Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 18:28     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:The 90 day limit doesn't apply, as it is not a systematic removal of voters. It is removal of people not eligible to vote, never eligible to vote. They are not 'voters'.


JFC this is a stupid argument. The limit is there exactly because there are lots of ways to make a mistake and kick someone off who is a citizen. People have talked on this thread about several ways that can happen.

But here’s my deal— we let Youngkin do this and if he makes any mistakes— kicks any citizens off— then he resigns immediately and so does everyone else who participated in this process. Maybe make him pay a $1000 fine to each citizen kicked off too.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 18:21     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

The 90 day limit doesn't apply, as it is not a systematic removal of voters. It is removal of people not eligible to vote, never eligible to vote. They are not 'voters'.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 16:17     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/19983259/

Guess which areas has most number/highest rates of purged voter? HINT - color blue.


You mean the highest number of people who indicated they were not legal citizens on their voter registration? Oh. Quelle surprise.


I’m a legal citizen for over 50 years (from birth). I was at the DMV to get my license renewed because it was about to expire. At the end of the transaction I was told I needed to answer a few questions before paying and to indicate my answers on the screen.

First question was something like: DMV would like to re-confirm your voter registration information and in order for the screen to go forward you had to click on the only option, there wasn’t a no. And why would you think this was some sneaky plot because you’re often asked on similar pads at other places to reconfirm your email or phone number or if you want your receipt emailed to you or to take an annoying survey. It happens everywhere and this seemed exactly the same. And then the questions for weird, like asking the same thing over and over but worded differently.

I have never been a noncitizen, I have never indicated otherwise. I’ve been registered to vote since I was 18 and had a license since I was 16. For whatever crazy reason, I was flagged. This is some sort rigged nut job shenanigans. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone.


The voter registration process at the DMV is very flawed. They need to fix this because it is very easy for people to unintentionally register to vote or cancel their voter registration while getting their drivers licenses. The VA DMV just asks people if they want to register to vote by checking a yes or no box on the screen, but the DMV staff don't verbally confirm whether you are a US citizen or not. People who don't know any better or that have limited English proficiency might register to vote accidentally and then get deported for it. The question about other you want to register to vote without confirming citizenship status first can easily misinterpreted by people as an indication that they are in fact eligible to vote.


I’m not an idiot. I can speak English. I was born and raised in Virginia. I had already proven my citizenship because I was getting a Real ID and literally had there on the counter my birth certificate, my passport, my social security card, etc. The questions appeared at the very end, asking me to reconfirm. I didn’t understand because I registered to vote in 1993 and have been registered ever since. The DMV people didn’t understand either and the system kept refusing to allow me to skip. Maybe it was a hiccup, I don’t know. But you’re wrong if you think the only people who are getting flagged are ESL recent citizens or undocumented. I am in Fairfax. This was in September.

Oh the pp you’re talking to didn’t misunderstand you or the process. The idea that Democrats like you and naturalized citizens might be deprived their constitutional right to vote gives them the warm fuzzies. The fascism is their safe space.


I didn't say your were an idiot or that you did anything stupid. I am just saying that the voter registration process at the DMV is flawed and it is far to easy for people to mess up their voter registration when getting their drivers license.


But I never needed to register to vote when I went to the DMV because I have continuously been registered, in the Commonwealth of Virginia, since the early 90s. It has never lapsed. So it makes no sense that I was given this question at all, because I was already registered.

I don't know about people on a green card or undocumented. But why would I be asked about getting me registered to vote, WHEN I'M ALREADY REGISTERED? I was told it was to re-confirm my registration. Reconfirm a 30+ year registration?
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 15:49     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/19983259/

Guess which areas has most number/highest rates of purged voter? HINT - color blue.


You mean the highest number of people who indicated they were not legal citizens on their voter registration? Oh. Quelle surprise.


I’m a legal citizen for over 50 years (from birth). I was at the DMV to get my license renewed because it was about to expire. At the end of the transaction I was told I needed to answer a few questions before paying and to indicate my answers on the screen.

