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Anonymous wrote:I 100% guarantee the kids knocked and ran from a house they know--like an auntie, grandma or neighborhood eminence. With a little shoe leather these kids can be identified. And then sure as sh*t they need to be sentenced and I want to hear what education and life skills they will be offered, and what consequences they will face if they don't take advantage of their 2nd chance. We must change the law on these heinous crimes, the anonymity and clean records of youth in this city, and the revolving door.

I agree they did not drop her with a rando. But, I appreciate that she was left somewhere safe where she would be taken into warmth. Still pondering the paper/pen/note - someone had their school bag. These kids were young.

And they were prowling, planning a crime, and casing for possible victims. In Georgetown, well known touristy shopping area in NW DC, that is not, or was not, considered unsafe…until… recently I suppose. . I’ve been at preschoolers birthday parties at the businesses there.

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Anonymous wrote:Is all the blame here toward the mom warranted? This is what I read:


2D- Kidnapping / Stolen Auto

The Second District is investigating a Kidnapping and Stolen Auto that occurred on Friday, January 5, 2024, at approximately 1803 hours in the Unit block of 3000 M Street NW.

The complainant was traveling with her four-month-old daughter when a tire deflated on her rental vehicle, a white Jeep. She pulled over in the 3000 block of M St NW and exited the vehicle to ask for help. While outside the Jeep, which she left running, an unknown suspect entered the vehicle and drove away with her four-month-old daughter westbound on M St NW.

At approximately 1853 hours, MPD officers received a call that an unknown individual left the child, still in her car seat, in the 1500 block of 28th St SE with a note stating that the baby had been lost from Georgetown. After knocking on the door, the suspect fled. No lookout is available. The homeowners then took the child to the Sixth District Police substation. There is no available lookout for the complainant's vehicle at this time except that it was a white jeep of an unknown make and model.

If you have any information about this incident, please contact the Command Information Center at 202-727-9099 or send an anonymous text tip 50411

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Anonymous wrote:This is wild. Sounds like they knocked on the door and left the baby on the porch.

Glad it ended well. Wonder if the car will be torched on the PG border.

This is a really heartwarming turn of events. They did the right thing.

It's a rollercoaster of a story. They did do the right thing. Still feel horrified by the mom. some witnesses commented that she took her time smelling all the candles at La Labo, ran out clutching one when she saw her car was gone, and then came back in to talk to the Police there.

What witnesses? Do you have a link (l googled but didn’t find). Her behavior sounds too crazy to be true.

NP here. I read that in the comments of the Washingtonian problems insta page. I think it is in this particular post. https://www.instagram.com/p/C1vV3uBRXM6/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The mother lied to the police, witnesses on social media reported that the mother was shopping and stopping to smell scents and test out items to purchase. The mother is the main source of culpability.

Agree the moms story doesn't make sense. How can a car with a flat tire be driven miles and miles (by the carjackers)? Why was she seen in La Labo by multiple witnesses if she was just checking the tire? Why did she stop there, instead of pull into a side street or something?

(The only way the moms story makes sense is if she knows she was in the wrong for leaving her baby alone in a running car, and she is desperate to reflect that blame, and that's what she came up with).

It is highly likely this is what happened. Mom panicked realizing that she was going to be in trouble for leaving her baby unattended in an idling car while she shopped and came up with a story. I’m a former prosecutor and while these perps if caught will probably be charged with kidnapping and theft, I would plead them out to theft (this wasn’t a carjacking if she was in the store shopping) and that’s it. I would be more incensed at Mom for being so reckless and endangering her baby, and would have no issue prosecuting her.

Of course because you’re misogynistic.

Wtf??

I am arguably the angriest feminist on this board - bordering on misandry I loathe patriarchy and misogyny so much - but I find this woman’s actions INDEFENSIBLE!!

YOU DO NOT LEAVE A FOUR MONTH OLD BABY ALONE IN A RUNNING UNLOCKED CAR - or even a shut off locked car! You DO NOT leave babies alone!!

Zero misogyny implicated by my utter contempt for this woman, flat tire or no flat tire.

