Anonymous
04/29/2024 14:22
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)
What are favorite subjects and topics?
Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…
Yeah but that’s Dartmouth and Yale. There are maybe 10-15 schools where Anthropology majors can go into lucrative fields. Even at good school schools like Michigan and UVA, Anthropology majors are not going to be getting into consulting or finance unless they’re very connected or a varsity athlete.
My dd is getting an anthropology degree at UVA and has had great internships each year, all in nonprofit though. I suspect she will graduate next year with a great job though she is not gonna be doing soulless consulting work for sure.
Yeah she should be fine.
worst case scenario, if she's cute she can pivote and land a job at a NYC gallery or auction house
smart on her not selling out to consulting
Anonymous
04/29/2024 14:18
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
I've noticed that how attractive/put together someone also is leading to job offers more so than 5-10 years ago
the whole adorkable/hipster/"i'm too cool for being presentable" phase is out
the whole adorkable/hipster/"i'm too cool for being presentable" phase is out
Anonymous
04/29/2024 14:15
Subject: Re:2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Know 5 W&M grads this year and of those one is going directly on to grad school, the other have jobs lined up. Four social science type majors and one business.
How many obtained positions through parental or other connections? Which fields? [b]URMs?[b]/quote]
Np company is going to pay someone $100,000 for the right color tone. So have a seat and be quiet.
You first b/c you are clueless.
Anonymous
04/29/2024 14:13
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The CS majors I know from Columbia snd Stanford have great tech jobs starting this summer/fall.
The humanities majors I know from Yale, Georgetown and Dartmouth have finance gigs or consulting.
The kids from Wisconsin, Denison and Miami-Ohio - also all graduating shortly - are still looking.
Yeah, how connected are the students?
All of them from the same private high school. MC/UMC families. Think the school name helps in this part of cycle.
at least you're honest, a DCUM rarity.
The college name is what matters. Not the HS.
you’d be surprised
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:46
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
This is an interesting discussion....
I assumed that an Ivy or Ivy+ would be an equalizer for outcomes (job placement) across SES, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Where can I get more info on this? Reddit? Blogs? Books?
I assumed that an Ivy or Ivy+ would be an equalizer for outcomes (job placement) across SES, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Where can I get more info on this? Reddit? Blogs? Books?
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:45
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The CS majors I know from Columbia snd Stanford have great tech jobs starting this summer/fall.
The humanities majors I know from Yale, Georgetown and Dartmouth have finance gigs or consulting.
The kids from Wisconsin, Denison and Miami-Ohio - also all graduating shortly - are still looking.
Yeah, how connected are the students?
All of them from the same private high school. MC/UMC families. Think the school name helps in this part of cycle.
The college name is what matters. Not the HS.
HS name can matter if you go to a sub-par college.
But if you are at an Ivy or 15-20, you are fine.
No. I know a half dozen DCPS Ivy grads (SWW or JR) who are now tutoring or working part time at non-profits. most are living at home.
Even coming out if an Ivy it's SO much who you know.
Were they on financial aid?
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:37
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The CS majors I know from Columbia snd Stanford have great tech jobs starting this summer/fall.
The humanities majors I know from Yale, Georgetown and Dartmouth have finance gigs or consulting.
The kids from Wisconsin, Denison and Miami-Ohio - also all graduating shortly - are still looking.
Yeah, how connected are the students?
All of them from the same private high school. MC/UMC families. Think the school name helps in this part of cycle.
The college name is what matters. Not the HS.
HS name can matter if you go to a sub-par college.
But if you are at an Ivy or 15-20, you are fine.
LOL. On what planet?
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:37
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)
What are favorite subjects and topics?
Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…
Those people have "connections" that regular students and Yale and Dartmouth do not. You're a fool if you think otherwise.
Yes this is true. I have seen this as well at other esteemed schools, the regular fin aid students aren't getting anything impressive, or even nothing at all. Only the wealthy kids are getting anything.
How does a recruiter/company/firm know which kids are on financial aid and which kids are wealthy?
The wealthy kids are getting jobs at daddy's firm or through other connections. The normal students lack this and are struggling.
This is true, and it starts with summer internships during college. My DC at an SLAC has gotten 2 internship offers for the summer - despite a much better resume than I ever had - one with an alum and the other with her wealthy best friend's stepfather.
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:36
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)
What are favorite subjects and topics?
Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…
Those people have "connections" that regular students and Yale and Dartmouth do not. You're a fool if you think otherwise.
Yes this is true. I have seen this as well at other esteemed schools, the regular fin aid students aren't getting anything impressive, or even nothing at all. Only the wealthy kids are getting anything.
The previous post about the kids in the DC job consulting were both financial aid kids, one first gen. College name matters.
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:36
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The CS majors I know from Columbia snd Stanford have great tech jobs starting this summer/fall.
The humanities majors I know from Yale, Georgetown and Dartmouth have finance gigs or consulting.
The kids from Wisconsin, Denison and Miami-Ohio - also all graduating shortly - are still looking.
