Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:30
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Anonymous wrote:Like Dufief, Travilah ES is also much closer to QO than to Wootton.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why move Dufief though? It’s attended Frost and Wootton for decades (neither school is over crowded) and has such a small student population it barely makes a difference in total numbers.
Because DuFief is not geographically close to Wootton. There are many other neighborhoods and schools that are closer and DuFief is very close to QO. Why dont you care about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity like all the other parents?
No the are equal distant use a map ever ?
Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:25
Subject: Re:Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Wootton is about 4 miles from Dufief and you can get there in ten minutes on a good day. We are hardly sending the kids all over the county. Unless they put a light on 28 and Dufief the traffic situation getting Dufief to QO will add plenty of time to that drive, although it’s a shorter distance by mileage it may not be by time.
If the intent (one of them) is to minimize disruption, why do anything to Dufief at all? It’s a very small, already diverse student population. It’s been part of the Wootton community for 50 years. That means dufief kids are already friends w other Wootton feeder elem kids, they participate in the Wootton school play. Why move them at all? The neighborhood doesn’t want the “benefit”’of the shorter commute. What is the downside to just leaving dufief alone? Unless you are mad you have a change and want someone else to also have a change too so you can feel better.
If the intent (one of them) is to minimize disruption, why do anything to Dufief at all? It’s a very small, already diverse student population. It’s been part of the Wootton community for 50 years. That means dufief kids are already friends w other Wootton feeder elem kids, they participate in the Wootton school play. Why move them at all? The neighborhood doesn’t want the “benefit”’of the shorter commute. What is the downside to just leaving dufief alone? Unless you are mad you have a change and want someone else to also have a change too so you can feel better.
Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:25
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Am I reading this map right? Lakelands/Kentlands in option 3 to Gaithersburg HS even though QO is across the street from parts of Kentlands.
Rachel Carson --> Lakelands MS --> Gaithersburg HS is option 3.
The MAGAhats are exploding all over the internet about this. 😂
This is not going to happen but it’s fun watching them squirm and try to play off their racism as a transport issue. Which it is but that’s not why they are upset.
Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:23
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is it the same as the Woodward boundary study, where option #1 is all about stability, #2 about utilization, #3 about demographics, and #4 about proximity?
Pretty much
Option 1,Simplifies feeder patterns.
Option 2, Maximizes efficient use of capacity.
Option 3 , Focuses on improving demographic balance.
Option 4 ,Minimizes disruption to current assignments. But also leaves crown highly under capacity
I really think of these, option 1 is the best
Very rational
Excellent summary
Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:19
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
And DuFief area is nowhere near Wootton. Ridgeview or Lakelands Park and QO makes much more sense for DuFief.brightwood wrote:
When QOHS was built, the DuFief neighborhood was supposed to go there but people fought back so viciously that the proposal was dropped. It makes no sense for DuFief to go all the way over to Wootton when there’s multiple closer high schools now (Crown, QOHS and probably even Northwest).
Crown is not closer than Wootton to Dufief they are the same.
I do agree Dufief could go to Q O
Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:15
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why move Dufief though? It’s attended Frost and Wootton for decades (neither school is over crowded) and has such a small student population it barely makes a difference in total numbers.
Because DuFief is not geographically close to Wootton. There are many other neighborhoods and schools that are closer and DuFief is very close to QO. Why dont you care about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity like all the other parents?
Sure, neighborhood schools. That’s why three out of four of the dufief options have split articulation and bus them all over. And they make massive changes to Dufief while making more minor ones to the surrounding Travilah and Stone Mill. I’m sure it’s really about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity and not at all about the fact they think DuFief will just sit quietly and not fight this.
That’s right, they thinks DuFief is small neighborhood and can bully us. We need to fight back for this. It’s been this week for decades.
It’s been this boundary for decades, plus frost ms and Wootton hs is currently undercapacity and undercrowded. They should move the travailah to qo
Around 1994 is the last time Dufief on either side of Muddy Branch was redistricted. The Stone mill
Side off of Lake winds used to go to Frost. It was a stupid move to cabin John for split articulation .
Anonymous
06/03/2025 08:09
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Every family in Wootton spent huge amounts of money moving to the district, and the community was built over decades. And a White Savior looks at this and all they can think is, “why perpetuate the stereotype?”
Anonymous
06/03/2025 07:58
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My bad, i read the table wrong. Yes, the numbers are all about the same.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option 1&3: Churchill Asian increased from 33% to 37%, FARMS decreased from 10.9% to 9.9%. Wootton Asian increased from 37.4% to 43.2% and FARMS decreased from 13.4% to 11.9%.
I'm pretty sure the current options will exacerbate educational inequality, but I amsatisfied. I wonder can we reduce the FARMS to 5% or even lower for Churchill?
