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The first thing some Trumper did in the Pentagon was take down Gen Milley's portrait that hangs in a hallway with all the other Joint Chiefs of Staff.
And you wonder why Biden pardoned him?

Hanging a picture is definitely the same as a criminal prosecution.

Going after Milley is insane. Trump and MAGA are mental.

The first thing some Trumper did in the Pentagon was take down Gen Milley's portrait that hangs in a hallway with all the other Joint Chiefs of Staff.
And you wonder why Biden pardoned him?

Hanging a picture is definitely the same as a criminal prosecution.

The first thing some Trumper did in the Pentagon was take down Gen Milley's portrait that hangs in a hallway with all the other Joint Chiefs of Staff.
And you wonder why Biden pardoned him?

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Anonymous wrote:Fauci’s only crime was telling Trump he was full of sh!t.

For over 400k a year and that government pension plus the profits off of his book - (Covid made him a household name) - Fauci has done very well for himself. So let's stop with the "public servant" violin - this man was not a public school teacher. The glorification of him is nauseating.

We know that Trump is jealous of smart people, but we can’t let him put people in jail because they hurt trumps feeewings.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fauci’s only crime was telling Trump he was full of sh!t.

For over 400k a year and that government pension plus the profits off of his book - (Covid made him a household name) - Fauci has done very well for himself. So let's stop with the "public servant" violin - this man was not a public school teacher. The glorification of him is nauseating.

There are easily hundreds of thousands of Americans alive today who wouldn't have been if it were not for Fauci's work.

Do you still believe someone dined on Bat Soup in Wuhan?

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Anonymous wrote:Fauci’s only crime was telling Trump he was full of sh!t.

For over 400k a year and that government pension plus the profits off of his book - (Covid made him a household name) - Fauci has done very well for himself. So let's stop with the "public servant" violin - this man was not a public school teacher. The glorification of him is nauseating.

He thinks he’s God. I’ll admit, his global depopulation goal was quite successful.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fauci’s only crime was telling Trump he was full of sh!t.

For over 400k a year and that government pension plus the profits off of his book - (Covid made him a household name) - Fauci has done very well for himself. So let's stop with the "public servant" violin - this man was not a public school teacher. The glorification of him is nauseating.

There are easily hundreds of thousands of Americans alive today who wouldn't have been if it were not for Fauci's work.

Anonymous wrote:Fauci’s only crime was telling Trump he was full of sh!t.

For over 400k a year and that government pension plus the profits off of his book - (Covid made him a household name) - Fauci has done very well for himself. So let's stop with the "public servant" violin - this man was not a public school teacher. The glorification of him is nauseating.

If it comes out in future investigations, whether under Trump or a future president, that people on the J6 Committee, or Fauci, sat on evidence or lied to preserve their position and withheld information from Americans, how would you feel about these pardons?

Just asking. Out of curiosity. I understand that some people strongly feel Fauci and J6 Committee members committed no wrong, but the pardons precludes any possibilities of potential prosecutions if it turned out they did, in fact, commit transgressions. Given both COVID and the role of the J6 committee, these would not be small transgressions but actions that, while small in its own way, had enormous impact on Americans, both in action and in behavior and beliefs.

That's why I'm bothered by these pardons. If they did nothing wrong, then there was no need for pardons. If they did do something wrong, they should not be protected by pardons.

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Anonymous wrote:Why pardon him if he did nothing wrong?

Its a preemptive pardon to try to prevent ridiculous harassment. If I am the recipeints, I make it clear I don't accept it because nothing will stop the harassment regardless.

Liz Cheney and the Jan 6 committee highlighted people who sought pardons from Trump, saying this was a sign of guilt.

Anonymous wrote:It depends on whether you want to take a gamble on how much Trump says is hot air, and how much either he or his minions are going to try to act on the BS rantings on retribution. These three are three people who did their jobs faithfully - and some of them I don’t actually like - and know-nothings like some who commented above would be happy if these people were investigated again and again, especially if some of the nominees get into power.

If I were these three, I’m not sure I would accept any pardon, but lately you cannot rely upon the truth and upholding the principles of law and the Constitution to have the right things happen.

As to your last point … lately??? Lately?

Have you never heard of red scares and McCarthyism/ Hooverism, friend?

Have you never encountered an individual railroaded by our criminal justice system?

The principles of law and the Constitution have been distorted and exploited by our political class for a very long time, not just the past ten years.

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Anonymous wrote:Innocent people do not need pardons.

This is just yet another example of this lawless administration. Commit crimes? Friend of Biden? Part of the resistance? Get a pardon so you will not be held accountable.

Innocent people don’t need their lives ruined and their savings drained by nuisance, harassment investigations. Biden knows Trump will do this and he did the right thing by preventing it.

It's nice that you are finally coming to this realization.
But, if you think we won't uncover the crimes these people committed..... you are wrong.
They will be forced to testify since they no longer have 5th Amendment protections. And, if they are subpoenaed, and don't show, well, we have every reason to charge them with obstruction.

So we can start with Jim Jordan and proceed through the list of dozens of Trump associates and administration figures who simply ignored subpoenas. Cool.

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Anonymous wrote:good point. The dumb thing is these pardons may not be constitutionally valid and the sheer number could force this issue.

Well. This might pose a huge problem when Trump issues over a thousand pardons, today Jan. 20, 2025, to Jan. 6 insurrectionists.

If Biden's pardons are deemed unconstitutional and thrown out then so are all of Trump's. Can't have it both ways.

J6 protesters have already been thrown in jail, silly.

Sentences would be commuted, they'd be released, etc. Which is a disgrace. We saw with our own eyes the violent cop-hating Proud Boys savagely beating Capitol Police and smashing and destroying the property of the United States. Those lunatics are not fit to roam freely in civil society.

Anonymous wrote:He also pardoned his family members. Yeah, no guilt there. Most corrupt man

Right. Trump is corrupt who pardoned his daughter's father-in-law. Remember, presidents have immunity.