Anonymous
Post 07/10/2023 01:48     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Florida welcomes intellectuals who allow academic freedom. Indoctrination is not welcome.



I know you believe this. But academicians in all disciplines are worried about Florida. Chemistry professors, CS professors, engineering professors, as well as humanities professors. There is a suppression of intellectual freedom by govt which is really problematic.


From what I've heard, these professors are more worried about being forced by the college to include CRT and equity in their curriculum.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 22:46     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Florida welcomes intellectuals who allow academic freedom. Indoctrination is not welcome.



I know you believe this. But academicians in all disciplines are worried about Florida. Chemistry professors, CS professors, engineering professors, as well as humanities professors. There is a suppression of intellectual freedom by govt which is really problematic.



You mean like refusing to allow open scientific inquiry about things like the efficacy of wearing masks, etc?


We want Florida to be as enlightened as the faculty and students at Stanford Law.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 22:44     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:and i know that the idiots who support this are about to come to this thread to say good, who needs professors anyway

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/07/06/are-florida-laws-chasing-university-faculty-away-some-see-brain-drain/



FLA reaps what it sows. So, no. I don't care. My kid isn't going to school there under any circumstance. So, we're good.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 21:56     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Florida welcomes intellectuals who allow academic freedom. Indoctrination is not welcome.



I know you believe this. But academicians in all disciplines are worried about Florida. Chemistry professors, CS professors, engineering professors, as well as humanities professors. There is a suppression of intellectual freedom by govt which is really problematic.



You mean like refusing to allow open scientific inquiry about things like the efficacy of wearing masks, etc?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 21:49     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no, what will Florida ever do without ecology and social justice professors!


You understand that having miles of beaches unusable because of ecology issues becomes and economic development and revenue problem, right?


+1

If that was a real person, yikes. Scary to think how ignorant people are…
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 20:57     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:Are tenure track positions at UF and FSU and Miami really going unfilled?

Given the academic job market I can’t imagine people turning down jobs at UF or FSU or Miami unless they are total superstars


just read the article in the original post
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 20:00     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Are tenure track positions at UF and FSU and Miami really going unfilled?

Given the academic job market I can’t imagine people turning down jobs at UF or FSU or Miami unless they are total superstars
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 14:01     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like this, too, idiots?



DeSantis halted the hiring of a new college president because his unqualified buddy didn't get far enough in the selection process.

Is this what academic freedom looks like?


Reading the letter, the name of DeSantis's buddy doesn't come up, but instead complaints about the search firm was asking candidates for their preferred pronouns and whether they are queer or transgender, and the search committee was given a selection of names to vote on, with no prior discussion.


Followup, I misunderstood the tweet as Randy Fine didn't get to make the choice of who would be president, rather than he wasn't picked to be president.


Yep, DeSantis put the search on hold because his friend wasn't picked to be president.

It's ironic that the people who love him are supposedly so anti-communist because his purge of teachers and professors, and sweet appointments for his loyalists, sure does seem like it comes from the CCP playbook.

+1
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 13:59     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Florida welcomes intellectuals who allow academic freedom. Indoctrination is not welcome.



I know you believe this. But academicians in all disciplines are worried about Florida. Chemistry professors, CS professors, engineering professors, as well as humanities professors. There is a suppression of intellectual freedom by govt which is really problematic.

How well that worked out with covid.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 13:59     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like this, too, idiots?



DeSantis halted the hiring of a new college president because his unqualified buddy didn't get far enough in the selection process.

Is this what academic freedom looks like?


Reading the letter, the name of DeSantis's buddy doesn't come up, but instead complaints about the search firm was asking candidates for their preferred pronouns and whether they are queer or transgender, and the search committee was given a selection of names to vote on, with no prior discussion.


Followup, I misunderstood the tweet as Randy Fine didn't get to make the choice of who would be president, rather than he wasn't picked to be president.


Yep, DeSantis put the search on hold because his friend wasn't picked to be president.

It's ironic that the people who love him are supposedly so anti-communist because his purge of teachers and professors, and sweet appointments for his loyalists, sure does seem like it comes from the CCP playbook.

This sounds like someone Ron would have as a friend.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 13:54     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Florida welcomes intellectuals who allow academic freedom. Indoctrination is not welcome.



I know you believe this. But academicians in all disciplines are worried about Florida. Chemistry professors, CS professors, engineering professors, as well as humanities professors. There is a suppression of intellectual freedom by govt which is really problematic.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 13:47     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good let the snowflakes leave. Frees up slots for open minded and tolerant professors. It’s about time a state restored sanity to the educational system.


I know you're just an ignorant troll. But it's not "snowflakes" who are leaving. It's professors who are worried both about the tenure system - and also about the ambiguity and uncertainty about the new anti-woke standards. You're not running out all the gender studies professors - you're running out all kinds of professors who are worried that anything they do can be reported to some stasi board, and who knows what will happen.

Basically, in all departments, what you're going to be left with are professors who have no other options. Anyone who can get tenure in another state, will take that opportunity.

I know you don't actually care about that. But it is serious.


Tenure is on its way out regardless of school or ideology.

Good.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 13:44     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like this, too, idiots?



DeSantis halted the hiring of a new college president because his unqualified buddy didn't get far enough in the selection process.

Is this what academic freedom looks like?


Reading the letter, the name of DeSantis's buddy doesn't come up, but instead complaints about the search firm was asking candidates for their preferred pronouns and whether they are queer or transgender, and the search committee was given a selection of names to vote on, with no prior discussion.


Followup, I misunderstood the tweet as Randy Fine didn't get to make the choice of who would be president, rather than he wasn't picked to be president.


Yep, DeSantis put the search on hold because his friend wasn't picked to be president.

It's ironic that the people who love him are supposedly so anti-communist because his purge of teachers and professors, and sweet appointments for his loyalists, sure does seem like it comes from the CCP playbook.

As with so much in the regressive world, they were projecting their own plans onto others.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 13:40     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like this, too, idiots?



DeSantis halted the hiring of a new college president because his unqualified buddy didn't get far enough in the selection process.

Is this what academic freedom looks like?


Reading the letter, the name of DeSantis's buddy doesn't come up, but instead complaints about the search firm was asking candidates for their preferred pronouns and whether they are queer or transgender, and the search committee was given a selection of names to vote on, with no prior discussion.


Followup, I misunderstood the tweet as Randy Fine didn't get to make the choice of who would be president, rather than he wasn't picked to be president.


Yep, DeSantis put the search on hold because his friend wasn't picked to be president.

It's ironic that the people who love him are supposedly so anti-communist because his purge of teachers and professors, and sweet appointments for his loyalists, sure does seem like it comes from the CCP playbook.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2023 13:32     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

Anonymous wrote:
Florida welcomes intellectuals who allow academic freedom. Indoctrination is not welcome.

Tell everyone at New College of Florida that, I don’t think they’ll agree.