Anonymous
08/03/2023 21:48
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:West Point
Annapolis
Nearly any of the other service academies
No offense but these folks have multiple talents to include athleticism, leadership and spatial, community service.
You are going to enter the last true meritocracy in America.
All of the others can be bought.
I’m sorry, but overall the kids at the service academies are academically blown out of the water by most kids at T10 schools. And many of those kids will just work out/participate in intramural or club sports on their own. People who are going to push the boundaries in math, science, etc. don’t enroll at service academies.
NP. Agree with the PP. The post didn’t specify best academic institution. It asked about most prestigious. The service academies are absolutely equally prestigious as many school mentioned due to requiring multiple talents and mental/physical fortitude far beyond other institutions. You can’t buy your way in and a perfect test score won’t help you either. You need to be a far more well rounded person than just a good test taker and starting a non profit.
PP. Thank you. Put another way: I have never been unimpressed with a single grad from a service academy. I can’t say the same for ANY of the other institutions mentioned. In addition, while the service academies attract a large number of applicants because they are free to attend you ARE putting your life on the line for something larger. Can you say that about ANY Yale admit?
I’ve been unimpressed by graduates of Annapolis and West Point who’ve entered the civilian world and been quite mediocre.
Not my experience. They are good leaders and have excellent work ethic. This is subjective but I am more impressed when I hear of someone’s child graduating from West Point and Annapolis. There school experience so much harder in many ways. It is way beyond just studying for tests and getting good grades. I’ve met plenty of top 10 school grads that are very ordinary in every way working regular jobs. I sometimes wonder why they spent all that money for an “elite” school.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 21:48
Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
The USMC. I went to two of the most prestigious undergrad and grad programs on the planet and my stint in the Marines vastly exceeds either for true life prep.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 21:28
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just being real, not state schools. Not even IC Berkeley. Of course HYPMS, but also the “lower” Ivies and also the odd private school like Northwestern and Emory and probably a few more if I really thought about it.
FWIW I have a relative who attended Emory in undergrad (now employed as a physician). She did not realize, in her forties, that Spain was not an actor in World War 2.
Probably opted out of European history by taking AP classes in high school, like most folks who attend these schools.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 20:58
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:West Point
Annapolis
Nearly any of the other service academies
No offense but these folks have multiple talents to include athleticism, leadership and spatial, community service.
You are going to enter the last true meritocracy in America.
All of the others can be bought.
I’m sorry, but overall the kids at the service academies are academically blown out of the water by most kids at T10 schools. And many of those kids will just work out/participate in intramural or club sports on their own. People who are going to push the boundaries in math, science, etc. don’t enroll at service academies.
NP. Agree with the PP. The post didn’t specify best academic institution. It asked about most prestigious. The service academies are absolutely equally prestigious as many school mentioned due to requiring multiple talents and mental/physical fortitude far beyond other institutions. You can’t buy your way in and a perfect test score won’t help you either. You need to be a far more well rounded person than just a good test taker and starting a non profit.
PP. Thank you. Put another way: I have never been unimpressed with a single grad from a service academy. I can’t say the same for ANY of the other institutions mentioned. In addition, while the service academies attract a large number of applicants because they are free to attend you ARE putting your life on the line for something larger. Can you say that about ANY Yale admit?
Lol, most of the people are putting their “life on the line” due to indoctrination about the honor in it, or because they need the financial benefits. No one wants to partake in war.
Well, no one wants to participate in war. But the young people going to West Point or Annapolis or are doing ROTC at elite schools are generally there because they want to challenge themselves. Those kids are a hell of a lot tougher than the full pay kids at Harvard, Yale, or Stanford.
It takes a lot more to choose that avenue. Not only are they impressive academically, but they're extremely fit and demonstrably good people. It's a very small percentage of 18 year olds that can get a Congressional Nomination or a four year ROTC scholarship.
