Anonymous
12/31/2023 10:37
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
In the current crazy college admission environment, the ED option at Chicago is a wonderful thing for some kids.
At DD’s private school, the top unhooked students go to Chicago. The kids who go to Ivies are (almost without exception) legacies, URR, or athletic recruits.
My DC is a junior with very high stats (4.0 unweighted GPA with highest rigor and 36 ACT) and is at the top of their class. Favorite schools are Chicago, Swarthmore, and Yale. But Yale is a crapshoot, so they are likely to ED at Chicago or Swarthmore next year. Looking at the SCOIR scatter plots, there is something reassuring in knowing that you can actually get in to your dream school if you have done the work in high school.
At DD’s private school, the top unhooked students go to Chicago. The kids who go to Ivies are (almost without exception) legacies, URR, or athletic recruits.
My DC is a junior with very high stats (4.0 unweighted GPA with highest rigor and 36 ACT) and is at the top of their class. Favorite schools are Chicago, Swarthmore, and Yale. But Yale is a crapshoot, so they are likely to ED at Chicago or Swarthmore next year. Looking at the SCOIR scatter plots, there is something reassuring in knowing that you can actually get in to your dream school if you have done the work in high school.
Anonymous
12/31/2023 10:13
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
UChicago is for kids that want to work. You know, go to college, as it used to be when it was about learning and not a four year career finishing school. It’s extremely difficult academically and will only work for a narrow range of kids with a unique combination of conscientiousness, raw IQ, and openness. The commitment to free speech means hothouse flowers will never even consider it. Thus, they take a lot of kids who aggressively raise their hands for that experience, which they communicate in their marketing. Taking randos in RD with good stats will mean dropouts and transfers.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 18:26
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U Chicago takes a ton of private school kids.
They have a direct relationship with many private schools to absorb many of their strong but tier 2 students. They don’t care about poor or middle class kids at all
I wouldn't call them tier 2 students. They tend to be high-stats unhooked kids. 4.0 and 1,600 is not tier 2.
Actually only tier 3, 4 students go to U Chicago. At least that has been the case with TJ.
TJ is such a yawn.
U Chicago is a self-manipulated wannabe. It's a joke.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 17:58
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U Chicago takes a ton of private school kids.
They have a direct relationship with many private schools to absorb many of their strong but tier 2 students. They don’t care about poor or middle class kids at all
I wouldn't call them tier 2 students. They tend to be high-stats unhooked kids. 4.0 and 1,600 is not tier 2.
Actually only tier 3, 4 students go to U Chicago. At least that has been the case with TJ.
I thank TJ kills many bright teenagers’ future by focusing on science and technology so early in life and by working them too hard.
I agree, though, that the “best” TJ students go to top 5, most tier 2 go to other Ivies or Berkeley, etc. Most TJ students probably do not like UChicago because of the Core. Their writing and humanities cannot compare to top private school kids. The number of TJ students going to Ivies went down greatly in recent years, but UChicago is taking over 10 students from TJ recently. Some of these students are tier 2.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 17:46
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U Chicago takes a ton of private school kids.
They have a direct relationship with many private schools to absorb many of their strong but tier 2 students. They don’t care about poor or middle class kids at all
I wouldn't call them tier 2 students. They tend to be high-stats unhooked kids. 4.0 and 1,600 is not tier 2.
Actually only tier 3, 4 students go to U Chicago. At least that has been the case with TJ.
TJ is such a yawn.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 17:35
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
MIT and Harvard prioritize athletic recruits to a greater extent than UChicago.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 17:28
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My son never applied to U Chicago. He wanted a more fun school and ended up at a lower ivy. I think U Chicago has a hard time shaking off the slogan - Where fun goes to die. Lots of kids get turned off by that.
They should. That means it's not a good fit for them. UChicago is just different and students who are a good fit will appreciate that. Others should and do apply elsewhere.
Who actually appreciates- Where fun goes to die? Kids who believe in slogging through life? I guess I can’t relate.
Well, MIT, Caltech, and the CS students at a number of schools (e.g., Berkeley, CMU, etc.) are even tougher. Few people are smart enough to relate, but many complain about income inequality. Which profession produced the largest number of billionaires in the past three decades?
Ha ha. You are replying to me and I actually went to MIT. It was hard but I still had plenty of fun. Being smart does not have to mean working constantly. The goal in my opinion is to work smarter not harder. Life is too short not to have fun. And I don’t really care about being a billionaire either
Anonymous
12/27/2023 16:55
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U Chicago takes a ton of private school kids.
They have a direct relationship with many private schools to absorb many of their strong but tier 2 students. They don’t care about poor or middle class kids at all
I wouldn't call them tier 2 students. They tend to be high-stats unhooked kids. 4.0 and 1,600 is not tier 2.
Actually only tier 3, 4 students go to U Chicago. At least that has been the case with TJ.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 16:20
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I do believe U Chicago is one the best academic institutions in America and internationally.