First question was something like: DMV would like to re-confirm your voter registration information and in order for the screen to go forward you had to click on the only option, there wasn’t a no. And why would you think this was some sneaky plot because you’re often asked on similar pads at other places to reconfirm your email or phone number or if you want your receipt emailed to you or to take an annoying survey. It happens everywhere and this seemed exactly the same. And then the questions for weird, like asking the same thing over and over but worded differently.

I have never been a noncitizen, I have never indicated otherwise. I’ve been registered to vote since I was 18 and had a license since I was 16. For whatever crazy reason, I was flagged. This is some sort rigged nut job shenanigans. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone.


The voter registration process at the DMV is very flawed. They need to fix this because it is very easy for people to unintentionally register to vote or cancel their voter registration while getting their drivers licenses. The VA DMV just asks people if they want to register to vote by checking a yes or no box on the screen, but the DMV staff don't verbally confirm whether you are a US citizen or not. People who don't know any better or that have limited English proficiency might register to vote accidentally and then get deported for it. The question about other you want to register to vote without confirming citizenship status first can easily misinterpreted by people as an indication that they are in fact eligible to vote.


I’m not an idiot. I can speak English. I was born and raised in Virginia. I had already proven my citizenship because I was getting a Real ID and literally had there on the counter my birth certificate, my passport, my social security card, etc. The questions appeared at the very end, asking me to reconfirm. I didn’t understand because I registered to vote in 1993 and have been registered ever since. The DMV people didn’t understand either and the system kept refusing to allow me to skip. Maybe it was a hiccup, I don’t know. But you’re wrong if you think the only people who are getting flagged are ESL recent citizens or undocumented. I am in Fairfax. This was in September.

Oh the pp you’re talking to didn’t misunderstand you or the process. The idea that Democrats like you and naturalized citizens might be deprived their constitutional right to vote gives them the warm fuzzies. The fascism is their safe space.


I didn't say your were an idiot or that you did anything stupid. I am just saying that the voter registration process at the DMV is flawed and it is far to easy for people to mess up their voter registration when getting their drivers license.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 14:04     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/19983259/

Guess which areas has most number/highest rates of purged voter? HINT - color blue.


You mean the highest number of people who indicated they were not legal citizens on their voter registration? Oh. Quelle surprise.


Again (and it’s CLEAR you don’t understand the lack of link between the DMV and USCIS). A drivers license is valid for EIGHT YEARS. As a Green Card holder, I can get an EIGHT YEAR drivers license. I can NATURALISE 3-5 years AFTER I get my DL. My DL will STILL BE VALID. DMV records (which has NOTHING TO DO WITH VOTING) says I am not a citizen. USCIS (the definitive body on immigration) says that I AM a USC. DMV declarations should not be used to determine who is or is not a citizen.

So three years ago, I would have answered that I am NOT a USC. Today I AM a USC.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 13:46     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:Yes it would have been a nonstory if Youngkin did it a year ago which is exactly why he did when he did.

I think the appeals court noted he did this the very first day he was not allowed to do it— if he had done it one day earlier he’d have been outside the 90 day cooling off period and no problem.

But because R’s care more about getting people ginned up about the appearance of a problem than whether there is a problem or solution he did it this way so he could make all his stupid speeches and go to court pretending to care about the issue.

SMDH


+1 Exactly

He knowingly broke the law and is now engaging in a performance about how terrible it is that DOJ is enforcing the law.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 13:38     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

It's all performative. The language of the statute is clear and unambiguous, as found unanimously by the appellate court. And all this for 1600 POSSIBLY fraudulent registrations.

Youngkin's appeal to the USC has nothing to do with protecting the people of Virginia and EVERYTHING to do with advancing a bullshit narrative.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 13:38     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If we had Voter IDs....like most all other countries...this would be a moot issue. Just saying.


Non-citizens are eligible for IDs. So that doesn't solve the issue.

Republicans are adamantly opposed to a national ID card that could be used to validate citizenship. Gee, I wonder why? (answer: voter suppression)


We already have ID like passports. We aren’t the party that doesn’t support voter ID!!!