The dismisveness some people here have for young people choosing academies or ROTC at top schools is very misplaced. They are not brainwashed idiots. They are not a bunch of rubes. The financial awards are certainly significant. $250,000 is a lot of money for most people. But any kid going to West Point or Princeton ROTC has other options.
It's not a surprise that the corporate and consulting worlds love these people.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 20:49
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just being real, not state schools. Not even IC Berkeley. Of course HYPMS, but also the “lower” Ivies and also the odd private school like Northwestern and Emory and probably a few more if I really thought about it.
FWIW I have a relative who attended Emory in undergrad (now employed as a physician). She did not realize, in her forties, that Spain was not an actor in World War 2.
I met a Harvard grad who had never heard of Thomas Mann.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 20:46
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:West Point
Annapolis
Nearly any of the other service academies
No offense but these folks have multiple talents to include athleticism, leadership and spatial, community service.
You are going to enter the last true meritocracy in America.
All of the others can be bought.
I’m sorry, but overall the kids at the service academies are academically blown out of the water by most kids at T10 schools. And many of those kids will just work out/participate in intramural or club sports on their own. People who are going to push the boundaries in math, science, etc. don’t enroll at service academies.
NP. Agree with the PP. The post didn’t specify best academic institution. It asked about most prestigious. The service academies are absolutely equally prestigious as many school mentioned due to requiring multiple talents and mental/physical fortitude far beyond other institutions. You can’t buy your way in and a perfect test score won’t help you either. You need to be a far more well rounded person than just a good test taker and starting a non profit.
PP. Thank you. Put another way: I have never been unimpressed with a single grad from a service academy. I can’t say the same for ANY of the other institutions mentioned. In addition, while the service academies attract a large number of applicants because they are free to attend you ARE putting your life on the line for something larger. Can you say that about ANY Yale admit?
I’ve been unimpressed by graduates of Annapolis and West Point who’ve entered the civilian world and been quite mediocre.
+1000 many of them just aren't particularly sharp. It's obvious there are a few military boosters trying to pull service academies into a conversation they shouldn't be in. Give me a kid from Harvard, Duke, Caltech, UPenn, etc. any day.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 20:36
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:West Point
Annapolis
Nearly any of the other service academies
No offense but these folks have multiple talents to include athleticism, leadership and spatial, community service.
You are going to enter the last true meritocracy in America.
All of the others can be bought.
I’m sorry, but overall the kids at the service academies are academically blown out of the water by most kids at T10 schools. And many of those kids will just work out/participate in intramural or club sports on their own. People who are going to push the boundaries in math, science, etc. don’t enroll at service academies.
NP. Agree with the PP. The post didn’t specify best academic institution. It asked about most prestigious. The service academies are absolutely equally prestigious as many school mentioned due to requiring multiple talents and mental/physical fortitude far beyond other institutions. You can’t buy your way in and a perfect test score won’t help you either. You need to be a far more well rounded person than just a good test taker and starting a non profit.
PP. Thank you. Put another way: I have never been unimpressed with a single grad from a service academy. I can’t say the same for ANY of the other institutions mentioned. In addition, while the service academies attract a large number of applicants because they are free to attend you ARE putting your life on the line for something larger. Can you say that about ANY Yale admit?
I’ve been unimpressed by graduates of Annapolis and West Point who’ve entered the civilian world and been quite mediocre.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 20:24
Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A comprehensive list based upon wide consensus would probably include the following colleges and universities:
Amherst, Barnard, Bates, Bowdoin, Brown, Bryn Mawr, Cal (Berkeley), Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, Carleton, Chicago, Colby, Colgate, Columbia, Cornell, Claremont McKenna, Curtis (Institute of Music), Dartmouth, Davidson, Duke, Emory, Georgetown, Grinnell, Hamilton, Haverford, Harvard, Harvey Mudd, Howard, Johns Hopkins, Juilliard, Kenyon, Michigan, Middlebury, MIT, Mount Holyoke, Northwestern, Notre Dame, NYU, Oberlin, Olin, Penn, Pomona, Princeton, Reed, Rice, RISD, Scripps, Spelman, Stanford, St. John's College (Annapolis & Santa Fe), Smith, Swarthmore, UCLA, UNC, USC, UT Austin, UVA, Vanderbilt, Vassar, Washington & Lee, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Williams, Wisconsin (Madison), WUSTL, Yale and the U.S. academies (West Point et al).