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% guarantee the kids knocked and ran from a house they know--like an auntie, grandma or neighborhood eminence. With a little shoe leather these kids can be identified. And then sure as sh*t they need to be sentenced and I want to hear what education and life skills they will be offered, and what consequences they will face if they don't take advantage of their 2nd chance. We must change the law on these heinous crimes, the anonymity and clean records of youth in this city, and the revolving door.

I am very pro-prosecution but would be very lenient on this case. They did the right thing where it mattered.

Oh no. Oh no they didn’t. They could have stopped 20 feet away when they realized they had a baby and ran, just tell anyone on the street there’s a baby.

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Anonymous wrote:Is all the blame here toward the mom warranted? This is what I read:


2D- Kidnapping / Stolen Auto

The Second District is investigating a Kidnapping and Stolen Auto that occurred on Friday, January 5, 2024, at approximately 1803 hours in the Unit block of 3000 M Street NW.

The complainant was traveling with her four-month-old daughter when a tire deflated on her rental vehicle, a white Jeep. She pulled over in the 3000 block of M St NW and exited the vehicle to ask for help. While outside the Jeep, which she left running, an unknown suspect entered the vehicle and drove away with her four-month-old daughter westbound on M St NW.

At approximately 1853 hours, MPD officers received a call that an unknown individual left the child, still in her car seat, in the 1500 block of 28th St SE with a note stating that the baby had been lost from Georgetown. After knocking on the door, the suspect fled. No lookout is available. The homeowners then took the child to the Sixth District Police substation. There is no available lookout for the complainant's vehicle at this time except that it was a white jeep of an unknown make and model.

If you have any information about this incident, please contact the Command Information Center at 202-727-9099 or send an anonymous text tip 50411

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Anonymous wrote:This is wild. Sounds like they knocked on the door and left the baby on the porch.

Glad it ended well. Wonder if the car will be torched on the PG border.

This is a really heartwarming turn of events. They did the right thing.

It's a rollercoaster of a story. They did do the right thing. Still feel horrified by the mom. some witnesses commented that she took her time smelling all the candles at La Labo, ran out clutching one when she saw her car was gone, and then came back in to talk to the Police there.

What witnesses? Do you have a link (l googled but didn’t find). Her behavior sounds too crazy to be true.

NP here. I read that in the comments of the Washingtonian problems insta page. I think it is in this particular post. https://www.instagram.com/p/C1vV3uBRXM6/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The mother lied to the police, witnesses on social media reported that the mother was shopping and stopping to smell scents and test out items to purchase. The mother is the main source of culpability.

Agree the moms story doesn't make sense. How can a car with a flat tire be driven miles and miles (by the carjackers)? Why was she seen in La Labo by multiple witnesses if she was just checking the tire? Why did she stop there, instead of pull into a side street or something?

(The only way the moms story makes sense is if she knows she was in the wrong for leaving her baby alone in a running car, and she is desperate to reflect that blame, and that's what she came up with).

It is highly likely this is what happened. Mom panicked realizing that she was going to be in trouble for leaving her baby unattended in an idling car while she shopped and came up with a story. I’m a former prosecutor and while these perps if caught will probably be charged with kidnapping and theft, I would plead them out to theft (this wasn’t a carjacking if she was in the store shopping) and that’s it. I would be more incensed at Mom for being so reckless and endangering her baby, and would have no issue prosecuting her.

Of course because you’re misogynistic.

Nope, I would feel the same way if Dad left the baby in the car and went shopping. What that Mom did was criminal. Full stop. She left a car running with a 4 month in it while she shopped a This is not your parents leaving you in the car (locked and without the keys in the car and it running) when you were 6 while they ran into the grocery store.

I mean fine, but don’t go calling for leniency against the kidnappers who left the baby to freeze to death.

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% guarantee the kids knocked and ran from a house they know--like an auntie, grandma or neighborhood eminence. With a little shoe leather these kids can be identified. And then sure as sh*t they need to be sentenced and I want to hear what education and life skills they will be offered, and what consequences they will face if they don't take advantage of their 2nd chance. We must change the law on these heinous crimes, the anonymity and clean records of youth in this city, and the revolving door.

I am very pro-prosecution but would be very lenient on this case. They did the right thing where it mattered.

