and Democrat.
Unfortunately to the MAGA minions, she could be a saint and they would still slander her because Trump says so, because the facts don't say what he wants them to say, so it's time for Trump to make sure he gets his #alternative facts. This is how democracies die.
It's the same thing with the NASA carbon satellite that Trump wants destroyed. He doesn't like the facts, so he wants the messenger shot. It's delusional, dishonest and disgusting.
Anonymous
08/06/2025 22:56
Subject: Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
Trump Isn’t Even Trying to Make His BLS Overhaul Make Sense
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trump-isnt-even-trying-to-make-his-bls-overhaul-make-sense/amp/
“It’s a highly political situation,” the president said of the Bureau of Labor Statistics during a Tuesday morning interview with CNBC. “It’s totally rigged. Smart people know it. People with common sense know it.”
It isn’t just that “the numbers were rigged,” Trump insisted, leading him to sack his BLS commissioner. The bureau also “announced these phenomenal numbers before the election,” he added. The president must have assumed that no one would check his work.
It’s a highly political situation,” the president said of the Bureau of Labor Statistics during a Tuesday morning interview with CNBC. “It’s totally rigged. Smart people know it. People with common sense know it.”
It isn’t just that “the numbers were rigged,” Trump insisted, leading him to sack his BLS commissioner. The bureau also “announced these phenomenal numbers before the election,” he added. The president must have assumed that no one would check his work.
In March 2024, the BLS revealed that, through timely and transparent revisions to its survey data, it had overestimated payroll growth over the previous year by 818,000 jobs. “Total nonfarm payroll employment was essentially unchanged in October (+12,000),” the BLS reported just four days before Election Day, “following an average monthly gain of 194,000 over the prior 12 months.” These are not “phenomenal numbers,” even if they were revised upward the following month.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trump-isnt-even-trying-to-make-his-bls-overhaul-make-sense/amp/
“It’s a highly political situation,” the president said of the Bureau of Labor Statistics during a Tuesday morning interview with CNBC. “It’s totally rigged. Smart people know it. People with common sense know it.”
It isn’t just that “the numbers were rigged,” Trump insisted, leading him to sack his BLS commissioner. The bureau also “announced these phenomenal numbers before the election,” he added. The president must have assumed that no one would check his work.
It’s a highly political situation,” the president said of the Bureau of Labor Statistics during a Tuesday morning interview with CNBC. “It’s totally rigged. Smart people know it. People with common sense know it.”
It isn’t just that “the numbers were rigged,” Trump insisted, leading him to sack his BLS commissioner. The bureau also “announced these phenomenal numbers before the election,” he added. The president must have assumed that no one would check his work.
In March 2024, the BLS revealed that, through timely and transparent revisions to its survey data, it had overestimated payroll growth over the previous year by 818,000 jobs. “Total nonfarm payroll employment was essentially unchanged in October (+12,000),” the BLS reported just four days before Election Day, “following an average monthly gain of 194,000 over the prior 12 months.” These are not “phenomenal numbers,” even if they were revised upward the following month.
Anonymous
08/06/2025 17:37
Subject: Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She was a commie leftist
She was/is not in the slightest. I know her.
The fired woman has strong credentials and worked during several administrations, Republican and Democrat.
Unfortunately to the MAGA minions, she could be a saint and they would still slander her because Trump says so, because the facts don't say what he wants them to say, so it's time for Trump to make sure he gets his #alternative facts. This is how democracies die.
Anonymous
08/06/2025 17:29
Subject: Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about what should be considered a serious threat to the integrity of government and health of our economy turn into accusing a statistician of lying or being a communist?
Why can’t MAGA folks just step back for a moment and realize there is no grand conspiracy spanning thousands of government workers to “get” Trump. Come on, use some common sense she has nothing to gain from this - in fact she lost her job for doing her job!
