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Anonymous wrote:Imagine how disappointed those south African refugees are going to be once they start living in the US.

No more cheap labor or household help for them, no more state provided healthcare. It's going to be eye opening, hope media follows their story and see how many of them stay.

People with "refugees welcome" signs will be flipping them the bird. They'll feel right at home.

"The idea that we would be somehow resettling Afrikaners at this point over other refugees who have been vetted and waiting in camps for months or even years, is unfathomable to us," Rowe, the church's youngest presiding bishop ever, said.

I really don't don't understand why this is the way it is, except that it seems to me that some people are more valuable than others. And in this case, it seems to be that people who are white seem to be more valuable than those who are people of color. And in any case, the way that this has happened, the decision making, the criteria that has gone into this just doesn't fit with our morals and the values that we hold as a church.

We're gonna pivot our work to work with immigration and migration on the ground. We can't be partners with the federal government at this point, but we will continue our work and our advocacy to the most vulnerable. That's what Jesus calls us to, to care for the poor and the most vulnerable. And we will continue that work.

Anonymous wrote:Imagine how disappointed those south African refugees are going to be once they start living in the US.

No more cheap labor or household help for them, no more state provided healthcare. It's going to be eye opening, hope media follows their story and see how many of them stay.

Anonymous wrote:I'm becoming very disappointed with DCUM.

There used to be intelligent discourse. These days there's a lot of rabble rousing and partisanship.

Come on, people. Most of today's immigration is comprised of people of color.

There isn't even an attempt to hold an intelligent discourse on the subject. You all are angry because these people are white. You are racists.

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Anonymous wrote:This seems convoluted. If they want more white people (yes, they do) why not just direct consular officers to start handing out immigrant visa in Poland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, etc....across eastern Europe?

Because it isn’t just a preference for white people in general. By importing white people from S. A. who claim to have been oppressed by blacks, they are trolling the libs. It’s about showing the libs that blacks can be racist too. That’s not what’s actually happening in South Africa where the white minority controls most of the land and generally has a higher standard of living, but that’s the narrative the Trump administration is going with right now. At the same time, they are threatening to revoke the TPS of Ukrainians who are here due to the war. Apparently they’re not the type of whites that Trump likes.

Why are they running out of South Africa if they have it so good?

Just throwing away hectares upon hectares of farmland they know how to manage to come to the US and start all over, having to learn different soils, plant varieties, animal breeds, pests, predators and weather?

Do you know that these people had farms in SA? And you say they throwing them away? So why are they throwing them away? I thought they are refugees because farms were being stolen from them. Also, why do you think they are going to farm in the US? Is the US government going to gift them farms????? Instead of giving them to Americans? If these people had money to buy US farms clearly rhey would not be refugees, they would have bought them and moved to the US with visas. Or do you think they are going to work on American farms like laborers? Do you seriously think a midwestern or Californian american farmers are going to pick a white Boer “refugee” to work in their farms in the place of hardworking Mexicans or Central American workers??

That's just it. Were they literally tossed off their own farmland in the middle of the night with all they could fit into a single suitcase, their family farmland ripped out from under them by the government? Or did they own land there and sell it off because they were being robbed and assaulted three times a month. Or were they receiving random pizza delivery at all hours? What's the real story?

In some ways that is irrelevant. They are in the country legally.
Trump and his refugee policy is not their fault. The world will always have more deserving people in need of refugee status and as a democracy that is an issue to raise with the government.
59 new people is a drop in the ocean

The symbolism is large.

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Anonymous wrote:This seems convoluted. If they want more white people (yes, they do) why not just direct consular officers to start handing out immigrant visa in Poland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, etc....across eastern Europe?

Because it isn’t just a preference for white people in general. By importing white people from S. A. who claim to have been oppressed by blacks, they are trolling the libs. It’s about showing the libs that blacks can be racist too. That’s not what’s actually happening in South Africa where the white minority controls most of the land and generally has a higher standard of living, but that’s the narrative the Trump administration is going with right now. At the same time, they are threatening to revoke the TPS of Ukrainians who are here due to the war. Apparently they’re not the type of whites that Trump likes.

Why are they running out of South Africa if they have it so good?

Just throwing away hectares upon hectares of farmland they know how to manage to come to the US and start all over, having to learn different soils, plant varieties, animal breeds, pests, predators and weather?

Do you know that these people had farms in SA? And you say they throwing them away? So why are they throwing them away? I thought they are refugees because farms were being stolen from them. Also, why do you think they are going to farm in the US? Is the US government going to gift them farms????? Instead of giving them to Americans? If these people had money to buy US farms clearly rhey would not be refugees, they would have bought them and moved to the US with visas. Or do you think they are going to work on American farms like laborers? Do you seriously think a midwestern or Californian american farmers are going to pick a white Boer “refugee” to work in their farms in the place of hardworking Mexicans or Central American workers??

