Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Why would they? Most people don't know this place exists, and of those that do, I doubt many put much investment into what is said on this board.

Posting here anonymously and linking to your bio is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

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Anonymous wrote:Paul Ellis does nothing for the club. He needs to take the hint and move on. He can keep his soccer academy company, but please move one. Club has to work twice as hard to get things done because no one in the soccer community likes Paul.

I thought that belonged to craig?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Everybody, say hi to Paul. Hi Paul!

HI PAUL!!!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

THIS. U9 boys team has a gold, white, black, silver and blue. We have watched some of these games in passing and they are painful. And it isnt the kids fault. these are rec league players paying travel dues just because. If he was in it for the players these teams wouldnt exist.

Paul Ellis does nothing for the club. He needs to take the hint and move on. He can keep his soccer academy company, but please move one. Club has to work twice as hard to get things done because no one in the soccer community likes Paul.

He should answer some questions while he's here posting.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Everybody, say hi to Paul. Hi Paul!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Nonsense. He came up with a whole plan to create a separate organization to keep travel profits separate from the original rec leagues they were associated with, designated himself in charge, and pays himself a large salary. (They don't even get their own permits, they use CYA fields which means fewer fields for the CYA rec teams.) He cares about cash money ducats and nothing else. If he truly cared about the game and the player, he would let exceptional poor kids play for free (Valor has very stingy financial aid). They would send weak players back to the rec leagues instead of taking their money and be honest with parents.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

He doesn't care about you and other parents because you are probably annoying and an idiot. He does care about the player and the game. Do you even know the talent he's seen? Your child probably couldn't even hold a water bottle in comparison to the talent he's had in the past. That's probably why you're on here complaining. Shut up. https://www.vadcsoccerhof.org/hall-of-fame-inductees/hall-of-fame-bios/paul-ellis#:~:text=Paul%20Ellis%20is%20currently%20the,levels%20of%20the%20youth%20game.

Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Oh, this reply was definitely a paid Valor rep:
That is actually not remotely accurate. Speaking for Girls, younger teams have been playing in a variety of tournaments. Some quite competitive and others that are not. The ones that were not as competitive had the teams playing in the top groups, but the competition was not there. The purpose of play in these tourneys was to get other competition and not just play NOVA teams. In other tournaments, Valor wanted to play in the top but for some reason was not placed there (new club, tournament sandbagging, etc.?). For mid age groups, a lot of times they are placed further down because of ECNL-RL vs ECNL/ GA. Again, not a club decision, just how all of this plays out.


He never came back to answer any of the questions (like: do you work for Valor?)

Anonymous wrote:This is the wrong place to ask that question

How so? What is this board for then?

( Welp, other than for whining Loudoun parents constantly complaining…. oops I mean …. ,other than soccer parents whining about their princesses not being picked. )

Anonymous wrote:This thread is terrible PR. I am surprise none of there over paid directors has not stopped here and posted some desperate spin.

Paul Ellis does not care about anything but money coming into his club. I know for a fact parents has voiced many concerns and nothing ever changes. He doesn't care about parents or players. He is willing to lose the parents and players that have a heart for the game and know what this club is doing isn't anything to get their kid to play their best.

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Anonymous wrote:Its a discussion board. People are discussing. No one is "worked up" except maybe you.

This information is helpful for families deciding where to spend their money and time next year. We will be passing on Valor based on the overwhelming amount of negative info in this thread. Others may read through it and think it sounds great.

Oh no don’t base your opinion on that! Try it for yourself : post “hey what do you all think of {pick a club}” and then repeat with “hey what do you all think of {pick another club}” , you will get 90 pct negative feedback regardless of what is filled in the blank. Hell make up a club name!

People have posted positive experiences with other clubs in this thread. However, most people seem to have a negative experience with Valor. That's useful information to have before spending 3k+ on a year of kids soccer. If you are a Valor parent and love it, great. You should be thrilled about this thread--it will keep away lots of competition for your kids spot next year.

at this point the club wont have enough kids to form a team.

they have two enormous rec leagues to shop for players from-there is a neverending pipeline of naive new parents.

People are also assuming that parents who post on DCUM are a representative sample. I would argue that's not the case. Plenty of people, especially in the suburbs, have never even heard of it.

This is absolutely true. Unless you're actively searching out a place like this families only get word of mouth recommendations for clubs or look at their social media and maybe their game history if they even know how to find it.