Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
NVD didn't rule the board with an iron fist. Barbara did, and this comes from her influence.
NVD did not tolerate dissension and was publicly much ruder.
How well did you know Barbara? She was/is quite awful in private. I'd prefer public rudeness frankly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
It matters a lot, the board chair sets the agenda. It's their opportunity to get their priorities addressed. So skipping over Mary is a big deal. It silences her.
Isn’t the agenda set by the needs and priorities of APS, which are determined by the school administrators? It’s not like she could decide, hey, we’re not going to focus on reading this year and then it wouldn’t be taught, or we’re not going to build that new Career Center after all. Can you explain exactly how the chairs “sets the agenda?”
Don't be daft, if it really didn't matter who the chair is, 3 members wouldn't be scheming to skip over the one who is next in line.
and it wouldn't have happened to Emma V-S either.
Of course it matters.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
NVD didn't rule the board with an iron fist. Barbara did, and this comes from her influence.
NVD did not tolerate dissension and was publicly much ruder.
How well did you know Barbara? She was/is quite awful in private. I'd prefer public rudeness frankly.
Seriously. I would respect the board members more if they just came out and said "MK would be a bad board chair for X, Y, and Z reasons, and that's why I'm supporting someone else." Just own it already. People would take it more seriously that way. Unless your reasons just don't look good in the first place...
That is not the Arlington way. We never dissent publicly.
Then they should do it the true arlington way and have listening sessions and public comment periods
and maybe some non-binding public opinion voting.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
It matters a lot, the board chair sets the agenda. It's their opportunity to get their priorities addressed. So skipping over Mary is a big deal. It silences her.
Isn’t the agenda set by the needs and priorities of APS, which are determined by the school administrators? It’s not like she could decide, hey, we’re not going to focus on reading this year and then it wouldn’t be taught, or we’re not going to build that new Career Center after all. Can you explain exactly how the chairs “sets the agenda?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
NVD didn't rule the board with an iron fist. Barbara did, and this comes from her influence.
NVD did not tolerate dissension and was publicly much ruder.
How well did you know Barbara? She was/is quite awful in private. I'd prefer public rudeness frankly.
Seriously. I would respect the board members more if they just came out and said "MK would be a bad board chair for X, Y, and Z reasons, and that's why I'm supporting someone else." Just own it already. People would take it more seriously that way. Unless your reasons just don't look good in the first place...
That is not the Arlington way. We never dissent publicly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
NVD didn't rule the board with an iron fist. Barbara did, and this comes from her influence.
NVD did not tolerate dissension and was publicly much ruder.
How well did you know Barbara? She was/is quite awful in private. I'd prefer public rudeness frankly.
Seriously. I would respect the board members more if they just came out and said "MK would be a bad board chair for X, Y, and Z reasons, and that's why I'm supporting someone else." Just own it already. People would take it more seriously that way. Unless your reasons just don't look good in the first place...
That is not the Arlington way. We never dissent publicly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
NVD didn't rule the board with an iron fist. Barbara did, and this comes from her influence.
NVD did not tolerate dissension and was publicly much ruder.
How well did you know Barbara? She was/is quite awful in private. I'd prefer public rudeness frankly.
Seriously. I would respect the board members more if they just came out and said "MK would be a bad board chair for X, Y, and Z reasons, and that's why I'm supporting someone else." Just own it already. People would take it more seriously that way. Unless your reasons just don't look good in the first place...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
NVD didn't rule the board with an iron fist. Barbara did, and this comes from her influence.
NVD did not tolerate dissension and was publicly much ruder.
How well did you know Barbara? She was/is quite awful in private. I'd prefer public rudeness frankly.
Seriously. I would respect the board members more if they just came out and said "MK would be a bad board chair for X, Y, and Z reasons, and that's why I'm supporting someone else." Just own it already. People would take it more seriously that way. Unless your reasons just don't look good in the first place...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
NVD didn't rule the board with an iron fist. Barbara did, and this comes from her influence.
NVD did not tolerate dissension and was publicly much ruder.
How well did you know Barbara? She was/is quite awful in private. I'd prefer public rudeness frankly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
It matters a lot, the board chair sets the agenda. It's their opportunity to get their priorities addressed. So skipping over Mary is a big deal. It silences her.
Isn’t the agenda set by the needs and priorities of APS, which are determined by the school administrators? It’s not like she could decide, hey, we’re not going to focus on reading this year and then it wouldn’t be taught, or we’re not going to build that new Career Center after all. Can you explain exactly how the chairs “sets the agenda?”
No because I'm not on the board, lol. Ask them. But it is a stated duty of the board chair.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
NVD didn't rule the board with an iron fist. Barbara did, and this comes from her influence.
NVD did not tolerate dissension and was publicly much ruder.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I will not vote for any board member who doesn't support Mary's turn as chair. At least one of them should care about this. Maybe others if they aspire to another office someday.
Barbara K tried to pull this and look how things turned out for her. She's a joke who isn't going anywhere.
That's not because she tried to pull a similar coups. She just wasn't ever going to go anywhere.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow the CDT, DP and BZS peeps are sure throwing a tantrum. Guess they're mad their little plot got exposed. How embarrassing for them.
+1. Is this really over the career center? How petty.
Yes and a difference of belief in how to be a good school board member. Mary wants to ask questions. She thinks it's ok for members to disagree. The others don't. If you don't fall in line and do what you're told, this is what happens. The community should be making a HUGE fuss about this. Or STFU forever when you wonder why the school board doesn't "do it's job," and "hold APS accountable." This is why, and Mary is trying to do just that. If you want her to keep doing that, speak up. If you like the status quo of a do-nothing board, then stay quiet I guess.
A couple things: why does being chair even matter? It seems like a titular/honorary thing that’s surface only. You still just have one vote. I think it’s wrong to block anyone, and it seems petty AF, but also like it’s not important either in terms of how the board functions or acts. And lastly, it has ALWAYS bothered me that they expect to vote as a block. That’s back from when NVD ruled the SB with her iron fist and expected unanimity and called other members dumb on a hot mic. It’s wrong and anti democratic. You can disagree, in private, and in public. It’s a democracy, and it’s what we should expect from our elected leaders. This whole idea that if you’re in the party you can only vote a certain way that someone else has determined is really not very cool, and really subverts the idea of an elected board who represents the people. This has been true for the CB as well. It really doesn’t sit well with me, at all. And I’m a faithful D voter. I sat out the most recent SB caucus, because of “inside” stuff like this. It’s disgusting actually.
It matters a lot, the board chair sets the agenda. It's their opportunity to get their priorities addressed. So skipping over Mary is a big deal. It silences her.
Isn’t the agenda set by the needs and priorities of APS, which are determined by the school administrators? It’s not like she could decide, hey, we’re not going to focus on reading this year and then it wouldn’t be taught, or we’re not going to build that new Career Center after all. Can you explain exactly how the chairs “sets the agenda?”