Are we looking at different data set? For all 4 options, Churchill Asian decrease from 37% to34.7% and farm from 9.9% to 9.8%.
Yes Wootton already the most Asian school becomes more so in all scenarios. WTF makes no sense. I have a ton of Asian friends so nothing wrong with it at all, but why further perpetuate the stereotype of Wootton and increase the nicknames for it.
All these Asian families you are talking about want to stay at Wootton. And you are speaking on behalf of them saying, "why perpetuate the stereotype?". HILARIOUS. Please say it to their face.
Anonymous
06/03/2025 07:53
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why move Dufief though? It’s attended Frost and Wootton for decades (neither school is over crowded) and has such a small student population it barely makes a difference in total numbers.
Because DuFief is not geographically close to Wootton. There are many other neighborhoods and schools that are closer and DuFief is very close to QO. Why dont you care about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity like all the other parents?
Sure, neighborhood schools. That’s why three out of four of the dufief options have split articulation and bus them all over. And they make massive changes to Dufief while making more minor ones to the surrounding Travilah and Stone Mill. I’m sure it’s really about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity and not at all about the fact they think DuFief will just sit quietly and not fight this.
That’s right, they thinks DuFief is small neighborhood and can bully us. We need to fight back for this. It’s been this week for decades.
It’s been this boundary for decades, plus frost ms and Wootton hs is currently undercapacity and undercrowded. They should move the travailah to qo
How about wishing both Travilah and Dufief still go to Wootton, why pointing fingers to Travilah? Because you don’t want to go under the bus, you throw your neighbor under it? Interesting[/quotes
Yeah. Let’s hope leave Wootton cluster alone, I know it’s wishful thinking.
Anonymous
06/03/2025 07:46
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My bad, i read the table wrong. Yes, the numbers are all about the same.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Option 1&3: Churchill Asian increased from 33% to 37%, FARMS decreased from 10.9% to 9.9%. Wootton Asian increased from 37.4% to 43.2% and FARMS decreased from 13.4% to 11.9%.
I'm pretty sure the current options will exacerbate educational inequality, but I amsatisfied. I wonder can we reduce the FARMS to 5% or even lower for Churchill?
Are we looking at different data set? For all 4 options, Churchill Asian decrease from 37% to34.7% and farm from 9.9% to 9.8%.
So why even mess with Wootton families and force them to move out to QO and crown? There are only losers and the ones being moved out are the relatively poorer ones. Financial hit on them will be devastating. What’s even worse is that their kids will have to be separated from their friends. This kind of double whammy is too much.
Every school is going to experience change when a new school opens. They are not going to leave Wootton and Churchill as is in a boundary study. Can you imagine the backlash? And at least for Wootton there are definitely neighborhoods in the Wootton cluster close to Crown, some even walking distance like part of Fallsmead's boundary. And DuFief area is nowhere near Wootton. Ridgeview or Lakelands Park and QO makes much more sense for DuFief.
"Imagine the backlash" Please. Whitman barely changed, do you think anybody is going to care outside of some grumbling? These schools are affected where it makes sense to change them, but fear of backlash only exists in the minds of DCUM.
Anonymous
06/03/2025 07:36
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
"Why doesn't MCPS pull some of the richest kids out of RM and put them in a W school?"
Why Horizon Hill removed in the first place? Have priorities changed since then? "I don't understand why..." Yes you do, stop lying.
Why Horizon Hill removed in the first place? Have priorities changed since then? "I don't understand why..." Yes you do, stop lying.
Anonymous
06/03/2025 07:05
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
Anonymous wrote:Is Cold Spring ES still undercrowded? Why not move Horizon Hill to Cold Spring, Frost and Wootton since they are all walkable to that neighborhood? I don’t get why that isn’t an option. RM is over crowded and Wootton is under capacity.
Or just move all of Ritchie Park back to Frost and Wootton as it was in the 80s.
brightwood
06/03/2025 07:00
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
RCES has two options going to QO, one option to Crown, one option to... GAITHERSBURG!
It seems like option 3 is the least likely option for several neighborhoods. Not only does it have kentlands/lakelands going over to Gaithersburg HS, but it also has neighborhoods near Lakelands and Ridgeview MS going over to Forest Oak MS, which would be an absurd distance to travel when there’s two closer middle schools. My assumption is they threw in option 3 as an attempt to diversify things, knowing it will get voted down into oblivion.
brightwood
06/03/2025 06:55
Subject: Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study
And DuFief area is nowhere near Wootton. Ridgeview or Lakelands Park and QO makes much more sense for DuFief.
When QOHS was built, the DuFief neighborhood was supposed to go there but people fought back so viciously that the proposal was dropped. It makes no sense for DuFief to go all the way over to Wootton when there’s multiple closer high schools now (Crown, QOHS and probably even Northwest).