Anonymous wrote:I think it’s more useful to have Russia as an ally. Leave the former Soviet republics to them (except the Baltics that have flown the coop way back in the 1990s) and start the new alliances.

Anonymous wrote:MAGA are sick. Does anyone remember that Russia invaded Ukraine? Remember the people fleeing for their lives? The children killed?

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Anonymous wrote:And now Trump is blaming Ukraine for the war starting.

Citation?

Anyone notice that posters leave comments and never provide sources, links, or citations? Just broad, unverified statements with zero evidence.

Major news organizations are broadcasting video of President Trump saying that Ukraine has had 3 years to end a war that they started.

Russia was the aggressor. Ukraine owes them nothing.

And if Ukraine is excluded from negotiations, they are not bound or beholden to any so-called "agreement" made. If the "agreement" says that Russia is to withdraw, great. But this nonsense about things like making restitution to Russia is absolute garbage and if I were Zelenskyy I'd be saying "go collect from Trump." If anything, Russia needs to be paying Ukraine reparations. Russia's invasion was unprovoked, illegal and unwarranted.

Ukraine can fight Russia without American taxpayer dollars and American taxpayer funded military arms. Let’s see how long they last.

Ukraine absolutely needs to be part of the negotiations.

But Europe as whole? No, freeloading time is over. If you want to be partners instead of lackeys then you should have put your money where your mouth is.

I would have zero problems if they want to step up and be equal partners. As it stands though NATO and the EU have been suckling off the teat of the U.S. since 1945.

Still waiting to see how the supposed “soft power” the U.S. gets from being Europe’s guard dog helps the citizens that are subsidizing their defense so they can have their cushy welfare states and look down at us for being “military obsessed”

Look at that, as soon as Trump scares the crap out of them, European leaders are now discussing a potential agreement to spend $700B on their militaries. In the end, it might have actually worked. Europeans crap on the US for healthcare, education, childcare, etc. Let's see how many wonderful social programs they have left now that they have to spend significant sums on protecting themselves. They'll have to raise taxes so much it'll suffocate everyone, or they'll have to cut social spending if they want to exist.

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We’re done being taken advantage of by our “allies”.

This was something predicted MANY administrations ago by secdef Gates. Now instead of the carrot, Europe gets the stick.

Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder: the UK didn't have an election from 1935-1945 during the war. And no one called that country a "dictatorship."

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Anonymous wrote:Word is NATO is done. The European members are drawing up plans to move on from the US. Look for a lot less coordination with European and base closures for US. This will reduce the US’s power in the World.

Trump better start planning where he will put those troop stationed over sea. The Korea, Japan, Philippines, New Zealand, Australia, etc are doing the same as the Europeans.

We are done as a world power. Brought to our knees by a third world country with a GPD equal to 7% of the US.

Only a few months ago shills we're still claiming we were hurting Russia on the cheap. Life comes at you fast.

What the f are you blathering on about? You are a moron. Go back to the corner and put on your dunce cap. The adults are talking.

My apologies if my post was less than clear as I'm literally rolling around laughing at how quickly this is going south for NATO.

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Anonymous wrote:And now Trump is blaming Ukraine for the war starting.

Citation?

Anyone notice that posters leave comments and never provide sources, links, or citations? Just broad, unverified statements with zero evidence.

Major news organizations are broadcasting video of President Trump saying that Ukraine has had 3 years to end a war that they started.

Russia was the aggressor. Ukraine owes them nothing.

And if Ukraine is excluded from negotiations, they are not bound or beholden to any so-called "agreement" made. If the "agreement" says that Russia is to withdraw, great. But this nonsense about things like making restitution to Russia is absolute garbage and if I were Zelenskyy I'd be saying "go collect from Trump." If anything, Russia needs to be paying Ukraine reparations. Russia's invasion was unprovoked, illegal and unwarranted.

Ukraine can fight Russia without American taxpayer dollars and American taxpayer funded military arms. Let’s see how long they last.

Ukraine absolutely needs to be part of the negotiations.

But Europe as whole? No, freeloading time is over. If you want to be partners instead of lackeys then you should have put your money where your mouth is.

I would have zero problems if they want to step up and be equal partners. As it stands though NATO and the EU have been suckling off the teat of the U.S. since 1945.

Still waiting to see how the supposed “soft power” the U.S. gets from being Europe’s guard dog helps the citizens that are subsidizing their defense so they can have their cushy welfare states and look down at us for being “military obsessed”

Look at that, as soon as Trump scares the crap out of them, European leaders are now discussing a potential agreement to spend $700B on their militaries. In the end, it might have actually worked. Europeans crap on the US for healthcare, education, childcare, etc. Let's see how many wonderful social programs they have left now that they have to spend significant sums on protecting themselves. They'll have to raise taxes so much it'll suffocate everyone, or they'll have to cut social spending if they want to exist.

+1

We’re done being taken advantage of by our “allies”.

This was something predicted MANY administrations ago by secdef Gates. Now instead of the carrot, Europe gets the stick.

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Anonymous wrote:And now Trump is blaming Ukraine for the war starting.

Citation?

Anyone notice that posters leave comments and never provide sources, links, or citations? Just broad, unverified statements with zero evidence.

Major news organizations are broadcasting video of President Trump saying that Ukraine has had 3 years to end a war that they started.

Russia was the aggressor. Ukraine owes them nothing.

And if Ukraine is excluded from negotiations, they are not bound or beholden to any so-called "agreement" made. If the "agreement" says that Russia is to withdraw, great. But this nonsense about things like making restitution to Russia is absolute garbage and if I were Zelenskyy I'd be saying "go collect from Trump." If anything, Russia needs to be paying Ukraine reparations. Russia's invasion was unprovoked, illegal and unwarranted.

Ukraine can fight Russia without American taxpayer dollars and American taxpayer funded military arms. Let’s see how long they last.

Ukraine absolutely needs to be part of the negotiations.

But Europe as whole? No, freeloading time is over. If you want to be partners instead of lackeys then you should have put your money where your mouth is.

I would have zero problems if they want to step up and be equal partners. As it stands though NATO and the EU have been suckling off the teat of the U.S. since 1945.

Still waiting to see how the supposed “soft power” the U.S. gets from being Europe’s guard dog helps the citizens that are subsidizing their defense so they can have their cushy welfare states and look down at us for being “military obsessed”

Look at that, as soon as Trump scares the crap out of them, European leaders are now discussing a potential agreement to spend $700B on their militaries. In the end, it might have actually worked. Europeans crap on the US for healthcare, education, childcare, etc. Let's see how many wonderful social programs they have left now that they have to spend significant sums on protecting themselves. They'll have to raise taxes so much it'll suffocate everyone, or they'll have to cut social spending if they want to exist.