Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a gray area, especially if parents continue using the original address with DCPS. But if you own residential DC real estate that you don’t formally rent out, do what you want when registering in boundary. Just make sure that you pick up mail at the property you use for school residency regularly. In our experience, things will work out if you cover your bases on the residency docs and mail collection fronts. Asking permission from DCPS is the last thing you want to do, OP. Opening that can of worms would be naive and dumb.

Translation: If you commit residency fraud, don’t tell anyone and cover your tracks.

Same advice that criminals follow.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know a couple families at Brent in the upper grades who are probably boundary cheaters.They knock themselves out to keep up multiple row houses within half a mile of campus and to help the PTA. They didn’t take scarce ECE spots. I’ve never heard chatter about their residency situation. It’s not interesting to those of us who’ve been in the neighborhood for eons. We’d rather have them stick around than move to VA. Eyebrows may be raised in the part of relative newcomers to CH but the old guard doesn’t mind.

I've lived in CH for 13 years, I don't know if that makes me old guard or newcomer, but my own experience with schools and the lottery on the Hill makes me extremely resentful of this behavior. We ARE looking to move to the suburbs, in large part because of schools and the difficulty of getting into a decent elementary via lottery.

If you don't happen to own a second property on the Hill IB for a better school, and you strike out with the lottery, you are stuck with you IB. If on top of that, there are IB families who care about education and are involved with their school, but do this for LT/Brent which they get into by lying about their residence in forms, their refusal to actually attend and invest in their IB makes it harder to improve the IB.

Also, the defensive but hostile stance on this thread from boundary cheaters is deeply unpleasant and makes me like these neighbors even less.

Don't worry, I'm sure the feeling is mutual. Bye, I guess. Enjoy the dysfunctional education system you've arranged for yourselves here.

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I really hate the word and the notion that some parents are required to "invest" in a school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s a gray area, especially if parents continue using the original address with DCPS. But if you own residential DC real estate that you don’t formally rent out, do what you want when registering in boundary. Just make sure that you pick up mail at the property you use for school residency regularly. In our experience, things will work out if you cover your bases on the residency docs and mail collection fronts. Asking permission from DCPS is the last thing you want to do, OP. Opening that can of worms would be naive and dumb.

Translation: If you commit residency fraud, don’t tell anyone and cover your tracks.

Same advice that criminals follow.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The truth is, nobody is paying attention. There are lots of people who live in Maryland enrolled in DC schools. At least you're a DC taxpayer.

I live by many DC Public schools. Duke, Hyde etc..Most parents/caregivers show up to pick up students with Maryland or Virginia tags on their cars.

D.C. Finds That Almost A Quarter Of Students At Acclaimed Public Arts School Are Attending Illegally: https://wamu.org/story/18/05/11/d-c-finds-almost-quarter-students-acclaimed-public-arts-school-attending-illegally/

Why are Maryland, Virginia students in D.C. schools? Council to hold hearing on illegal enrollments.

Although many of these stories are from years ago, the abuse continues.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We know a couple families at Brent in the upper grades who are probably boundary cheaters.They knock themselves out to keep up multiple row houses within half a mile of campus and to help the PTA. They didn’t take scarce ECE spots. I’ve never heard chatter about their residency situation. It’s not interesting to those of us who’ve been in the neighborhood for eons. We’d rather have them stick around than move to VA. Eyebrows may be raised in the part of relative newcomers to CH but the old guard doesn’t mind.

I've lived in CH for 13 years, I don't know if that makes me old guard or newcomer, but my own experience with schools and the lottery on the Hill makes me extremely resentful of this behavior. We ARE looking to move to the suburbs, in large part because of schools and the difficulty of getting into a decent elementary via lottery.

If you don't happen to own a second property on the Hill IB for a better school, and you strike out with the lottery, you are stuck with you IB. If on top of that, there are IB families who care about education and are involved with their school, but do this for LT/Brent which they get into by lying about their residence in forms, their refusal to actually attend and invest in their IB makes it harder to improve the IB.