What they are going to do and how much more of our money via services and goods will be given to them as yet more refugees is an interesting question and one I'm happy to entertain.

It has been said that they are farmers, and I see someone has posted a few videos about it upthread.

If they have it so good, why are they running out of SA?

Yes the SA government has passed a law saying the government can take land without any compensation.
Yes the third largest party is videoed in a stadium of thousands chanting "Kill the Boer" kill the farmers, shoot to kill.
Yes white SAfricans own something north of 90% of the farmland.

So.

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Anonymous wrote:This seems convoluted. If they want more white people (yes, they do) why not just direct consular officers to start handing out immigrant visa in Poland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, etc....across eastern Europe?

Because it isn’t just a preference for white people in general. By importing white people from S. A. who claim to have been oppressed by blacks, they are trolling the libs. It’s about showing the libs that blacks can be racist too. That’s not what’s actually happening in South Africa where the white minority controls most of the land and generally has a higher standard of living, but that’s the narrative the Trump administration is going with right now. At the same time, they are threatening to revoke the TPS of Ukrainians who are here due to the war. Apparently they’re not the type of whites that Trump likes.

Why are they running out of South Africa if they have it so good?

Just throwing away hectares upon hectares of farmland they know how to manage to come to the US and start all over, having to learn different soils, plant varieties, animal breeds, pests, predators and weather?

Do you know that these people had farms in SA? And you say they throwing them away? So why are they throwing them away? I thought they are refugees because farms were being stolen from them. Also, why do you think they are going to farm in the US? Is the US government going to gift them farms????? Instead of giving them to Americans? If these people had money to buy US farms clearly rhey would not be refugees, they would have bought them and moved to the US with visas. Or do you think they are going to work on American farms like laborers? Do you seriously think a midwestern or Californian american farmers are going to pick a white Boer “refugee” to work in their farms in the place of hardworking Mexicans or Central American workers??

That's just it. Were they literally tossed off their own farmland in the middle of the night with all they could fit into a single suitcase, their family farmland ripped out from under them by the government? Or did they own land there and sell it off because they were being robbed and assaulted three times a month. Or were they receiving random pizza delivery at all hours? What's the real story?

In some ways that is irrelevant. They are in the country legally.
Trump and his refugee policy is not their fault. The world will always have more deserving people in need of refugee status and as a democracy that is an issue to raise with the government.
59 new people is a drop in the ocean

The symbolism is large.

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Anonymous wrote:This seems convoluted. If they want more white people (yes, they do) why not just direct consular officers to start handing out immigrant visa in Poland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, etc....across eastern Europe?

Because it isn’t just a preference for white people in general. By importing white people from S. A. who claim to have been oppressed by blacks, they are trolling the libs. It’s about showing the libs that blacks can be racist too. That’s not what’s actually happening in South Africa where the white minority controls most of the land and generally has a higher standard of living, but that’s the narrative the Trump administration is going with right now. At the same time, they are threatening to revoke the TPS of Ukrainians who are here due to the war. Apparently they’re not the type of whites that Trump likes.

Why are they running out of South Africa if they have it so good?

Just throwing away hectares upon hectares of farmland they know how to manage to come to the US and start all over, having to learn different soils, plant varieties, animal breeds, pests, predators and weather?

Do you know that these people had farms in SA? And you say they throwing them away? So why are they throwing them away? I thought they are refugees because farms were being stolen from them. Also, why do you think they are going to farm in the US? Is the US government going to gift them farms????? Instead of giving them to Americans? If these people had money to buy US farms clearly rhey would not be refugees, they would have bought them and moved to the US with visas. Or do you think they are going to work on American farms like laborers? Do you seriously think a midwestern or Californian american farmers are going to pick a white Boer “refugee” to work in their farms in the place of hardworking Mexicans or Central American workers??

What they are going to do and how much more of our money via services and goods will be given to them as yet more refugees is an interesting question and one I'm happy to entertain.

It has been said that they are farmers, and I see someone has posted a few videos about it upthread.

If they have it so good, why are they running out of SA?

Yes the SA government has passed a law saying the government can take land without any compensation.
Yes the third largest party is videoed in a stadium of thousands chanting "Kill the Boer" kill the farmers, shoot to kill.
Yes white SAfricans own something north of 90% of the farmland.

So.

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Anonymous wrote:This seems convoluted. If they want more white people (yes, they do) why not just direct consular officers to start handing out immigrant visa in Poland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, etc....across eastern Europe?