Right...

Neither of my parents had passports. Most of my relatives outside of my immediate family do not have passports.

Why do you object to a national ID card? Everyone eligible for one would have one. There is no need to have multiple documents - just one card.


Why don’t your parents get a passport? If they don’t get one, why do you assume they would get a national ID card? What documentation would the ID card provide that a passport wouldn’t? I’m in favor of ID to vote, are you?
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 13:34     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If we had Voter IDs....like most all other countries...this would be a moot issue. Just saying.


Non-citizens are eligible for IDs. So that doesn't solve the issue.

Republicans are adamantly opposed to a national ID card that could be used to validate citizenship. Gee, I wonder why? (answer: voter suppression)


We already have ID like passports. We aren’t the party that doesn’t support voter ID!!!


Right...

Neither of my parents had passports. Most of my relatives outside of my immediate family do not have passports.

Why do you object to a national ID card? Everyone eligible for one would have one. There is no need to have multiple documents - just one card.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 13:14     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If we had Voter IDs....like most all other countries...this would be a moot issue. Just saying.


Non-citizens are eligible for IDs. So that doesn't solve the issue.

Republicans are adamantly opposed to a national ID card that could be used to validate citizenship. Gee, I wonder why? (answer: voter suppression)


We already have ID like passports. We aren’t the party that doesn’t support voter ID!!!
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 12:08     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/19983259/

Guess which areas has most number/highest rates of purged voter? HINT - color blue.


You mean the highest number of people who indicated they were not legal citizens on their voter registration? Oh. Quelle surprise.


I’m a legal citizen for over 50 years (from birth). I was at the DMV to get my license renewed because it was about to expire. At the end of the transaction I was told I needed to answer a few questions before paying and to indicate my answers on the screen.

First question was something like: DMV would like to re-confirm your voter registration information and in order for the screen to go forward you had to click on the only option, there wasn’t a no. And why would you think this was some sneaky plot because you’re often asked on similar pads at other places to reconfirm your email or phone number or if you want your receipt emailed to you or to take an annoying survey. It happens everywhere and this seemed exactly the same. And then the questions for weird, like asking the same thing over and over but worded differently.

I have never been a noncitizen, I have never indicated otherwise. I’ve been registered to vote since I was 18 and had a license since I was 16. For whatever crazy reason, I was flagged. This is some sort rigged nut job shenanigans. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone.


The voter registration process at the DMV is very flawed. They need to fix this because it is very easy for people to unintentionally register to vote or cancel their voter registration while getting their drivers licenses. The VA DMV just asks people if they want to register to vote by checking a yes or no box on the screen, but the DMV staff don't verbally confirm whether you are a US citizen or not. People who don't know any better or that have limited English proficiency might register to vote accidentally and then get deported for it. The question about other you want to register to vote without confirming citizenship status first can easily misinterpreted by people as an indication that they are in fact eligible to vote.


I’m not an idiot. I can speak English. I was born and raised in Virginia. I had already proven my citizenship because I was getting a Real ID and literally had there on the counter my birth certificate, my passport, my social security card, etc. The questions appeared at the very end, asking me to reconfirm. I didn’t understand because I registered to vote in 1993 and have been registered ever since. The DMV people didn’t understand either and the system kept refusing to allow me to skip. Maybe it was a hiccup, I don’t know. But you’re wrong if you think the only people who are getting flagged are ESL recent citizens or undocumented. I am in Fairfax. This was in September.

Oh the pp you’re talking to didn’t misunderstand you or the process. The idea that Democrats like you and naturalized citizens might be deprived their constitutional right to vote gives them the warm fuzzies. The fascism is their safe space.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 10:33     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/19983259/

Guess which areas has most number/highest rates of purged voter? HINT - color blue.


You mean the highest number of people who indicated they were not legal citizens on their voter registration? Oh. Quelle surprise.


I’m a legal citizen for over 50 years (from birth). I was at the DMV to get my license renewed because it was about to expire. At the end of the transaction I was told I needed to answer a few questions before paying and to indicate my answers on the screen.

