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Anonymous wrote:Survival of the fittest. I can't feel sorry for a family that ignores science and doctors and then dies from something 100% preventable.

You can't feel sorry for the KID who was hospitalized and died? The KID didn't make the decision not to be vaccinated. Go dust off your humanity.

Not PP but everyone here feels sorry for this kid and the other kids who are sick. The kids aren’t the ones who are ignoring doctors and science.

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

What useful details are you looking for? There’s also a thread in the Health forum if that helps.

My grandma lost 100 percent hearing in 1 ear and 50 percent in the other due to measles. She lived in a poor area and didn't learn sign language or have any special assistance. She barely graduated highschool and got married at 18. Lived and worked on the farm her whole life. Also she had a sibling die from either measles or some fever.

Anonymous wrote:Okay, maybe we overreacted to Covid with multi-year school closures, child masking, and vaccine mandates that later got rejected by the courts.

But we're not overreacting to measles. It may have been considered a routine childhood illness once, but that's not how we think of it anymore. And that's a good thing. Better safe than sorry.

Covid is a far deeper hole than just overreacting. let's at least remember some facts: vaccine mandates were not "rejected by the courts". OSHA mandates for all employers were rejected while mandates for medical workers, healthy students in most colleges, federal and state government employees and contractors, all of this remained. NYC still went with all employer mandates (any size of employer in every industry) in fall of 2021 despite the SCOTUS ruling, many thousands of people were fired for not complying with mandates in a city where more than half of population was already recovered from Covid by that time. In addition, several cities instituted vaccine passports to enter any public place that's not essential for survival. In NYC then went even further by mandating shots for all children over the age of 5 (back when shots were still EUA) in order to enter any public places (even with vaccinated parents), participate in any school extracurriculars, sports, etc. This is reality you may not be aware of, and it's just scratching the surface.

Anonymous wrote:Okay, maybe we overreacted to Covid with multi-year school closures, child masking, and vaccine mandates that later got rejected by the courts.

But we're not overreacting to measles. It may have been considered a routine childhood illness once, but that's not how we think of it anymore. And that's a good thing. Better safe than sorry.

This time the wolf is real!

Now let me ask you this, how many people have died from the MMR vaccine in the last 10 years?

Okay, maybe we overreacted to Covid with multi-year school closures, child masking, and vaccine mandates that later got rejected by the courts.

But we're not overreacting to measles. It may have been considered a routine childhood illness once, but that's not how we think of it anymore. And that's a good thing. Better safe than sorry.

What kind of details do you want???

Those pro-lifers are so hypocritical. Clearly pro-life has nothing to do with life and well being of the child.
Those parents mustered their child and deserve jail and death sentence.

Anonymous wrote:Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

You must not understand how contagious measles is.

Is this a 15 page thread about one death with no useful details?

They’re owning the libs, one pediatric body bag at a time.

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Anonymous wrote:Pregnant women should be terrified. Rubella is now present in Texas.

So stupid. People were lulled into complacency because there was enough herd immunity when they chose to ride on everyone else’s coattails. Now too many have dropped their duty to the country and children will die and become disabled.

At the top of the list of people who have dropped their duty to the country:

“But neither Gov. Greg Abbott nor lawmakers from the hardest hit areas have addressed the outbreak publicly in press conferences, social media posts or public calls for people to consider getting vaccinated. State and local authorities in West Texas have not yet enacted more significant measures that other places have adopted during outbreaks, like excluding unvaccinated students from school before they are exposed, or enforcing quarantine after exposure.

The response to Texas’ first major public health crisis since COVID is being shaped by the long-term consequences of the pandemic, experts say — stronger vaccine hesitancy, decreased trust in science and authorities, and an unwillingness from politicians to aggressively push public health measures like vaccination and quarantine.”
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/02/28/texas-measles-abbott-lawmakers-response/

Wow. I keep thinking I can no longer be shocked. Not there yet. This is appalling.

People die from measles. It's a highly contagious viral disease that can lead to serious complications such as pneumonia, encephalitis and death. Before there was a measles vaccine available, people here in the US died by the hundreds in outbreaks each year. Studies show there needs to be at least 95% vaccination and immunity to prevent outbreaks.

We're heading back into medieval times with this anti-vaxxer stupidity, when people would routinely suffer and die from easily preventable diseases.

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

My sister almost died from chicken pox in the late 70's -- she was under 2 and got double pneumonia and was hospitalized for a week. We vaccinate against these childhood diseases because--like COVID--for most people, most of the time, you're fine but if you get really sick you get REALLY SICK and can end up permanently disabled or dead. It's stupid to reject a safe vaccine in favor of taking a chance that you will survive a contagious, dangerous, preventable disease.

We do pick and choose some vaccines--you don't get rabies vaccinations, for example, unless you get bitten by a wild or undocumented animal and then you go through the rabies series. Most of us don't get vaccinated for cholera or hep A unless we're traveling to parts of the world where those diseases are prevalent or we work in a setting where we could get them. But there's no reason not to get vaccinated for something that is highly contagious without close human contact and has serious or fatal consequences.

Yeah, I had measles as a child, and I was not fine. I was hospitalized - I spent my first birthday in the hospital. I was exposed before I was old enough for the vaccine. I lost 50% of my hearing in one ear and still suffer from severe headaches and ear pain. I also had to go through lots of therapy as a kid after they realized my STM wasn't great and almost certainly a result of having measles. Just because someone doesn't die from it, it doesn't mean they'll be fine afterwards. The doctors didn't even know about my short term memory issues until I was 6 or 7 years old, possibly 8.

If you have relatives in your life who may have been vaccinated before 1968 and they don't know if they were given the live vaccine, they should get a booster. This is very critical for anyone vaccinated BEFORE 1968 as that is when the use of the live vaccine started.

My parents are getting their boosters tomorrow. I took my aunt this morning for hers. The pharmacist at Walgreens said they've been doing at least a dozen a day since the outbreak happened.

Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

My sister almost died from chicken pox in the late 70's -- she was under 2 and got double pneumonia and was hospitalized for a week. We vaccinate against these childhood diseases because--like COVID--for most people, most of the time, you're fine but if you get really sick you get REALLY SICK and can end up permanently disabled or dead. It's stupid to reject a safe vaccine in favor of taking a chance that you will survive a contagious, dangerous, preventable disease.

We do pick and choose some vaccines--you don't get rabies vaccinations, for example, unless you get bitten by a wild or undocumented animal and then you go through the rabies series. Most of us don't get vaccinated for cholera or hep A unless we're traveling to parts of the world where those diseases are prevalent or we work in a setting where we could get them. But there's no reason not to get vaccinated for something that is highly contagious without close human contact and has serious or fatal consequences.