Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 12:27     Subject: Re:Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

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Anonymous wrote:My sister just moved to an EU county for non-political reasons. We plan to visit for an extended time next year. If we like it, and things escalate here, we will move. We have a daughter with disability who requires a lot of care. If her Medicaid is cut we will move.


Your daughter having a disability will make it impossible for her to move to another country. Wake up.


Eff off. Why would you say this, instead of something helpful? What's wrong with you?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 11:28     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look at Australia. Very receptive to immigrants - 31% population born overseas. Far from the troubles of the US and Europe (but with its own anxiety over China). Skills shortages. Universities accept lot of international students. More than 100,000 Americans already live in Australia. On the negative side, high COL and tough housing market.


My European family live in the U.S. and Australia. Not sure how you think Australia is open to immigrants. The illegals are shipped off to an island with well-documented abuse and the legal are not treated very well. We are white so fared much better but Australia is well-known for being racist.


Legal immigrants aren’t treated very well??!! How do you figure that?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 11:04     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve thought about leaving. Not because of Trump/Musk, but because liberals are destroying this country. Trump and Musk have actually given me hope for the future of my family.



+1


I’m guessing this is a troll or someone in the 1% who will be benefiting financially.
If it’s someone else, when the Leopard eats your face, I’m not going to be sympathetic.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 10:50     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve thought about leaving. Not because of Trump/Musk, but because liberals are destroying this country. Trump and Musk have actually given me hope for the future of my family.


Do you honestly think the moves this administration is making will be good for you financially or for national security? Serious question.


Yes. I already feel safer now that the border is closed and criminals are being removed. His economic policies will take time to erase the damage of Biden, but cutting wasteful spending, eliminating the bloated government bureaucracy, reducing regulations and extending his tax cuts will be good for the country.


Why do you like massive debt?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 10:41     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

Anonymous wrote:Look at Australia. Very receptive to immigrants - 31% population born overseas. Far from the troubles of the US and Europe (but with its own anxiety over China). Skills shortages. Universities accept lot of international students. More than 100,000 Americans already live in Australia. On the negative side, high COL and tough housing market.


My European family live in the U.S. and Australia. Not sure how you think Australia is open to immigrants. The illegals are shipped off to an island with well-documented abuse and the legal are not treated very well. We are white so fared much better but Australia is well-known for being racist.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 10:38     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

I would only leave if we had kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 10:27     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:No, I'm actually returning to the US. Despite everything, the US is still one of the best places in the world for skilled work. I hit a dead end here. Economically, Europe has been struggling.

Don't let the 'liberal' mindset fool you.
Culturally, it's very xenophobic even if you speak the local language. People are racist and closed-minded here, especially towards foreigners. Integration is hard.

Yes, some places are safer, but a lot of these countries have real issues too.


This +100 - grass isn't always greener on the other side.


Yes. In much of Europe, they really do not like Americans.

This is true and is only getting worse.

Now if you’re an American and a POC then you will be fine in most of Western Europe.

WHAT? This is a joke, right?


Seriously, Europe is ultra racist and generally intolerant of anything but the Christian white norm. I feel like Americans just have no idea.


Would those of us who are white/Christian be better off in the US or Wurope?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 10:21     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, I'm actually returning to the US. Despite everything, the US is still one of the best places in the world for skilled work. I hit a dead end here. Economically, Europe has been struggling.

Don't let the 'liberal' mindset fool you.
Culturally, it's very xenophobic even if you speak the local language. People are racist and closed-minded here, especially towards foreigners. Integration is hard.

Yes, some places are safer, but a lot of these countries have real issues too.


This +100 - grass isn't always greener on the other side.


Yes. In much of Europe, they really do not like Americans.

This is true and is only getting worse.

Now if you’re an American and a POC then you will be fine in most of Western Europe.

WHAT? This is a joke, right?


Seriously, Europe is ultra racist and generally intolerant of anything but the Christian white norm. I feel like Americans just have no idea.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 10:05     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

We probably can’t leave, but have decided not to have children given the current administration. That’s the best we can do.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 09:57     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

I am not an alarmist. I have never thought about living overseas before. But I have skills and my spidey sense is sounding alarms so I am getting everything ready to leave if necessary.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 09:52     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

I have a trans daughter who is happy right now in her first year of college. She’s an adult so was not affected by the health care EO (that is temporarily blocked). We had also changed all of her documents, including her passport just in case Trump won again. So, for us, I think it would depend on her. I’ve already encouraged her to consider graduate school programs outside of the US. I really can’t fathom the idea of not living in the US for the rest of my life. But I would consider leaving with the hope that things would change and get better. I’m not so sure, though.

Everyone is talking about Hitler, but what’s happening is a lot more like Hungary. It’s not this all at once takeover. It’s drips and drabs. The press is already being affected because companies are afraid to upset Trump.

Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 09:31     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

Look at Australia. Very receptive to immigrants - 31% population born overseas. Far from the troubles of the US and Europe (but with its own anxiety over China). Skills shortages. Universities accept lot of international students. More than 100,000 Americans already live in Australia. On the negative side, high COL and tough housing market.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 09:29     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve thought about leaving. Not because of Trump/Musk, but because liberals are destroying this country. Trump and Musk have actually given me hope for the future of my family.


Do you honestly think the moves this administration is making will be good for you financially or for national security? Serious question.


Yes. I already feel safer now that the border is closed and criminals are being removed. His economic policies will take time to erase the damage of Biden, but cutting wasteful spending, eliminating the bloated government bureaucracy, reducing regulations and extending his tax cuts will be good for the country.


What do you mean by “the country”? Tax cuts and reducing regulations will be good for businesses and the 1%, but terrible for the 99%, aka everybody else, who will see their taxes go up to pay for it.


Companies do want regulations nationally so they can adhere to one set of rules rather than 50 individual ones. But the bigger point is, what specific regulations are curbing business? Seems like corporations are generally doing pretty darned well in the US.


They want to be able to poison our air, water, food and medicine without government interference.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 09:05     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

Anonymous
Post 02/20/2025 09:05     Subject: Would you really leave America if Trump/Musk are scaring you?

It looks like emigration will be the new concern…

https://newrepublic.com/article/191421/trump-emigration-wave-brain-drain