First question was something like: DMV would like to re-confirm your voter registration information and in order for the screen to go forward you had to click on the only option, there wasn’t a no. And why would you think this was some sneaky plot because you’re often asked on similar pads at other places to reconfirm your email or phone number or if you want your receipt emailed to you or to take an annoying survey. It happens everywhere and this seemed exactly the same. And then the questions for weird, like asking the same thing over and over but worded differently.

I have never been a noncitizen, I have never indicated otherwise. I’ve been registered to vote since I was 18 and had a license since I was 16. For whatever crazy reason, I was flagged. This is some sort rigged nut job shenanigans. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone.


The voter registration process at the DMV is very flawed. They need to fix this because it is very easy for people to unintentionally register to vote or cancel their voter registration while getting their drivers licenses. The VA DMV just asks people if they want to register to vote by checking a yes or no box on the screen, but the DMV staff don't verbally confirm whether you are a US citizen or not. People who don't know any better or that have limited English proficiency might register to vote accidentally and then get deported for it. The question about other you want to register to vote without confirming citizenship status first can easily misinterpreted by people as an indication that they are in fact eligible to vote.


I’m not an idiot. I can speak English. I was born and raised in Virginia. I had already proven my citizenship because I was getting a Real ID and literally had there on the counter my birth certificate, my passport, my social security card, etc. The questions appeared at the very end, asking me to reconfirm. I didn’t understand because I registered to vote in 1993 and have been registered ever since. The DMV people didn’t understand either and the system kept refusing to allow me to skip. Maybe it was a hiccup, I don’t know. But you’re wrong if you think the only people who are getting flagged are ESL recent citizens or undocumented. I am in Fairfax. This was in September.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 10:05     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:If we had Voter IDs....like most all other countries...this would be a moot issue. Just saying.


Non-citizens are eligible for IDs. So that doesn't solve the issue.

Republicans are adamantly opposed to a national ID card that could be used to validate citizenship. Gee, I wonder why? (answer: voter suppression)
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 10:01     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/19983259/

Guess which areas has most number/highest rates of purged voter? HINT - color blue.


You mean the highest number of people who indicated they were not legal citizens on their voter registration? Oh. Quelle surprise.


I’m a legal citizen for over 50 years (from birth). I was at the DMV to get my license renewed because it was about to expire. At the end of the transaction I was told I needed to answer a few questions before paying and to indicate my answers on the screen.

First question was something like: DMV would like to re-confirm your voter registration information and in order for the screen to go forward you had to click on the only option, there wasn’t a no. And why would you think this was some sneaky plot because you’re often asked on similar pads at other places to reconfirm your email or phone number or if you want your receipt emailed to you or to take an annoying survey. It happens everywhere and this seemed exactly the same. And then the questions for weird, like asking the same thing over and over but worded differently.

I have never been a noncitizen, I have never indicated otherwise. I’ve been registered to vote since I was 18 and had a license since I was 16. For whatever crazy reason, I was flagged. This is some sort rigged nut job shenanigans. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone.


The voter registration process at the DMV is very flawed. They need to fix this because it is very easy for people to unintentionally register to vote or cancel their voter registration while getting their drivers licenses. The VA DMV just asks people if they want to register to vote by checking a yes or no box on the screen, but the DMV staff don't verbally confirm whether you are a US citizen or not. People who don't know any better or that have limited English proficiency might register to vote accidentally and then get deported for it. The question about other you want to register to vote without confirming citizenship status first can easily misinterpreted by people as an indication that they are in fact eligible to vote.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 09:12     Subject: Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Yes it would have been a nonstory if Youngkin did it a year ago which is exactly why he did when he did.

I think the appeals court noted he did this the very first day he was not allowed to do it— if he had done it one day earlier he’d have been outside the 90 day cooling off period and no problem.

But because R’s care more about getting people ginned up about the appearance of a problem than whether there is a problem or solution he did it this way so he could make all his stupid speeches and go to court pretending to care about the issue.

SMDH