Because it isn’t just a preference for white people in general. By importing white people from S. A. who claim to have been oppressed by blacks, they are trolling the libs. It’s about showing the libs that blacks can be racist too. That’s not what’s actually happening in South Africa where the white minority controls most of the land and generally has a higher standard of living, but that’s the narrative the Trump administration is going with right now. At the same time, they are threatening to revoke the TPS of Ukrainians who are here due to the war. Apparently they’re not the type of whites that Trump likes.

Why are they running out of South Africa if they have it so good?

Just throwing away hectares upon hectares of farmland they know how to manage to come to the US and start all over, having to learn different soils, plant varieties, animal breeds, pests, predators and weather?

Do you know that these people had farms in SA? And you say they throwing them away? So why are they throwing them away? I thought they are refugees because farms were being stolen from them. Also, why do you think they are going to farm in the US? Is the US government going to gift them farms????? Instead of giving them to Americans? If these people had money to buy US farms clearly rhey would not be refugees, they would have bought them and moved to the US with visas. Or do you think they are going to work on American farms like laborers? Do you seriously think a midwestern or Californian american farmers are going to pick a white Boer “refugee” to work in their farms in the place of hardworking Mexicans or Central American workers??

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Anonymous wrote:This seems convoluted. If they want more white people (yes, they do) why not just direct consular officers to start handing out immigrant visa in Poland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, etc....across eastern Europe?

Because it isn’t just a preference for white people in general. By importing white people from S. A. who claim to have been oppressed by blacks, they are trolling the libs. It’s about showing the libs that blacks can be racist too. That’s not what’s actually happening in South Africa where the white minority controls most of the land and generally has a higher standard of living, but that’s the narrative the Trump administration is going with right now. At the same time, they are threatening to revoke the TPS of Ukrainians who are here due to the war. Apparently they’re not the type of whites that Trump likes.

Why are they running out of South Africa if they have it so good?

Just throwing away hectares upon hectares of farmland they know how to manage to come to the US and start all over, having to learn different soils, plant varieties, animal breeds, pests, predators and weather?

Do you know that these people had farms in SA? And you say they throwing them away? So why are they throwing them away? I thought they are refugees because farms were being stolen from them. Also, why do you think they are going to farm in the US? Is the US government going to gift them farms????? Instead of giving them to Americans? If these people had money to buy US farms clearly rhey would not be refugees, they would have bought them and moved to the US with visas. Or do you think they are going to work on American farms like laborers? Do you seriously think a midwestern or Californian american farmers are going to pick a white Boer “refugee” to work in their farms in the place of hardworking Mexicans or Central American workers??

That's just it. Were they literally tossed off their own farmland in the middle of the night with all they could fit into a single suitcase, their family farmland ripped out from under them by the government? Or did they own land there and sell it off because they were being robbed and assaulted three times a month. Or were they receiving random pizza delivery at all hours? What's the real story?

In some ways that is irrelevant. They are in the country legally.
Trump and his refugee policy is not their fault. The world will always have more deserving people in need of refugee status and as a democracy that is an issue to raise with the government.
59 new people is a drop in the ocean

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Anonymous wrote:This seems convoluted. If they want more white people (yes, they do) why not just direct consular officers to start handing out immigrant visa in Poland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, etc....across eastern Europe?

Because it isn’t just a preference for white people in general. By importing white people from S. A. who claim to have been oppressed by blacks, they are trolling the libs. It’s about showing the libs that blacks can be racist too. That’s not what’s actually happening in South Africa where the white minority controls most of the land and generally has a higher standard of living, but that’s the narrative the Trump administration is going with right now. At the same time, they are threatening to revoke the TPS of Ukrainians who are here due to the war. Apparently they’re not the type of whites that Trump likes.

Why are they running out of South Africa if they have it so good?

Just throwing away hectares upon hectares of farmland they know how to manage to come to the US and start all over, having to learn different soils, plant varieties, animal breeds, pests, predators and weather?

Do you know that these people had farms in SA? And you say they throwing them away? So why are they throwing them away? I thought they are refugees because farms were being stolen from them. Also, why do you think they are going to farm in the US? Is the US government going to gift them farms????? Instead of giving them to Americans? If these people had money to buy US farms clearly rhey would not be refugees, they would have bought them and moved to the US with visas. Or do you think they are going to work on American farms like laborers? Do you seriously think a midwestern or Californian american farmers are going to pick a white Boer “refugee” to work in their farms in the place of hardworking Mexicans or Central American workers??

That's just it. Were they literally tossed off their own farmland in the middle of the night with all they could fit into a single suitcase, their family farmland ripped out from under them by the government? Or did they own land there and sell it off because they were being robbed and assaulted three times a month. Or were they receiving random pizza delivery at all hours? What's the real story?

In some ways that is irrelevant. They are in the country legally.
Trump and his refugee policy is not their fault. The world will always have more deserving people in need of refugee status and as a democracy that is an issue to raise with the government.
59 new people is a drop in the ocean