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Anonymous wrote:So what you're really saying is that you can only count on McKinley Tech. Walls is a total crack shoot with bad odds. Banneker isn't much better and is weak on STEM (doesn't teach AP Chem or Bio every year or teach BC Calc at all). McKinley Tech isn't very diverse or high-performing. Pass.

The good news is you can take YOUR kid where you feel is best.
I'm not sure of the objective here. You sound a little upset at your inability to convince others that their choices are best for their kids.
Kids represent their families. The folks in Arlington can afford to live in Arlington. They can afford Arlington because they are college-educated with advanced degrees that allow them to earn a high salary. That high education is reflected in their households and as a result, their children fare well in school. Arlington schools can offer more advanced courses because most of the student population has the skills to succeed in those advanced classes ( read the previous sentence about well-educated households). In DC, kids come from all over with many coming from households without parents or parents with minimal education. This places the load on the schools to advance them. So schools that can take kids from the bottom to the top are the real heroes. Arlington schools and the like are maintaining the status quo. I am impressed with GROWTH.

No thanks. I don’t care about growth with the bottom of the barrel moving a small incremental pace up.

I care about my high performing kid being with a majority of high performing kids so that the teacher can actually teach advanced programming.

BTW look at the scores of middle and high school kids in very poor performing schools. The numbers actually decline in proficiency, not increase. Doesn’t support how DCPS improves outcomes.

Stop blabbing about your “high performing kid.” nobody cares. You don’t want a DCPS MS, fine!

You might not since your kid is not high performing but others do.

BTW, I don’t see you refuting anything above which is the reality of the situation in DCPS MS. So no surprises many families seek the more popular charters which does have a critical group of high performers.

Tell me all about your high performing 11 year old. Lol.

PP here. You seem really ignorant. Data is there to know where your kid stands, report cards, teachers feedback.

Yes my kid is high performing who scores 98% plus on standardized testing, etc, great report cards, teachers comments, etc…

Your kid it sounds like is not. If you choose to put your average, grade level kid at SH so he can be at the top of the heap since the overwhelming majority are below grade level, that’s your prerogative.

I want my kid in classes that challenge him, not be bored and coast. I actually want him to be with kids smarter than him so he has to actually work hard and reach his full potential.

honestly why tf are you here? Your kid is so advanced yet you cannot read a room. clearly all you want to do is brag about how your kid is too good for the local MS and how wonderful a parent you are. whoop dee doo!

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Anonymous wrote:So what you're really saying is that you can only count on McKinley Tech. Walls is a total crack shoot with bad odds. Banneker isn't much better and is weak on STEM (doesn't teach AP Chem or Bio every year or teach BC Calc at all). McKinley Tech isn't very diverse or high-performing. Pass.

The good news is you can take YOUR kid where you feel is best.
I'm not sure of the objective here. You sound a little upset at your inability to convince others that their choices are best for their kids.
Kids represent their families. The folks in Arlington can afford to live in Arlington. They can afford Arlington because they are college-educated with advanced degrees that allow them to earn a high salary. That high education is reflected in their households and as a result, their children fare well in school. Arlington schools can offer more advanced courses because most of the student population has the skills to succeed in those advanced classes ( read the previous sentence about well-educated households). In DC, kids come from all over with many coming from households without parents or parents with minimal education. This places the load on the schools to advance them. So schools that can take kids from the bottom to the top are the real heroes. Arlington schools and the like are maintaining the status quo. I am impressed with GROWTH.

No thanks. I don’t care about growth with the bottom of the barrel moving a small incremental pace up.

I care about my high performing kid being with a majority of high performing kids so that the teacher can actually teach advanced programming.

BTW look at the scores of middle and high school kids in very poor performing schools. The numbers actually decline in proficiency, not increase. Doesn’t support how DCPS improves outcomes.

Stop blabbing about your “high performing kid.” nobody cares. You don’t want a DCPS MS, fine!

You might not since your kid is not high performing but others do.

BTW, I don’t see you refuting anything above which is the reality of the situation in DCPS MS. So no surprises many families seek the more popular charters which does have a critical group of high performers.

Tell me all about your high performing 11 year old. Lol.

