I’m still waiting for this to appear on Fox News, yet it hasn’t…

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Anonymous wrote:This completely screws GOP senators? What are they thinking? Do they really not care about their livelihoods? The livelihoods of their children? Truly mind boggling.

It’s not being reported on Fox News, so GOP senators are not being inundated by their Republican constituents. If a Democrat contacts them, they will just think they are paranoid.

Apparently Bessent (the new treasury secretary) approved of Musk's access to the treasury. Which is probably why they see it is legal and will be treated as legal until courts declare otherwise.

I'd also like to point out that MSNBC/CNN routinely do not cover live Trump press conferences or interviews or certain topics when Trump is talking, so you can't accuse Fox for being selective without being hypocritical.

Bessent does not have the authority to give Musk access to these accounts. Musk isn’t a federal govt employee. Musk doesn’t have any clearances, much less the type of top level one necessary for this access.

Trying to gain access to the Federal Treasury without Congressional Approval is committing acts against the Constitution and against the people of the U.S.

Such actions and violations are punishable crimes:
-Misuse of Public Funds (31 U.S. Code § 1301)
-Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) (18 U.S. Code § 1030)
-Breach of National Security (18 U.S. Code § 798)
-The Anti-Deficiency Act (31 U.S. Code §§ 1341-1342)

MUSK MUST BE ARRESTED immediately along with his entire team. The system needs to be completely scrubbed to find any code he added and change all access passwords.
THE SERIOUSNESS OF THUS CANNOT BE OVERSTATED.

Just because you write this doesn't mean it is true. You wish it to be true, but until a court rules (and if there are court cases, I do assume it will go all the way to SCOTUS who will side with the Executive Branch because the Constitution places the bureaucracy under the Executive Branch).

The optics are certainly not favorable. Telling the country that a duly elected president who campaigned on reforming the Federal bureaucracy is blocked from giving his people access to government computer systems in his own agencies that report to him.... good luck in selling that to the public.

There are ways to frame the optics to scare the crap out of the public on all sides that are truthful. This is what the democrats have been bad at. Remind them that they now have access to YOUR ssn, bank account numbers and they brought in buggy equipment. Point out how when it first started with the OPM emails, everyone got p0rn spam immediately thereafter so what are these guys going to do with YOUR bank account? The laws protecting cybersecurity and personal information were broken by teenagers, so now YOUR personal information is in the hands of other parties, like the Chinese. Like the freeze, YOUR social security check might get turned off in an instant. They overrode the procedures set up to keep YOU safe. Use the messaging skills of places like Fox, and these will still actually have facts.

Anonymous wrote:There's absolutely no reason that Musk and his merry band of high school computer nerds should have access to this payment system. None.

And he’s posting Twitter that he’s working over the weekend while the “enemy” isn’t to make whatever cuts he sees fit. They put beds in the Treasury so they never have to leave. Literally.

Anonymous wrote:Should we be moving our money to non US banks?

More like your flower bed

Anonymous wrote:Secretary Bessent has given Trump's minions access to the Treasury.

He can now stop Social Security, Medicare and veterans benefits.

Indiscriminately!

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Anonymous wrote:Wyden has sent a letter.
I’m not sure this is the moment for a civil conversation though.

https://www.finance.senate.gov/chairmans-news/wyden-demands-answers-following-report-of-musk-personnel-seeking-access-to-highly-sensitive-us-treasury-payments-system

Better than nothing.

He needs to go in person. As the ranking member of the finance committee. And bring cameras so nothing accidentally happens.

Anonymous wrote:What about federal pensions ? Will tax refunds be in Bitcoin ?

Omg in DOGE. As it is NTSB will only announce updates now on X.

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Anonymous wrote:This completely screws GOP senators? What are they thinking? Do they really not care about their livelihoods? The livelihoods of their children? Truly mind boggling.

It’s not being reported on Fox News, so GOP senators are not being inundated by their Republican constituents. If a Democrat contacts them, they will just think they are paranoid.

Apparently Bessent (the new treasury secretary) approved of Musk's access to the treasury. Which is probably why they see it is legal and will be treated as legal until courts declare otherwise.

I'd also like to point out that MSNBC/CNN routinely do not cover live Trump press conferences or interviews or certain topics when Trump is talking, so you can't accuse Fox for being selective without being hypocritical.

Bessent does not have the authority to give Musk access to these accounts. Musk isn’t a federal govt employee. Musk doesn’t have any clearances, much less the type of top level one necessary for this access.

Trying to gain access to the Federal Treasury without Congressional Approval is committing acts against the Constitution and against the people of the U.S.

Such actions and violations are punishable crimes:
-Misuse of Public Funds (31 U.S. Code § 1301)
-Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) (18 U.S. Code § 1030)
-Breach of National Security (18 U.S. Code § 798)
-The Anti-Deficiency Act (31 U.S. Code §§ 1341-1342)

MUSK MUST BE ARRESTED immediately along with his entire team. The system needs to be completely scrubbed to find any code he added and change all access passwords.
THE SERIOUSNESS OF THUS CANNOT BE OVERSTATED.

Kash Patel will never arrest Musk. He can be bought off. He’s in for ten years too.

Nor will Pam Bondi.
I mean maybe Trump could order Hegseth on him but no doubt Trump is compromised and for now looking the other way. Oh and where is Susie Wiles?!

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Anonymous wrote:This completely screws GOP senators? What are they thinking? Do they really not care about their livelihoods? The livelihoods of their children? Truly mind boggling.