Also, the defensive but hostile stance on this thread from boundary cheaters is deeply unpleasant and makes me like these neighbors even less.

Don't worry, I'm sure the feeling is mutual. Bye, I guess. Enjoy the dysfunctional education system you've arranged for yourselves here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP above, if you're not invested in staying in the neighborhood, why care what a tiny number of Ward 6 "boundary cheaters" get up to? Sounds like you don't get that parents can't be forced to enroll their children in any particular public school, or to volunteer to try to improve the school. Sounds like you're better off focusing on your future life in the burbs than in looking back with such bitterness. -Signed Hill resident of 20 years with kids in DCPS

I'm invested in staying in the neighborhood, I just can't because our school sucks and we can't get into another one. I'm not trying to "force" anyone to send their kids to a different school.

It's just interesting that people claim they like boundary cheaters because it helps them stay in the neighborhood, but obviously you don't care if I stay in the neighborhood.

Anonymous wrote:PP above, if you're not invested in staying in the neighborhood, why care what a tiny number of Ward 6 "boundary cheaters" get up to? Sounds like you don't get that parents can't be forced to enroll their children in any particular public school, or to volunteer to try to improve the school. Sounds like you're better off focusing on your future life in the burbs than in looking back with such bitterness. -Signed Hill resident of 20 years with kids in DCPS

Anonymous wrote:It’s a gray area, especially if parents continue using the original address with DCPS. But if you own residential DC real estate that you don’t formally rent out, do what you want when registering in boundary. Just make sure that you pick up mail at the property you use for school residency regularly. In our experience, things will work out if you cover your bases on the residency docs and mail collection fronts. Asking permission from DCPS is the last thing you want to do, OP. Opening that can of worms would be naive and dumb.

Anonymous wrote:We know a couple families at Brent in the upper grades who are probably boundary cheaters.They knock themselves out to keep up multiple row houses within half a mile of campus and to help the PTA. They didn’t take scarce ECE spots. I’ve never heard chatter about their residency situation. It’s not interesting to those of us who’ve been in the neighborhood for eons. We’d rather have them stick around than move to VA. Eyebrows may be raised in the part of relative newcomers to CH but the old guard doesn’t mind.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The truth is, nobody is paying attention. There are lots of people who live in Maryland enrolled in DC schools. At least you're a DC taxpayer.

I live by many DC Public schools. Duke, Hyde etc..Most parents/caregivers show up to pick up students with Maryland or Virginia tags on their cars.

D.C. Finds That Almost A Quarter Of Students At Acclaimed Public Arts School Are Attending Illegally: https://wamu.org/story/18/05/11/d-c-finds-almost-quarter-students-acclaimed-public-arts-school-attending-illegally/

Why are Maryland, Virginia students in D.C. schools? Council to hold hearing on illegal enrollments.

Although many of these stories are from years ago, the abuse continues.

Anonymous wrote:I think there are two conversations being had here:

1) Is it possible to claim an address you own but don't live in for purposes of getting into a better DCPS, even if you live OOB? The answer is yes, it is possible. As long as you get mail there and feel comfortable with the lie (and it is a lie, it's not your residence if you don't live there), you can do this and OSSE has made it clear they don't investigate or prosecute it.

2) Do people in DC consider this a cool and honorable way to get your kid into the DCPS of your choice? While I see there are posters claiming that yes, people are fine with this, there are clearly quite a few people how think it's crappy. Some people may not care what others think and will do it anyway, other people might decide it's not worth the judgment. I personally would be most uncomfortable with the message it sends to my kids, as the kids WILL figure it out at some point. I don't know about the wisdom of teaching children that taking advantage of a loophole by being somewhat dishonest is a good way of gaining advantage over others. YMMV.

Anonymous wrote:The truth is, nobody is paying attention. There are lots of people who live in Maryland enrolled in DC schools. At least you're a DC taxpayer.