PP here. You seem really ignorant. Data is there to know where your kid stands, report cards, teachers feedback.

Yes my kid is high performing who scores 98% plus on standardized testing, etc, great report cards, teachers comments, etc…

Your kid it sounds like is not. If you choose to put your average, grade level kid at SH so he can be at the top of the heap since the overwhelming majority are below grade level, that’s your prerogative.

I want my kid in classes that challenge him, not be bored and coast. I actually want him to be with kids smarter than him so he has to actually work hard and reach his full potential.

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Anonymous wrote:So what you're really saying is that you can only count on McKinley Tech. Walls is a total crack shoot with bad odds. Banneker isn't much better and is weak on STEM (doesn't teach AP Chem or Bio every year or teach BC Calc at all). McKinley Tech isn't very diverse or high-performing. Pass.

The good news is you can take YOUR kid where you feel is best.
I'm not sure of the objective here. You sound a little upset at your inability to convince others that their choices are best for their kids.
Kids represent their families. The folks in Arlington can afford to live in Arlington. They can afford Arlington because they are college-educated with advanced degrees that allow them to earn a high salary. That high education is reflected in their households and as a result, their children fare well in school. Arlington schools can offer more advanced courses because most of the student population has the skills to succeed in those advanced classes ( read the previous sentence about well-educated households). In DC, kids come from all over with many coming from households without parents or parents with minimal education. This places the load on the schools to advance them. So schools that can take kids from the bottom to the top are the real heroes. Arlington schools and the like are maintaining the status quo. I am impressed with GROWTH.

No thanks. I don’t care about growth with the bottom of the barrel moving a small incremental pace up.

I care about my high performing kid being with a majority of high performing kids so that the teacher can actually teach advanced programming.

BTW look at the scores of middle and high school kids in very poor performing schools. The numbers actually decline in proficiency, not increase. Doesn’t support how DCPS improves outcomes.

Stop blabbing about your “high performing kid.” nobody cares. You don’t want a DCPS MS, fine!

You might not since your kid is not high performing but others do.

BTW, I don’t see you refuting anything above which is the reality of the situation in DCPS MS. So no surprises many families seek the more popular charters which does have a critical group of high performers.

Tell me all about your high performing 11 year old. Lol.

PP here. You seem really ignorant. Data is there to know where your kid stands, report cards, teachers feedback.

Yes my kid is high performing who scores 98% plus on standardized testing, etc, great report cards, teachers comments, etc…

Your kid it sounds like is not. If you choose to put your average, grade level kid at SH so he can be at the top of the heap since the overwhelming majority are below grade level, that’s your prerogative.

I want my kid in classes that challenge him, not be bored and coast. I actually want him to be with kids smarter than him so he has to actually work hard and reach his full potential.

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Anonymous wrote:The frustrating thing about SH is that it really is as simple as DCPS offering tracked classes in science and social studies too and they’d triple their IB buy-in. I am at a feeder where most parents want to send their kids to SH, which is mere blocks from where most of us live. Increasingly, people are sending their kids, so I’m hopeful the numbers game will be self-fulfilling eventually (as it has been at our feeder and many other ESes in the area).

I don’t think any DCPS MS has tracked science and social studies.

Or very good appealing tracked English. Honors English at SH looks like minimally acceptable grade level English. The only real challenge in DCPS middle schools is for math. We just don't have very good public middle schools here as compared to the burbs, with or without charter lottery luck.

“Honors” math at SH is grade level math. It’s not advanced.

This. Compare that to Basis or DCI where kids can be in classes 2 grade levels higher in math.

You could argue that if DCI was more rigorous then people would self-select out. The truth is kids and parents don't apply to BASIS unless they feel they can be competitive and are willing to work hard.

In some cases 3 levels higher at Basis but the normal progression is already advanced.

Basis has the highest math scores in DC but DCI is really low—most students at DCI are below grade level in math.

CAPE Math 4 or 5

Basis 68.4%
DCI 26.5%

The Basis is tiring. The school self selects. If DCI self selects then sure their scores would be higher. Also the kids at Basis takes PARCC levels behind the math they are taking. No other schools manipulated the testing like this.