It’s not being reported on Fox News, so GOP senators are not being inundated by their Republican constituents. If a Democrat contacts them, they will just think they are paranoid.

Apparently Bessent (the new treasury secretary) approved of Musk's access to the treasury. Which is probably why they see it is legal and will be treated as legal until courts declare otherwise.

I'd also like to point out that MSNBC/CNN routinely do not cover live Trump press conferences or interviews or certain topics when Trump is talking, so you can't accuse Fox for being selective without being hypocritical.

Bessent does not have the authority to give Musk access to these accounts. Musk isn’t a federal govt employee. Musk doesn’t have any clearances, much less the type of top level one necessary for this access.

Trying to gain access to the Federal Treasury without Congressional Approval is committing acts against the Constitution and against the people of the U.S.

Such actions and violations are punishable crimes:
-Misuse of Public Funds (31 U.S. Code § 1301)
-Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) (18 U.S. Code § 1030)
-Breach of National Security (18 U.S. Code § 798)
-The Anti-Deficiency Act (31 U.S. Code §§ 1341-1342)

MUSK MUST BE ARRESTED immediately along with his entire team. The system needs to be completely scrubbed to find any code he added and change all access passwords.
THE SERIOUSNESS OF THUS CANNOT BE OVERSTATED.

Kash Patel will never arrest Musk. He can be bought off. He’s in for ten years too.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m worried this is the start of Trump using funds like Social Security to punish anyone who he thinks stands against him. This is truly scary.

NO! You are thinking far far too small. It’s so much BIGGER THAN THIS!!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

Musk has full control over the entire federal banking system. He can do anything he wants with it. ANYTHING. One persons SS payment is NOT what thus us about.

You people really really don’t f’ing get it. It’s time to panic. It’s time to lose your sh!t and freak the F out. This is def con one.

Then tell us what it is about?

4B / day in cuts completely at the whim of the worlds richest man. He’s the captain now, it’s over folks.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m worried this is the start of Trump using funds like Social Security to punish anyone who he thinks stands against him. This is truly scary.

NO! You are thinking far far too small. It’s so much BIGGER THAN THIS!!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

Musk has full control over the entire federal banking system. He can do anything he wants with it. ANYTHING. One persons SS payment is NOT what thus us about.

You people really really don’t f’ing get it. It’s time to panic. It’s time to lose your sh!t and freak the F out. This is def con one.

Then tell us what it is about?

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Anonymous wrote:This completely screws GOP senators? What are they thinking? Do they really not care about their livelihoods? The livelihoods of their children? Truly mind boggling.

It’s not being reported on Fox News, so GOP senators are not being inundated by their Republican constituents. If a Democrat contacts them, they will just think they are paranoid.

Apparently Bessent (the new treasury secretary) approved of Musk's access to the treasury. Which is probably why they see it is legal and will be treated as legal until courts declare otherwise.

I'd also like to point out that MSNBC/CNN routinely do not cover live Trump press conferences or interviews or certain topics when Trump is talking, so you can't accuse Fox for being selective without being hypocritical.

Bessent does not have the authority to give Musk access to these accounts. Musk isn’t a federal govt employee. Musk doesn’t have any clearances, much less the type of top level one necessary for this access.

Trying to gain access to the Federal Treasury without Congressional Approval is committing acts against the Constitution and against the people of the U.S.

Such actions and violations are punishable crimes:
-Misuse of Public Funds (31 U.S. Code § 1301)
-Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) (18 U.S. Code § 1030)
-Breach of National Security (18 U.S. Code § 798)
-The Anti-Deficiency Act (31 U.S. Code §§ 1341-1342)

MUSK MUST BE ARRESTED immediately along with his entire team. The system needs to be completely scrubbed to find any code he added and change all access passwords.
THE SERIOUSNESS OF THUS CANNOT BE OVERSTATED.

I agree with you that what's happening is horrible, but Musk actually does have a top secret security clearance because of the SpaceX work.

As co-head of Doge with the biotech company founder Vivek Ramaswamy, Musk could be given access to classified information directly by the sitting president. Trump has not said publicly if he plans to do that.

While “top secret” is the government’s top level of security clearance, rising above “confidential” and “secret”, it does not automatically confer special authorization access to classified programs.

More than 400 SpaceX employees have permissions to access “sensitive compartmented information”, but not the company CEO, according to the outlet. A smaller number of employees have access to secrets the government deems even more sensitive called special access programs, including SpaceX’s spy satellite program, called Starshield.

As it stands, Musk is not entitled to enter SpaceX facilities where such classified work is done and discussed, and is denied access to classified elements of payloads. The company recently signed a $1.8bn classified contract with the national reconnaissance office, the agency that operates spy satellites, among other, pre-existing government contracts.

Above is from the Guardian in December, and he was told by Space-X lawyers not to even try getting complete access because of his drug use and contacts with foreign leaders and governments.

I did just check to see if my SS retirement came through. It did, but. . .

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That is actually legal and allowed, provided it's gone through review and isn't interfering with or in a conflict of interest with their work as a fed. For example I know of several federal employees who teach university courses, because they hold Ph.Ds and are subject matter experts in their field. They still work a full time schedule at their fed job, while teaching courses in the evening.

Not that MAGAs understand or care about reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Once Trump gets rid of the FDIC, each and every one of our bank accounts is at risk of being wiped out.

I know he was saying he wanted to get rid of it but that just sounds so absurd. Like he wants to collapse our economy.

Crash the economy, trump and oligarchy get bargain basement deals.