Anonymous
05/15/2025 13:43
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
Talk to Blue’s parents, who are clearly adultifying her at the age of 13.
*sigh* These are important conversations and I don't mind having them, but you really have to at least educate yourself on the topic before participating. You keep blaming Beyoncé, but adultification isn’t about what a parent lets their kid wear, it’s about how you and society project adult or sexual meanings onto Black girls who are just being kids.
Blue Ivy performing in a sparkly outfit doesn’t make her grown. What makes her ‘look grown’ to you is adultification bias, the same bias that research shows leads people to see Black girls as older, less innocent, and more sexual than they actually are.
That’s not on Beyoncé. That’s on you
DP. I think the disconnect is that you and PP are talking about separate things. You are talking about a well documented phenomenon where black children are adultified in our community in comparison to white children. For example, if a hypothetical person saw a white girl and a black girl on a playground, or in the same fifth grade class, said person may view or treat the black child differently. It’s a harmful phenomenon.
But I think PP is talking about the choices that Blue Ivy’s parents are making that seem harmful to her childhood.
Taking race out of it, Britney Spears was 16 when Hit Me Baby came out. She was dressed as a schoolgirl, complete with braids and knee high socks. At 16. Her parents and she made choices that led to her being sexualized as a child.
Putting Blue Ivy on tour, in certain clothing, having her dance suggestively (similar to Britney Spears) will likely lead to her “adultification”. And that part is not due to race, but to choices she and her parents are making.
For the record I don’t see anything from her as harmful as what Britney was doing at 16. Still, having her be to public at this young age is… probably not good for her.
+1 Thank you. Exactly!
Anonymous
05/15/2025 13:34
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
Talk to Blue’s parents, who are clearly adultifying her at the age of 13.
*sigh* These are important conversations and I don't mind having them, but you really have to at least educate yourself on the topic before participating. You keep blaming Beyoncé, but adultification isn’t about what a parent lets their kid wear, it’s about how you and society project adult or sexual meanings onto Black girls who are just being kids.
Blue Ivy performing in a sparkly outfit doesn’t make her grown. What makes her ‘look grown’ to you is adultification bias, the same bias that research shows leads people to see Black girls as older, less innocent, and more sexual than they actually are.
That’s not on Beyoncé. That’s on you
DP. I think the disconnect is that you and PP are talking about separate things. You are talking about a well documented phenomenon where black children are adultified in our community in comparison to white children. For example, if a hypothetical person saw a white girl and a black girl on a playground, or in the same fifth grade class, said person may view or treat the black child differently. It’s a harmful phenomenon.
But I think PP is talking about the choices that Blue Ivy’s parents are making that seem harmful to her childhood.
Taking race out of it, Britney Spears was 16 when Hit Me Baby came out. She was dressed as a schoolgirl, complete with braids and knee high socks. At 16. Her parents and she made choices that led to her being sexualized as a child.
Putting Blue Ivy on tour, in certain clothing, having her dance suggestively (similar to Britney Spears) will likely lead to her “adultification”. And that part is not due to race, but to choices she and her parents are making.
For the record I don’t see anything from her as harmful as what Britney was doing at 16. Still, having her be to public at this young age is… probably not good for her.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 13:33
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
Talk to Blue’s parents, who are clearly adultifying her at the age of 13.
*sigh* These are important conversations and I don't mind having them, but you really have to at least educate yourself on the topic before participating. You keep blaming Beyoncé, but adultification isn’t about what a parent lets their kid wear, it’s about how you and society project adult or sexual meanings onto Black girls who are just being kids.
Blue Ivy performing in a sparkly outfit doesn’t make her grown. What makes her ‘look grown’ to you is adultification bias, the same bias that research shows leads people to see Black girls as older, less innocent, and more sexual than they actually are.
That’s not on Beyoncé. That’s on you
No, ma'am. Sexy gyrations and dance moves in a body forming outfit on a public stage when a young woman just tirned 13 in January are seen by the public for what it is; and it is not adultification bias towards Black girls. You can put Jon Benet Ramsey and Britney Spears in the same category.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 13:11
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
Talk to Blue’s parents, who are clearly adultifying her at the age of 13.