Lastly, that is the whole point of tracking is that the more advance kids would be in separate, more challenging classes.

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Anonymous wrote:So what you're really saying is that you can only count on McKinley Tech. Walls is a total crack shoot with bad odds. Banneker isn't much better and is weak on STEM (doesn't teach AP Chem or Bio every year or teach BC Calc at all). McKinley Tech isn't very diverse or high-performing. Pass.

The good news is you can take YOUR kid where you feel is best.
I'm not sure of the objective here. You sound a little upset at your inability to convince others that their choices are best for their kids.
Kids represent their families. The folks in Arlington can afford to live in Arlington. They can afford Arlington because they are college-educated with advanced degrees that allow them to earn a high salary. That high education is reflected in their households and as a result, their children fare well in school. Arlington schools can offer more advanced courses because most of the student population has the skills to succeed in those advanced classes ( read the previous sentence about well-educated households). In DC, kids come from all over with many coming from households without parents or parents with minimal education. This places the load on the schools to advance them. So schools that can take kids from the bottom to the top are the real heroes. Arlington schools and the like are maintaining the status quo. I am impressed with GROWTH.

No thanks. I don’t care about growth with the bottom of the barrel moving a small incremental pace up.

I care about my high performing kid being with a majority of high performing kids so that the teacher can actually teach advanced programming.

BTW look at the scores of middle and high school kids in very poor performing schools. The numbers actually decline in proficiency, not increase. Doesn’t support how DCPS improves outcomes.

Stop blabbing about your “high performing kid.” nobody cares. You don’t want a DCPS MS, fine!

You might not since your kid is not high performing but others do.

BTW, I don’t see you refuting anything above which is the reality of the situation in DCPS MS. So no surprises many families seek the more popular charters which does have a critical group of high performers.

Tell me all about your high performing 11 year old. Lol.

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Anonymous wrote:The frustrating thing about SH is that it really is as simple as DCPS offering tracked classes in science and social studies too and they’d triple their IB buy-in. I am at a feeder where most parents want to send their kids to SH, which is mere blocks from where most of us live. Increasingly, people are sending their kids, so I’m hopeful the numbers game will be self-fulfilling eventually (as it has been at our feeder and many other ESes in the area).

I don’t think any DCPS MS has tracked science and social studies.

Or very good appealing tracked English. Honors English at SH looks like minimally acceptable grade level English. The only real challenge in DCPS middle schools is for math. We just don't have very good public middle schools here as compared to the burbs, with or without charter lottery luck.

“Honors” math at SH is grade level math. It’s not advanced.

This. Compare that to Basis or DCI where kids can be in classes 2 grade levels higher in math.

In some cases 3 levels higher at Basis but the normal progression is already advanced.

Basis has the highest math scores in DC but DCI is really low—most students at DCI are below grade level in math.

CAPE Math 4 or 5

Basis 68.4%
DCI 26.5%

The Basis is tiring. The school self selects. If DCI self selects then sure their scores would be higher. Also the kids at Basis takes PARCC levels behind the math they are taking. No other schools manipulated the testing like this.

Lastly, that is the whole point of tracking is that the more advance kids would be in separate, more challenging classes.

Here are the things I wish SH and EH and John Francis had:

A real science curriculum (all schools currently testing below 10 percent proficiency on science, and the teacher who chimed in said the DCPS curriculum is off)

The requirement to read full length novels

More handwritten note taking and assignments

Math is fine. John Francis needs to start offering geometry by 8th.

BASIS is a deeply imperfect and weird school, but it does all of the above things well. If DCPS schools in this middle part of the city did too, you would see a hugely increased interest in those middle schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The frustrating thing about SH is that it really is as simple as DCPS offering tracked classes in science and social studies too and they’d triple their IB buy-in. I am at a feeder where most parents want to send their kids to SH, which is mere blocks from where most of us live. Increasingly, people are sending their kids, so I’m hopeful the numbers game will be self-fulfilling eventually (as it has been at our feeder and many other ESes in the area).

I don’t think any DCPS MS has tracked science and social studies.

