Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 17:08     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:Who is going to be doing all of these boundary adjustments now that they eliminated the planning dept?


Probably hire an out of state consultant. They’ll do all the legwork, with staff and school board input.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 16:58     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Who is going to be doing all of these boundary adjustments now that they eliminated the planning dept?
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 16:57     Subject: Re:APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:15 percent over enrolled is too high


They used to wait until 40% over!
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 16:43     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arlnow just reported on the new boundary policy. A 15% under or over capacity delta is required to trigger a boundary discussion that would be limited to only the affected schools. So there would be no new systemwide boundaries for an equity rational, the impetus for the current boundary process in FCPS


I am confused how this works in reality.

If Williamsburg is 15 percent under rolled, they have to pull from nearby schools. How do you limit the boundary adjustments to only the affected school? There has to be somewhere to take from or give to.


Same thing they did to W-L in 2018. The online boundary tool will only allow certain adjacent and/or contiguous planning units to move. That way a very limited number of adjacent schools are affected.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 16:32     Subject: Re:APS boundary process this fall?

15 percent over enrolled is too high
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 16:20     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:Arlnow just reported on the new boundary policy. A 15% under or over capacity delta is required to trigger a boundary discussion that would be limited to only the affected schools. So there would be no new systemwide boundaries for an equity rational, the impetus for the current boundary process in FCPS


I am confused how this works in reality.

If Williamsburg is 15 percent under rolled, they have to pull from nearby schools. How do you limit the boundary adjustments to only the affected school? There has to be somewhere to take from or give to.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 11:08     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:Arlnow just reported on the new boundary policy. A 15% under or over capacity delta is required to trigger a boundary discussion that would be limited to only the affected schools. So there would be no new systemwide boundaries for an equity rational, the impetus for the current boundary process in FCPS

That sounds reasonable and hard to argue...not that it will stop anyone from trying.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 11:05     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:Arlnow just reported on the new boundary policy. A 15% under or over capacity delta is required to trigger a boundary discussion that would be limited to only the affected schools. So there would be no new systemwide boundaries for an equity rational, the impetus for the current boundary process in FCPS


The article mentions "a handful" of schools are over/under 15%. Which schools? That would be important information.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 11:00     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Arlnow just reported on the new boundary policy. A 15% under or over capacity delta is required to trigger a boundary discussion that would be limited to only the affected schools. So there would be no new systemwide boundaries for an equity rational, the impetus for the current boundary process in FCPS
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2024 15:12     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:Is the immersion program in middle and HS isolated from the non-immersion students going to that same school? I keep hearing different things on that part.


MS immersion has science and history in spanish and the rest of the classes are with non-immersion students.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2024 12:46     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Is the immersion program in middle and HS isolated from the non-immersion students going to that same school? I keep hearing different things on that part.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2024 17:56     Subject: Re:APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:It will happen next fall with a decision by Dec 2025 to apply to the following school year, fall 2026. Any changes will take affect on this year’s 4th grade class.


where does it say this? citation?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 20:22     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:What if, in order to help with the severe crowding at Wakefield, the Immersion students from Key would track to Yorktown. The Claremont students could go to Wakefield.

At the middle school level the program could move to just one middle school such as Kenmore, back to Williamsburg, or remain at Gunston. If it moves to Kenmore or Williamsburg, that may help to keep the walkable kids at Hamm from being rezoned. (Both schools track to Yorktown, with Kenmore to all three high schools.)

Can we stop with the "back to Williamsburg" nonsense? That was 1991-1997 and before there was Claremont or a high school program. Gunston middle school didn't even open until 1994, and didn't finish being constructed for a few years after that. It's just complete nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 20:14     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

Anonymous wrote:What if, in order to help with the severe crowding at Wakefield, the Immersion students from Key would track to Yorktown. The Claremont students could go to Wakefield.

At the middle school level the program could move to just one middle school such as Kenmore, back to Williamsburg, or remain at Gunston. If it moves to Kenmore or Williamsburg, that may help to keep the walkable kids at Hamm from being rezoned. (Both schools track to Yorktown, with Kenmore to all three high schools.)

If immersion doesn't fit at Wakefield, the WL is the obvious choice. They're literally growing the school right now by hundreds of students. Put it in the middle of the county so it's central.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 20:03     Subject: APS boundary process this fall?

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t immersion serve a dedicated Hispanic ESL population when it was a neighborhood school, Key ES at its original Courthouse location? It moved and became an option program because upper middle class families wanted more room for their kids in the program.

I doubt all immersion families truly value the original purpose of immersion, to help ESL students. It’s become a prized option program.

Uh no, the Key community didn't want to move. APS wanted to put a neighborhood elementary school at the Key location and forced the move. Key still follows the 50/50 model that it did before the move. That hasn't changed at all.


And did it die like you cried when they moved Key to the former ATS site? No. MS can also move without destroying the program. It’s not serving the largest populations of ESL kids now at any level from K-12, who are in the South Arlington neighborhood schools, schools which you want to further segregate and impoverish for your own selfish convenience.


No, but the move forced us to go from 6 K classes to 4 due to reduced building size. So APS shrunk the immersion program with the move. That is a big part of why we fought the move.


But they objections were that the Hispanic families (in particular ESL) wouldn’t follow the program and would just stay at the neighborhood school. If that hasn’t actually happened, then you can’t really cry foul about moving the location of the MS program. Yes, it’s less convenient for the kids who come up from Claremont and make up the current majority of the MS program, but it might mean attracting more Key students who currently don’t want the long commute to Gunston to stay in immersion. It may change who opts to stay in the program long term, but if it’s still attracting kids from both English and Spanish speaking families, I don’t think it matters whether they come from the Claremont or Key community. And if the program itself isn’t harmed by a move, and I argue that it would not be harmed just like Key was not harmed, it is the simplest and least disruptive way to address the imbalance of population at the MS level.


For those who are advocating moving the middle school immersion program, I want to make sure you known there’s also a high school immersion program. That program is located at Wakefield. Are you all also proposing to move that program, or are you saying immersion kids should just go Key or Claremont/Williamsburg/Wakefield? It isn’t simple and it is disruptive to move the middle school program 20 minutes away, especially without a coherent plan for the high school program.




Wakefield is also very overcrowded, so perhaps that should be on the table during boundary discussions! It’s almost an entirely self-contained program. Kids in Immersion only take PE in 9/10 and their one elective and have lunch with non-immersion students. I’m not sure it would matter if they are at Wakefield or Yorktown since they’re an entity unto themselves and pretty much have their own friend groups, the kids they were friends with in the ES and MS Immersion programs. There just isn’t a ton of mixing about. Do you have a kid this age yet? Just wait and see.
You clearly know nothing about the immersion program--this is all completely wrong. The immersion kids are not an entity unto themselves, but are part of the school community. They play sports, at in clubs and are in classes (including AP classes, music, art, English, a third language, etc) with non-immersion. students.