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Anonymous wrote:If the tire on her rental car was so deflated she had to stop and ask for help without attending to her baby, how did the rental car get so far away with the thieves?

You can drive on a flat tire. You can drive pretty fast and/or far. It will do a lot of damage to the vehicle that will be expensive to repair, which is why car owners don't do it. But why would a carjacker care about wrecking a car? They wreck them all the time. Life is a GTA game doncha know.

You mean the thieves drove from Georgetown to SE (probably via through Virginia) on a flat tire, with sparks flying everywhere once they quickly would have killed the rims and wheels, no one calling it in to 911, no one noticing the awful noise?

Not possible.

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Anonymous wrote:If the tire on her rental car was so deflated she had to stop and ask for help without attending to her baby, how did the rental car get so far away with the thieves?

You can drive on a flat tire. You can drive pretty fast and/or far. It will do a lot of damage to the vehicle that will be expensive to repair, which is why car owners don't do it. But why would a carjacker care about wrecking a car? They wreck them all the time. Life is a GTA game doncha know.

You mean the thieves drove from Georgetown to SE (probably via through Virginia) on a flat tire, with sparks flying everywhere once they quickly would have killed the rims and wheels, no one calling it in to 911, no one noticing the awful noise?

Not possible.

+1. That doesn’t make sense. There are witnesses and the people who worked at the store - so far no one has mentioned her asking for help with a fire problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% guarantee the kids knocked and ran from a house they know--like an auntie, grandma or neighborhood eminence. With a little shoe leather these kids can be identified. And then sure as sh*t they need to be sentenced and I want to hear what education and life skills they will be offered, and what consequences they will face if they don't take advantage of their 2nd chance. We must change the law on these heinous crimes, the anonymity and clean records of youth in this city, and the revolving door.

I agree they did not drop her with a rando. But, I appreciate that she was left somewhere safe where she would be taken into warmth. Still pondering the paper/pen/note - someone had their school bag. These kids were young.

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Anonymous wrote:The baby was left in the car seat on a street in SE but the car is still missing. Curious about where/with who?

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/4-month-old-girl-found-after-being-taken-in-georgetown-car-theft/3508529/

Thank goodness she is safe.

I hope these guys get charged with kidnapping and child abuse, and get put away for a long time.

Sounds like these guys are on the loose joyriding in the jeep? At our councilmembers safety walk the USAO representative told us they can't charge carjackers cos when four sets of prints are found they don't know who the jacker was.. COMPLETE IMPUNITY and zero solutions offered.

Hope you told them what utter bullshit this was! 4sets of fingerprints? Arrest and charge them all, unless there is a reason for that fingerprint in the car. Are these people STUPID?

I’m a former prosecutor so I will take a crack at explaining why it is difficult to charge someone with carjacking based on fingerprints alone. When a car gets jacked by say several people who are masked and wearing generic dark clothing, the lookout for the suspects is obviously weak and the victim won’t be able to make an ID of people that did the carjacking. Then say the car is recovered the next day abandoned. The vehicle is printed and you get some hits off the prints. All you can prove is that the people whose prints were in the vehicle had been inside it at some point. You cannot prove that those people jacked the vehicle. You also can’t prove that they went joyriding in it after it was jacked because it was jacked with a key, so there wasn’t anything that would indicate to a passenger in the vehicle that the car was stolen. If, say the jackers weren’t masked and the victims got a look at the suspects, you can definitely put the people whose prints were found inside the car in photo arrays and show them to the victims and maybe they ID the jackers.

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Anonymous wrote:Is all the blame here toward the mom warranted? This is what I read:


2D- Kidnapping / Stolen Auto

The Second District is investigating a Kidnapping and Stolen Auto that occurred on Friday, January 5, 2024, at approximately 1803 hours in the Unit block of 3000 M Street NW.

The complainant was traveling with her four-month-old daughter when a tire deflated on her rental vehicle, a white Jeep. She pulled over in the 3000 block of M St NW and exited the vehicle to ask for help. While outside the Jeep, which she left running, an unknown suspect entered the vehicle and drove away with her four-month-old daughter westbound on M St NW.