Or very good appealing tracked English. Honors English at SH looks like minimally acceptable grade level English. The only real challenge in DCPS middle schools is for math. We just don't have very good public middle schools here as compared to the burbs, with or without charter lottery luck.

“Honors” math at SH is grade level math. It’s not advanced.

This. Compare that to Basis or DCI where kids can be in classes 2 grade levels higher in math.

In some cases 3 levels higher at Basis but the normal progression is already advanced.

Basis has the highest math scores in DC but DCI is really low—most students at DCI are below grade level in math.

CAPE Math 4 or 5

Basis 68.4%
DCI 26.5%

The Basis is tiring. The school self selects. If DCI self selects then sure their scores would be higher. Also the kids at Basis takes PARCC levels behind the math they are taking. No other schools manipulated the testing like this.

Lastly, that is the whole point of tracking is that the more advance kids would be in separate, more challenging classes.

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Anonymous wrote:The frustrating thing about SH is that it really is as simple as DCPS offering tracked classes in science and social studies too and they’d triple their IB buy-in. I am at a feeder where most parents want to send their kids to SH, which is mere blocks from where most of us live. Increasingly, people are sending their kids, so I’m hopeful the numbers game will be self-fulfilling eventually (as it has been at our feeder and many other ESes in the area).

I don’t think any DCPS MS has tracked science and social studies.

Or very good appealing tracked English. Honors English at SH looks like minimally acceptable grade level English. The only real challenge in DCPS middle schools is for math. We just don't have very good public middle schools here as compared to the burbs, with or without charter lottery luck.

“Honors” math at SH is grade level math. It’s not advanced.

This. Compare that to Basis or DCI where kids can be in classes 2 grade levels higher in math.

In some cases 3 levels higher at Basis but the normal progression is already advanced.

Basis has the highest math scores in DC but DCI is really low—most students at DCI are below grade level in math.

CAPE Math 4 or 5

Basis 68.4%
DCI 26.5%

The Basis is tiring. The school self selects. If DCI self selects then sure their scores would be higher. Also the kids at Basis takes PARCC levels behind the math they are taking. No other schools manipulated the testing like this.

Lastly, that is the whole point of tracking is that the more advance kids would be in separate, more challenging classes.

Here are the things I wish SH and EH and John Francis had:

A real science curriculum (all schools currently testing below 10 percent proficiency on science, and the teacher who chimed in said the DCPS curriculum is off)

The requirement to read full length novels

More handwritten note taking and assignments

Math is fine. John Francis needs to start offering geometry by 8th.

BASIS is a deeply imperfect and weird school, but it does all of the above things well. If DCPS schools in this middle part of the city did too, you would see a hugely increased interest in those middle schools.

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Anonymous wrote:The frustrating thing about SH is that it really is as simple as DCPS offering tracked classes in science and social studies too and they’d triple their IB buy-in. I am at a feeder where most parents want to send their kids to SH, which is mere blocks from where most of us live. Increasingly, people are sending their kids, so I’m hopeful the numbers game will be self-fulfilling eventually (as it has been at our feeder and many other ESes in the area).

I don’t think any DCPS MS has tracked science and social studies.

Or very good appealing tracked English. Honors English at SH looks like minimally acceptable grade level English. The only real challenge in DCPS middle schools is for math. We just don't have very good public middle schools here as compared to the burbs, with or without charter lottery luck.

“Honors” math at SH is grade level math. It’s not advanced.

This. Compare that to Basis or DCI where kids can be in classes 2 grade levels higher in math.

In some cases 3 levels higher at Basis but the normal progression is already advanced.

Basis has the highest math scores in DC but DCI is really low—most students at DCI are below grade level in math.

CAPE Math 4 or 5

Basis 68.4%
DCI 26.5%

The Basis is tiring. The school self selects. If DCI self selects then sure their scores would be higher. Also the kids at Basis takes PARCC levels behind the math they are taking. No other schools manipulated the testing like this.

Lastly, that is the whole point of tracking is that the more advance kids would be in separate, more challenging classes.

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Anonymous wrote:The frustrating thing about SH is that it really is as simple as DCPS offering tracked classes in science and social studies too and they’d triple their IB buy-in. I am at a feeder where most parents want to send their kids to SH, which is mere blocks from where most of us live. Increasingly, people are sending their kids, so I’m hopeful the numbers game will be self-fulfilling eventually (as it has been at our feeder and many other ESes in the area).