So approximately 70 schools out of 653 national university and liberal arts colleges combined according to U.S. News and World Report which in turn is approximately 2.5% of all 4-year U.S. colleges and universities and 1.6% of all U.S. colleges and universities.
Barnard, Bates, Colby, Washington and Lee, Colgate??? No way.
This is a good starting point. The real gems can then be found by taking out legacy, first gen, athletic recruits, ED1 and ED2 admits with full pays, z list, back door entries, side door entries, etc.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 20:08
Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
John Hopkins
Anonymous
08/03/2023 19:57
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
This is so funny. But more pathetic than funny. Who are y’all appealing to? Do you actually think you’ll be influencing future classes to skip applying to (insert top 20 US news here) based on your posts? What is the point of this? Can college forum be more useful than this??
Anonymous
08/03/2023 19:54
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Stop pretending these schools are prestigious.
Only Harvard.
Only Harvard.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 18:43
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:West Point
Annapolis
Nearly any of the other service academies
No offense but these folks have multiple talents to include athleticism, leadership and spatial, community service.
You are going to enter the last true meritocracy in America.
All of the others can be bought.
I’m sorry, but overall the kids at the service academies are academically blown out of the water by most kids at T10 schools. And many of those kids will just work out/participate in intramural or club sports on their own. People who are going to push the boundaries in math, science, etc. don’t enroll at service academies.
NP. Agree with the PP. The post didn’t specify best academic institution. It asked about most prestigious. The service academies are absolutely equally prestigious as many school mentioned due to requiring multiple talents and mental/physical fortitude far beyond other institutions. You can’t buy your way in and a perfect test score won’t help you either. You need to be a far more well rounded person than just a good test taker and starting a non profit.
PP. Thank you. Put another way: I have never been unimpressed with a single grad from a service academy. I can’t say the same for ANY of the other institutions mentioned. In addition, while the service academies attract a large number of applicants because they are free to attend you ARE putting your life on the line for something larger. Can you say that about ANY Yale admit?
Lol, most of the people are putting their “life on the line” due to indoctrination about the honor in it, or because they need the financial benefits. No one wants to partake in war.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 18:36
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:West Point
Annapolis
Nearly any of the other service academies
No offense but these folks have multiple talents to include athleticism, leadership and spatial, community service.
You are going to enter the last true meritocracy in America.
All of the others can be bought.
I’m sorry, but overall the kids at the service academies are academically blown out of the water by most kids at T10 schools. And many of those kids will just work out/participate in intramural or club sports on their own. People who are going to push the boundaries in math, science, etc. don’t enroll at service academies.
NP. Agree with the PP. The post didn’t specify best academic institution. It asked about most prestigious. The service academies are absolutely equally prestigious as many school mentioned due to requiring multiple talents and mental/physical fortitude far beyond other institutions. You can’t buy your way in and a perfect test score won’t help you either. You need to be a far more well rounded person than just a good test taker and starting a non profit.
PP. Thank you. Put another way: I have never been unimpressed with a single grad from a service academy. I can’t say the same for ANY of the other institutions mentioned. In addition, while the service academies attract a large number of applicants because they are free to attend you ARE putting your life on the line for something larger. Can you say that about ANY Yale admit?
Anonymous
08/03/2023 18:31
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Hopkins
Annapolis
West Point
MIT
Stanford
These are the institutions most important to the United States.
This is the right answer.
Anonymous
08/03/2023 18:27
Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, Chicago and Duke