*sigh* These are important conversations and I don't mind having them, but you really have to at least educate yourself on the topic before participating. You keep blaming Beyoncé, but adultification isn’t about what a parent lets their kid wear, it’s about how you and society project adult or sexual meanings onto Black girls who are just being kids.
Blue Ivy performing in a sparkly outfit doesn’t make her grown. What makes her ‘look grown’ to you is adultification bias, the same bias that research shows leads people to see Black girls as older, less innocent, and more sexual than they actually are.
That’s not on Beyoncé. That’s on you
Anonymous
05/15/2025 13:05
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:This isn’t about ‘excuses’, it’s about understanding the real, documented ways Black girls are perceived and treated differently in society. The article I shared is based on research by Georgetown Law that shows Black girls are more likely to be seen as older, less innocent, and more adult than their white peers. It’s not about what anyone wears; it’s about the lens through which they’re viewed. Ignoring that just reinforces the problem. I’d really encourage you to read the report with an open mind before writing it off as BS.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
BS excuses for drssing in a sexy way intentionally.
I see seen that research and work with all kinds of teens and kids from 5 to 18. I undwrstand what the saying. I also know that most of the Black girls in my schools dress appropritely, as do white, Hispanic, and Asian. There are more than a few from all groups, however, (fewer Asians) who show up as young as elementary school with their tight shorts up to their crotches and midriff bared. Teens wearing tight tops with cleavage showing. They don't have to dress like that, and we keep clothes in the front office closet for those who need a change.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 13:04
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
Talk to Blue’s parents, who are clearly adultifying her at the age of 13.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 13:02
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
BS excuses for drssing in a sexy way intentionally.
+1
Anonymous
05/15/2025 12:30
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
This isn’t about ‘excuses’, it’s about understanding the real, documented ways Black girls are perceived and treated differently in society. The article I shared is based on research by Georgetown Law that shows Black girls are more likely to be seen as older, less innocent, and more adult than their white peers. It’s not about what anyone wears; it’s about the lens through which they’re viewed. Ignoring that just reinforces the problem. I’d really encourage you to read the report with an open mind before writing it off as BS.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
BS excuses for drssing in a sexy way intentionally.
Anonymous
05/15/2025 11:03
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
BS excuses for drssing in a sexy way intentionally.
Anonymous
05/14/2025 10:27
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
+1 and if they have hair extensions and tons of make up.
Anonymous
05/14/2025 10:27
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
You can think what you want about Blue Ivy but you should educate yourself on adultification. https://genderjusticeandopportunity.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/girlhood-interrupted.pdfAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
Anonymous
05/14/2025 09:38
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope Beyoncé knows what she’s doing because her daughter is only 13 years old, she looks much older than that and she is very pretty. I would be worried about it, but I’m not her mom. I have no opinion on her talent or abilities because I know zero about that.
Black girls always look older to some people
Only if dressed to show cleavage and tight clothes. Same goes for white girls.
Anonymous
05/14/2025 09:00
Subject: Re:Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A life on stage is the only life Beyoncé knows. Here, she is performing 'Home' by Stephanie Mills when she is just 7 years old.
Britney was a better singer at this age. Interesting.
Beyonce really worked hard at her voice. I don’t see anything impressive about this performance. The only reason she was lead singer is because of her parents and being lighter skinned
+1 this doesn’t scream child star to me at all!
Anonymous
05/14/2025 01:11
Subject: Re:Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:A life on stage is the only life Beyoncé knows. Here, she is performing 'Home' by Stephanie Mills when she is just 7 years old.
Britney was a better singer at this age. Interesting.
Beyonce really worked hard at her voice. I don’t see anything impressive about this performance. The only reason she was lead singer is because of her parents and being lighter skinned
Anonymous
05/14/2025 00:14
Subject: Beyonce and Blu Ivy
Anonymous wrote:That's not a 7 year old girl, more like a 12 or 13 year old girl. It's alleged she's been lying about her age, shaved 5 to 7 years off.
I don't know what in the adultification of Black children hell is going on with you, but that is not a 13 year old. Her voice, cadence, movements, and everything scream much younger child.