Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 16:47     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.


Equity efforts will do nothing of the kind. They are simply a smokescreen that attempts to close the gap by harming the high-achieving kids. It does nothing to improve outcomes of low-achieving students so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


Lies


That isn't debatable. The strategy to close the gap by lowering the performance of top performers is well documented. and not even a subject of debate.


Yep and it's been getting worse


My first grader claims the only kids that get reading groups in their class are below grade level. I asked the teacher about it and was told they no longer even do small differentiated reading groups since covid and only provide that for remediation which happens to be about half the class. My older kid who is in high school claims that all English classes are now honors so essentially they're just calling grade level English honors these days.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 14:55     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.


Equity efforts will do nothing of the kind. They are simply a smokescreen that attempts to close the gap by harming the high-achieving kids. It does nothing to improve outcomes of low-achieving students so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


Lies


That isn't debatable. The strategy to close the gap by lowering the performance of top performers is well documented. and not even a subject of debate.


Yep and it's been getting worse
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 12:17     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.


Equity efforts will do nothing of the kind. They are simply a smokescreen that attempts to close the gap by harming the high-achieving kids. It does nothing to improve outcomes of low-achieving students so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


Lies


That isn't debatable. The strategy to close the gap by lowering the performance of top performers is well documented. and not even a subject of debate.


Bull.crap.

You have been shoveling that crap for so long that you're starting to believe it.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 11:55     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.

The only thing improving SAT scores and AP exam performance for Black and Hispanic kids are parents. I don’t understand why people still don’t get this.


Because then people have to admit there is not a fix and that we are giving up on a decent percentage of the population and we don’t want to do that. We don’t want to write off a 6 year old because they have parents who are clueless about the importance of school.

I mean, it is the parents, but saying that out loud means admitting defeat reaching most of their kids.

I just hate seeing the time, effort, and money squandered on these efforts when we could be focusing this time and energy into other areas of education. Or maybe these programs shouldn't focus on the kids but instead the parents.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 08:34     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.


Equity efforts will do nothing of the kind. They are simply a smokescreen that attempts to close the gap by harming the high-achieving kids. It does nothing to improve outcomes of low-achieving students so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


Lies


That isn't debatable. The strategy to close the gap by lowering the performance of top performers is well documented. and not even a subject of debate.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 08:12     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.


Equity efforts will do nothing of the kind. They are simply a smokescreen that attempts to close the gap by harming the high-achieving kids. It does nothing to improve outcomes of low-achieving students so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.


Lies
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 07:45     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.

The only thing improving SAT scores and AP exam performance for Black and Hispanic kids are parents. I don’t understand why people still don’t get this.


Because then people have to admit there is not a fix and that we are giving up on a decent percentage of the population and we don’t want to do that. We don’t want to write off a 6 year old because they have parents who are clueless about the importance of school.

I mean, it is the parents, but saying that out loud means admitting defeat reaching most of their kids.
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 07:11     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Only a tiny percentage of families care about TJ admissions, and of that tiny percentage most are happy their kid has a shot at admissions without having to compete with cheaters.

Did parents know that cram school had a copy of the actual test? It seens to have been really swept under the rug (I don't think the fcps teacher who stole the test was even fired?)
Anonymous
Post 10/29/2023 07:08     Subject: Re:Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:A system in which the highest-achieving kids, often Asian, are encouraged to attend various MS AAP centers, only for the same quotas to apply to all middle schools, is not one that rewards merit.


This is nonsense.
You would have a point if it was 1800s and we had segregated middle schools and Asian kids were only allowed to attend certain schools.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 15:58     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.

The only thing improving SAT scores and AP exam performance for Black and Hispanic kids are parents. I don’t understand why people still don’t get this.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 15:14     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.


Equity efforts will do nothing of the kind. They are simply a smokescreen that attempts to close the gap by harming the high-achieving kids. It does nothing to improve outcomes of low-achieving students so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 14:20     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


If equity efforts mean they can help enough Black and Hispanic kids do better on SATs and AP exams and in turn transform 50% of pyramids from less than "6/10" into "8/10" schools, then that would be a significant victory. Perhaps the most significant accomplishment in the history of FCPS.

Because until we improve those pyramids, they will continue to decline FCPS's reputation and continue to frustrate you.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 14:15     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


Not really.

-anyone who has lived anywhere else
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 14:02     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.


Or more likely won't see the decline ever since it's all spin and nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2023 09:57     Subject: Did TJ release the stats of admission by middle school?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or get spanked by the voters (parents) which I highly doubt.


If it's really as bad as everyone says it is, then the School Board elections should go overwhelmingly in the conservatives' favor.

My guess is that most parents are not nearly as unhappy as the very small subsegment of folks who comment on this board alongside the very vocal superminority on Twitter.

Not to mention the folks that were nominated for the School Board on that side are so far outside the mainstream of Fairfax County education policy as to be unrecognizable - and that several are running with the express intent of financially kneecapping the public school system....

Prepare to be disappointed. Become a serious party if you intend to create change.


It’s never “as bad as everyone says it is” for those who have their heads stuck in the sand until the distinctions that the school district once had that drew you to live here and send your kids here actually disappear.
Then you’ll be scratching your head wondering how this happened, and speaking nostalgically about how the school district used to be one of the top in the country.

These changes that happen overnight under Reid will set the course but you won’t see the decline for a few years. And once you start to notice, it will take years to reverse. And sadly, it will probably be too late. But, yay for equity I guess? After all, mediocrity for all is fair.