Because there is a conspiracy. In DOJ alone, we've seen them warp and twist the law exclusively for partisan gain. We saw a judge in NY say Trump defrauded a lender when there was no loss and the transaction was negotiated at arm's length. We've seen a different court uphold an absurd valuation of Mar-a-Lago. I could go on and on and on.
The partisan donation records of government employees speak for themselves, by the way.
This is precisely what I’m talking about. Random mid-level employment at DOI cannot effectuate policy for political gain. It’s literally impossible.
Anonymous
08/06/2025 16:57
Subject: Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about what should be considered a serious threat to the integrity of government and health of our economy turn into accusing a statistician of lying or being a communist?
Why can’t MAGA folks just step back for a moment and realize there is no grand conspiracy spanning thousands of government workers to “get” Trump. Come on, use some common sense she has nothing to gain from this - in fact she lost her job for doing her job!
Because there is a conspiracy. In DOJ alone, we've seen them warp and twist the law exclusively for partisan gain. We saw a judge in NY say Trump defrauded a lender when there was no loss and the transaction was negotiated at arm's length. We've seen a different court uphold an absurd valuation of Mar-a-Lago. I could go on and on and on.
The partisan donation records of government employees speak for themselves, by the way.
This is absolute nonsense, and you know it. Let’s set the record straight. Trump wasn’t accused of fraud because a judge didn’t like his politics or business style. He was found liable because his organization kept two sets of books: one to inflate property values for securing loans and insurance, and another to deflate values for tax purposes. That’s not creative accounting. That’s textbook fraud.
- At 40 Wall Street, Trump told lenders he earned twice as much rent as he reported to tax authorities in the same year.
- Trump's CFO, Allen Weisselberg, testified under oath that they intentionally maintained two sets of records to mislead banks and tax officials.
- In the Mar-a-Lago case, Trump valued the property at $426–612 million while the county appraiser—based on deed restrictions Trump himself signed—valued it at $18–27 million4. That’s a 2,300% overstatement.
This wasn’t a one-off. It was a systematic scheme spanning over a decade, involving hundreds of false valuations across multiple properties. The New York judge called it “fraudulent” and ordered Trump to pay $354 million in disgorgement.
So no, this isn’t about partisan DOJ employees or some vague conspiracy. It’s about documented financial deception, confirmed by internal records, sworn testimony, and judicial rulings. If you want to defend Trump, do it honestly, but don’t pretend this is purely partisan politics or a grand conspiracy. It’s textbook fraud, plain and simple.
Anonymous
08/06/2025 16:49
Subject: Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
Anonymous wrote:How did a thread about what should be considered a serious threat to the integrity of government and health of our economy turn into accusing a statistician of lying or being a communist?
Why can’t MAGA folks just step back for a moment and realize there is no grand conspiracy spanning thousands of government workers to “get” Trump. Come on, use some common sense she has nothing to gain from this - in fact she lost her job for doing her job!
Because there is a conspiracy. In DOJ alone, we've seen them warp and twist the law exclusively for partisan gain. We saw a judge in NY say Trump defrauded a lender when there was no loss and the transaction was negotiated at arm's length. We've seen a different court uphold an absurd valuation of Mar-a-Lago. I could go on and on and on.
The partisan donation records of government employees speak for themselves, by the way.
Anonymous
08/06/2025 16:44
Subject: Trump fires commissioner of labor statistics to be fired after weak jobs figures
How did a thread about what should be considered a serious threat to the integrity of government and health of our economy turn into accusing a statistician of lying or being a communist?
Why can’t MAGA folks just step back for a moment and realize there is no grand conspiracy spanning thousands of government workers to “get” Trump. Come on, use some common sense she has nothing to gain from this - in fact she lost her job for doing her job!
Why can’t MAGA folks just step back for a moment and realize there is no grand conspiracy spanning thousands of government workers to “get” Trump. Come on, use some common sense she has nothing to gain from this - in fact she lost her job for doing her job!