I don’t think any DCPS MS has tracked science and social studies.

Or very good appealing tracked English. Honors English at SH looks like minimally acceptable grade level English. The only real challenge in DCPS middle schools is for math. We just don't have very good public middle schools here as compared to the burbs, with or without charter lottery luck.

“Honors” math at SH is grade level math. It’s not advanced.

This. Compare that to Basis or DCI where kids can be in classes 2 grade levels higher in math.

In some cases 3 levels higher at Basis but the normal progression is already advanced.

Basis has the highest math scores in DC but DCI is really low—most students at DCI are below grade level in math.

CAPE Math 4 or 5

Basis 68.4%
DCI 26.5%

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Anonymous wrote:So what you're really saying is that you can only count on McKinley Tech. Walls is a total crack shoot with bad odds. Banneker isn't much better and is weak on STEM (doesn't teach AP Chem or Bio every year or teach BC Calc at all). McKinley Tech isn't very diverse or high-performing. Pass.

The good news is you can take YOUR kid where you feel is best.
I'm not sure of the objective here. You sound a little upset at your inability to convince others that their choices are best for their kids.
Kids represent their families. The folks in Arlington can afford to live in Arlington. They can afford Arlington because they are college-educated with advanced degrees that allow them to earn a high salary. That high education is reflected in their households and as a result, their children fare well in school. Arlington schools can offer more advanced courses because most of the student population has the skills to succeed in those advanced classes ( read the previous sentence about well-educated households). In DC, kids come from all over with many coming from households without parents or parents with minimal education. This places the load on the schools to advance them. So schools that can take kids from the bottom to the top are the real heroes. Arlington schools and the like are maintaining the status quo. I am impressed with GROWTH.

No thanks. I don’t care about growth with the bottom of the barrel moving a small incremental pace up.

I care about my high performing kid being with a majority of high performing kids so that the teacher can actually teach advanced programming.

BTW look at the scores of middle and high school kids in very poor performing schools. The numbers actually decline in proficiency, not increase. Doesn’t support how DCPS improves outcomes.

Stop blabbing about your “high performing kid.” nobody cares. You don’t want a DCPS MS, fine!

You might not since your kid is not high performing but others do.

BTW, I don’t see you refuting anything above which is the reality of the situation in DCPS MS. So no surprises many families seek the more popular charters which does have a critical group of high performers.

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Anonymous wrote:The frustrating thing about SH is that it really is as simple as DCPS offering tracked classes in science and social studies too and they’d triple their IB buy-in. I am at a feeder where most parents want to send their kids to SH, which is mere blocks from where most of us live. Increasingly, people are sending their kids, so I’m hopeful the numbers game will be self-fulfilling eventually (as it has been at our feeder and many other ESes in the area).

I don’t think any DCPS MS has tracked science and social studies.

Or very good appealing tracked English. Honors English at SH looks like minimally acceptable grade level English. The only real challenge in DCPS middle schools is for math. We just don't have very good public middle schools here as compared to the burbs, with or without charter lottery luck.

“Honors” math at SH is grade level math. It’s not advanced.

This. Compare that to Basis or DCI where kids can be in classes 2 grade levels higher in math.

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Anonymous wrote:The frustrating thing about SH is that it really is as simple as DCPS offering tracked classes in science and social studies too and they’d triple their IB buy-in. I am at a feeder where most parents want to send their kids to SH, which is mere blocks from where most of us live. Increasingly, people are sending their kids, so I’m hopeful the numbers game will be self-fulfilling eventually (as it has been at our feeder and many other ESes in the area).

I don’t think any DCPS MS has tracked science and social studies.

Or very good appealing tracked English. Honors English at SH looks like minimally acceptable grade level English. The only real challenge in DCPS middle schools is for math. We just don't have very good public middle schools here as compared to the burbs, with or without charter lottery luck.

“Honors” math at SH is grade level math. It’s not advanced.

This. Compare that to Basis or DCI where kids can be in classes 2 grade levels higher in math.