If they are gaming the system is it because they are looking to attract more kids with different backgrounds to apply ?
Is it more name recognition?
They are not "gaming the system". These are posts from people who have looked at a few statistics and decided they know something everyone else is too dumb to realize and they want to show you how special they are.
Yet many of them do not have a definition for "gaming the system". Many of them claim that UChi does this to improve their ranking and don't know that these numbers are not included in the rankings and haven't been for years. They haven't done an iota of reading about the thing they are claiming. It's way past shameful and on to silly.
You people should either do your homework or stop posting on a topic you know nearly nothing about. You might misinform someone in a way that matters. Don't you care about that?
Will always find it difficult to see a University that gave us trickle down and the laffer curve as anything but 3rd rate
+100
Yea, understand that you like DEI and that president of DEI.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 15:22
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U Chicago takes a ton of private school kids.
They have a direct relationship with many private schools to absorb many of their strong but tier 2 students. They don’t care about poor or middle class kids at all
I wouldn't call them tier 2 students. They tend to be high-stats unhooked kids. 4.0 and 1,600 is not tier 2.
Remember the Harvard president who said they don't want to focus exclusively on students with the best academic profiles, because then they'd be UChicago? UChicago is supposed to be about developing scholars, not powerful people or "leaders". It is just culturally different and will generally appeal to different students.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 15:01
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U Chicago takes a ton of private school kids.
They have a direct relationship with many private schools to absorb many of their strong but tier 2 students. They don’t care about poor or middle class kids at all
I wouldn't call them tier 2 students. They tend to be high-stats unhooked kids. 4.0 and 1,600 is not tier 2.
This explains why a few posters speak to the fact that UChicago is tough and humbling.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 14:54
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:U Chicago takes a ton of private school kids.
They have a direct relationship with many private schools to absorb many of their strong but tier 2 students. They don’t care about poor or middle class kids at all
I wouldn't call them tier 2 students. They tend to be high-stats unhooked kids. 4.0 and 1,600 is not tier 2.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 14:52
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s second rate at all, but I do think all the massaging of the admit and yield rates has sparked a trend that overall has not been a positive for kids and families. So many schools are so focused on the ED round that the strategizing needed is worse than ever and more confusing than ever. It is dangerously easy to overshoot in ways that was not the case in a prior generation. Kids feel so much pressure to ED now and parents feel pressure to pay. Wish they didn’t.
Exactly. The school isn’t second-rate, but its admissions practices are sketchy and do hurt the reputation of the school.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 14:49
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I do believe U Chicago is one the best academic institutions in America and internationally.
If they are gaming the system is it because they are looking to attract more kids with different backgrounds to apply ?
Is it more name recognition?
They are not "gaming the system". These are posts from people who have looked at a few statistics and decided they know something everyone else is too dumb to realize and they want to show you how special they are.
Yet many of them do not have a definition for "gaming the system". Many of them claim that UChi does this to improve their ranking and don't know that these numbers are not included in the rankings and haven't been for years. They haven't done an iota of reading about the thing they are claiming. It's way past shameful and on to silly.
You people should either do your homework or stop posting on a topic you know nearly nothing about. You might misinform someone in a way that matters. Don't you care about that?
Oh do go on. You are amusing at this point.
Yes, I was talking about you. Exactly you. You are ignorant of the facts and apparently have no interest in changing that. I am glad you find that amusing. It would pain me to learn that about myself.
Man. You are so hysterically defensive. It’s funny.
This isn’t a hard math problem, my friend. What Chicago does and how the rankings are calculated are easy to figure out. You can see what the school does. I know this bothers you deeply which is why you’re having a total meltdown, but that doesn’t change the underlying mathematics.
Keep fuming.
I'm not fuming. I am continuing to be amazed on how you refuse to accept certain basic facts.
Such as the fact that acceptance rate and yield are not used in USN ranking calculations.
I know that? Like I said, the ranking calculations are easy to figure out. The stats are public. Idk why that causes you to have a total meltdown but whatever.
Anonymous
12/27/2023 14:45
Subject: UChicago Reports Nation's Highest Yield Rate 87.8% for Class of 2027
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My son never applied to U Chicago. He wanted a more fun school and ended up at a lower ivy. I think U Chicago has a hard time shaking off the slogan - Where fun goes to die. Lots of kids get turned off by that.
They should. That means it's not a good fit for them. UChicago is just different and students who are a good fit will appreciate that. Others should and do apply elsewhere.
Who actually appreciates- Where fun goes to die? Kids who believe in slogging through life? I guess I can’t relate.
Well, MIT, Caltech, and the CS students at a number of schools (e.g., Berkeley, CMU, etc.) are even tougher. Few people are smart enough to relate, but many complain about income inequality. Which profession produced the largest number of billionaires in the past three decades?
Similarly, which schools produce the largest number of quants in the hedge fund or trading industry? Look it up. UChicago’s CS is not that good because it has been too theoretical, but it produces more quants than Yale or UPenn.