At approximately 1853 hours, MPD officers received a call that an unknown individual left the child, still in her car seat, in the 1500 block of 28th St SE with a note stating that the baby had been lost from Georgetown. After knocking on the door, the suspect fled. No lookout is available. The homeowners then took the child to the Sixth District Police substation. There is no available lookout for the complainant's vehicle at this time except that it was a white jeep of an unknown make and model.

If you have any information about this incident, please contact the Command Information Center at 202-727-9099 or send an anonymous text tip 50411

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Anonymous wrote:This is wild. Sounds like they knocked on the door and left the baby on the porch.

Glad it ended well. Wonder if the car will be torched on the PG border.

This is a really heartwarming turn of events. They did the right thing.

It's a rollercoaster of a story. They did do the right thing. Still feel horrified by the mom. some witnesses commented that she took her time smelling all the candles at La Labo, ran out clutching one when she saw her car was gone, and then came back in to talk to the Police there.

What witnesses? Do you have a link (l googled but didn’t find). Her behavior sounds too crazy to be true.

NP here. I read that in the comments of the Washingtonian problems insta page. I think it is in this particular post. https://www.instagram.com/p/C1vV3uBRXM6/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The mother lied to the police, witnesses on social media reported that the mother was shopping and stopping to smell scents and test out items to purchase. The mother is the main source of culpability.

Agree the moms story doesn't make sense. How can a car with a flat tire be driven miles and miles (by the carjackers)? Why was she seen in La Labo by multiple witnesses if she was just checking the tire? Why did she stop there, instead of pull into a side street or something?

(The only way the moms story makes sense is if she knows she was in the wrong for leaving her baby alone in a running car, and she is desperate to reflect that blame, and that's what she came up with).

It is highly likely this is what happened. Mom panicked realizing that she was going to be in trouble for leaving her baby unattended in an idling car while she shopped and came up with a story. I’m a former prosecutor and while these perps if caught will probably be charged with kidnapping and theft, I would plead them out to theft (this wasn’t a carjacking if she was in the store shopping) and that’s it. I would be more incensed at Mom for being so reckless and endangering her baby, and would have no issue prosecuting her.

Of course because you’re misogynistic.

Nope, I would feel the same way if Dad left the baby in the car and went shopping. What that Mom did was criminal. Full stop. She left a car running with a 4 month in it while she shopped a This is not your parents leaving you in the car (locked and without the keys in the car and it running) when you were 6 while they ran into the grocery store.

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Anonymous wrote:Is all the blame here toward the mom warranted? This is what I read:


2D- Kidnapping / Stolen Auto

The Second District is investigating a Kidnapping and Stolen Auto that occurred on Friday, January 5, 2024, at approximately 1803 hours in the Unit block of 3000 M Street NW.

The complainant was traveling with her four-month-old daughter when a tire deflated on her rental vehicle, a white Jeep. She pulled over in the 3000 block of M St NW and exited the vehicle to ask for help. While outside the Jeep, which she left running, an unknown suspect entered the vehicle and drove away with her four-month-old daughter westbound on M St NW.

At approximately 1853 hours, MPD officers received a call that an unknown individual left the child, still in her car seat, in the 1500 block of 28th St SE with a note stating that the baby had been lost from Georgetown. After knocking on the door, the suspect fled. No lookout is available. The homeowners then took the child to the Sixth District Police substation. There is no available lookout for the complainant's vehicle at this time except that it was a white jeep of an unknown make and model.

If you have any information about this incident, please contact the Command Information Center at 202-727-9099 or send an anonymous text tip 50411

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is wild. Sounds like they knocked on the door and left the baby on the porch.

Glad it ended well. Wonder if the car will be torched on the PG border.

This is a really heartwarming turn of events. They did the right thing.

It's a rollercoaster of a story. They did do the right thing. Still feel horrified by the mom. some witnesses commented that she took her time smelling all the candles at La Labo, ran out clutching one when she saw her car was gone, and then came back in to talk to the Police there.

What witnesses? Do you have a link (l googled but didn’t find). Her behavior sounds too crazy to be true.

NP here. I read that in the comments of the Washingtonian problems insta page. I think it is in this particular post. https://www.instagram.com/p/C1vV3uBRXM6/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The mother lied to the police, witnesses on social media reported that the mother was shopping and stopping to smell scents and test out items to purchase. The mother is the main source of culpability.