Yeah, how connected are the students?
All of them from the same private high school. MC/UMC families. Think the school name helps in this part of cycle.
The college name is what matters. Not the HS.
HS name can matter if you go to a sub-par college.
But if you are at an Ivy or 15-20, you are fine.
No. I know a half dozen DCPS Ivy grads (SWW or JR) who are now tutoring or working part time at non-profits. most are living at home.
Even coming out if an Ivy it's SO much who you know.
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:31
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The CS majors I know from Columbia snd Stanford have great tech jobs starting this summer/fall.
The humanities majors I know from Yale, Georgetown and Dartmouth have finance gigs or consulting.
The kids from Wisconsin, Denison and Miami-Ohio - also all graduating shortly - are still looking.
Yeah, how connected are the students?
All of them from the same private high school. MC/UMC families. Think the school name helps in this part of cycle.
The college name is what matters. Not the HS.
HS name can matter if you go to a sub-par college.
But if you are at an Ivy or 15-20, you are fine.
Yes, this: high school name only needed if you are not at a feeder college ivy/T15/Amherst/Wms/Swat.
Have seen it over and over again. And these colleges teach interviewing , resumes, everything starting freshman yr. My ivy kid is already doing all of that in first yr as part of the intro engineering course, plus has the requisite faculty lists of labs that want students and pay them
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:28
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)
What are favorite subjects and topics?
Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…
Those people have "connections" that regular students and Yale and Dartmouth do not. You're a fool if you think otherwise.
DP but lots of ivy/+ topLACs go into consulting because the companies actively recruit at these schools. We know plenty who have zero connections personally, the connections were all because they attended that college. The one we know best , she and BF both recruited, moved to DC, 3rd yr in and now one of them goes to the alma mater to recruit new hires. They were just regular admits, average students. Not MBB but a “known” fortune 150 type company . They have lists of target colleges where they start searches. They hire humanities and tech majors and the typical Econ major.
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:27
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The CS majors I know from Columbia snd Stanford have great tech jobs starting this summer/fall.
The humanities majors I know from Yale, Georgetown and Dartmouth have finance gigs or consulting.
The kids from Wisconsin, Denison and Miami-Ohio - also all graduating shortly - are still looking.
Yeah, how connected are the students?
All of them from the same private high school. MC/UMC families. Think the school name helps in this part of cycle.
The college name is what matters. Not the HS.
HS name can matter if you go to a sub-par college.
But if you are at an Ivy or 15-20, you are fine.
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:19
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Navigating the intricate web of connections that lead to high-paying jobs after graduation from prestigious universities like Yale can be a daunting task. My DS recently shed light on the challenges faced by those from LC or MC backgrounds in accessing these coveted opportunities. It seems that a significant barrier exists, with affluent students seemingly monopolizing access to influential networks through familial connections and social circles.
The disparity is stark: while the affluent students effortlessly navigate the corridors of privilege, those from less privileged backgrounds find themselves on the outside looking in. Unless one possesses exceptional athletic or musical talents, breaking into these exclusive circles seems like an insurmountable feat. It appears that prowess in sports or the arts grants access to the coveted inner sanctum, where one's social capital is measured by their ability to attract attention and admiration.
In this ecosystem of privilege, the currency is not merely wealth but also influence and status. Athletes and musicians, despite their modest backgrounds, possess a certain allure that transcends monetary means. Their ability to captivate and charm earns them coveted spots within the elite social circles, where they are sought after not just for their talents but also for the doors they can open.
It's a transactional world, where relationships are forged on the basis of mutual benefit. While it's disheartening to acknowledge this reality, it's important to recognize the systemic barriers that perpetuate inequality within these institutions. As my DS has pointed out, it's not merely about merit but also about who you know and how you can leverage those connections for personal gain.
Where did he shed this light? Where does he work now? What was his major?
He studied psychology at Yale and played soccer there. He is currently working for Fidelity investment.
Anonymous
04/29/2024 13:19
Subject: 2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, so what does DCUM recommend for a kid who has good stats? DC does not have a particular passion for anything and is pretty much open to studying anything except the humanities (is decent but still hate writing). Seems every careers is up in the air with AI. I don't think he can handle plumbing (not very handy and probably does not have the strength to lift anything too heavy)
What are favorite subjects and topics?
Lots of anthropology majors at Dartmouth and Yale end up in consulting or finance…
Those people have "connections" that regular students and Yale and Dartmouth do not. You're a fool if you think otherwise.
Yes this is true. I have seen this as well at other esteemed schools, the regular fin aid students aren't getting anything impressive, or even nothing at all. Only the wealthy kids are getting anything.
How does a recruiter/company/firm know which kids are on financial aid and which kids are wealthy?
The wealthy kids are getting jobs at daddy's firm or through other connections. The normal students lack this and are struggling.
Yes and the financial aid kids are struggling:
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2022/01/27/cosplaying-as-a-different-class-character-life-as-a-low-income-student-at-yale/