Agree the moms story doesn't make sense. How can a car with a flat tire be driven miles and miles (by the carjackers)? Why was she seen in La Labo by multiple witnesses if she was just checking the tire? Why did she stop there, instead of pull into a side street or something?

(The only way the moms story makes sense is if she knows she was in the wrong for leaving her baby alone in a running car, and she is desperate to reflect that blame, and that's what she came up with).

It is highly likely this is what happened. Mom panicked realizing that she was going to be in trouble for leaving her baby unattended in an idling car while she shopped and came up with a story. I’m a former prosecutor and while these perps if caught will probably be charged with kidnapping and theft, I would plead them out to theft (this wasn’t a carjacking if she was in the store shopping) and that’s it. I would be more incensed at Mom for being so reckless and endangering her baby, and would have no issue prosecuting her.

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Anonymous wrote:Is all the blame here toward the mom warranted? This is what I read:


2D- Kidnapping / Stolen Auto

The Second District is investigating a Kidnapping and Stolen Auto that occurred on Friday, January 5, 2024, at approximately 1803 hours in the Unit block of 3000 M Street NW.

The complainant was traveling with her four-month-old daughter when a tire deflated on her rental vehicle, a white Jeep. She pulled over in the 3000 block of M St NW and exited the vehicle to ask for help. While outside the Jeep, which she left running, an unknown suspect entered the vehicle and drove away with her four-month-old daughter westbound on M St NW.

At approximately 1853 hours, MPD officers received a call that an unknown individual left the child, still in her car seat, in the 1500 block of 28th St SE with a note stating that the baby had been lost from Georgetown. After knocking on the door, the suspect fled. No lookout is available. The homeowners then took the child to the Sixth District Police substation. There is no available lookout for the complainant's vehicle at this time except that it was a white jeep of an unknown make and model.

If you have any information about this incident, please contact the Command Information Center at 202-727-9099 or send an anonymous text tip 50411

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is wild. Sounds like they knocked on the door and left the baby on the porch.

Glad it ended well. Wonder if the car will be torched on the PG border.

This is a really heartwarming turn of events. They did the right thing.

It's a rollercoaster of a story. They did do the right thing. Still feel horrified by the mom. some witnesses commented that she took her time smelling all the candles at La Labo, ran out clutching one when she saw her car was gone, and then came back in to talk to the Police there.

What witnesses? Do you have a link (l googled but didn’t find). Her behavior sounds too crazy to be true.

NP here. I read that in the comments of the Washingtonian problems insta page. I think it is in this particular post. https://www.instagram.com/p/C1vV3uBRXM6/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The mother lied to the police, witnesses on social media reported that the mother was shopping and stopping to smell scents and test out items to purchase. The mother is the main source of culpability.

Agree the moms story doesn't make sense. How can a car with a flat tire be driven miles and miles (by the carjackers)? Why was she seen in La Labo by multiple witnesses if she was just checking the tire? Why did she stop there, instead of pull into a side street or something?

(The only way the moms story makes sense is if she knows she was in the wrong for leaving her baby alone in a running car, and she is desperate to reflect that blame, and that's what she came up with).

It is highly likely this is what happened. Mom panicked realizing that she was going to be in trouble for leaving her baby unattended in an idling car while she shopped and came up with a story. I’m a former prosecutor and while these perps if caught will probably be charged with kidnapping and theft, I would plead them out to theft (this wasn’t a carjacking if she was in the store shopping) and that’s it. I would be more incensed at Mom for being so reckless and endangering her baby, and would have no issue prosecuting her.

Of course because you’re misogynistic.

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% guarantee the kids knocked and ran from a house they know--like an auntie, grandma or neighborhood eminence. With a little shoe leather these kids can be identified. And then sure as sh*t they need to be sentenced and I want to hear what education and life skills they will be offered, and what consequences they will face if they don't take advantage of their 2nd chance. We must change the law on these heinous crimes, the anonymity and clean records of youth in this city, and the revolving door.

I am very pro-prosecution but would be very lenient on this case. They did the right thing where it mattered.