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Anonymous wrote:I was reading that they have apparently 96hrs of oxygen supply. If the sub still has oxygen. It can’t return to the surface that sounds like a slow and excruciating death.

I hate to say it, but they’re better off being crushed.

Can you explain why they can't resurface? I don't understand.

It’s more that if they haven’t yet, there is probably catastrophic failure preventing it. David Pogue has been on this vehicle and said it has 7 ways to surface, with or without power. If they haven’t AND aren’t communicating, the craft is likely gone or obliterated.

Is it possible it emerged and they haven't located it yet? (ie its floating somewhere and they are trapped inside). Or would that be easy to spot?

One of the rescue planes is looking at the surface for them. So yes, that is the hope - that they have surfaced and are found there.

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Anonymous wrote:I was reading that they have apparently 96hrs of oxygen supply. If the sub still has oxygen. It can’t return to the surface that sounds like a slow and excruciating death.

I hate to say it, but they’re better off being crushed.

Can you explain why they can't resurface? I don't understand.

It’s more that if they haven’t yet, there is probably catastrophic failure preventing it. David Pogue has been on this vehicle and said it has 7 ways to surface, with or without power. If they haven’t AND aren’t communicating, the craft is likely gone or obliterated.

Is it possible it emerged and they haven't located it yet? (ie its floating somewhere and they are trapped inside). Or would that be easy to spot?

Yes, that is why the US Coast Guard has C-130s flying over an area about the size of Connecticut trying to locate the submersible on the surface. Depending on the weather conditions it can be incredibly difficult to spot an object that small on the surface of the ocean without any beacon to guide rescuers. It is sadly entirely possible that they could float on the surface and suffocate before they are found, assuming they ever surfaced.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel so sorry for the teenager on board. While technically an adult, he certainly didn’t pay for it himself. Surely the father knew the risks and made what he thought was an informed decision- fine- but why bring a teen along? So sad.

The boy isn’t 4. He must have asked to go.

19 year olds are notoriously great at risk assessment and their deep understanding of their own mortality.

Yeah look at the HS kid who jumped off a ship on his graduation trip in the Bahamas while drunk. Boys around this age seem to have little concept of risk/death. And he probably trusted his father knew it was safe.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the mother/wife, who has just lost her husband and one of her sons in one fell swoop. She'll inherit a fortune but she'll be traumatized for the rest of her life thinking about how they died as all the scenarios are just awful.

A recent story with interesting graphics and commentary from a prior diver: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12214387/Titanic-diver-whos-wreck-fears-missing-OceanGate-sub-imploded-10-000-feet-underwater.html

According to this article, there is one person who is thought to be on board but they aren’t sure. How does this happen? It’s a small group in there. I assume the company has a passenger list. Shouldn’t they know 100% who they sent down to the depths of the ocean? Wouldn’t there be an emergency contact or something?

I think the pilot is the only person who hadn’t been confirmed as on board. That’s likely because of the company’s media policies or whatever. They *know* who is on board, there is no mystery there.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they have to pay the cost of the search and rescue/recovery efforts. Utter BS. It’s like the people who set sail for another continent with a week of food and an old boat radio.

+1000

Taxpayers should not have to pay to rescue these fools.

Guys they’re dead, you can’t bill them

Why can’t you bill their estate?

Billing people for SAR makes it less likely that the next person will be willing to call for help when necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:I was reading that they have apparently 96hrs of oxygen supply. If the sub still has oxygen. It can’t return to the surface that sounds like a slow and excruciating death.

I hate to say it, but they’re better off being crushed.

Can you explain why they can't resurface? I don't understand.

It’s more that if they haven’t yet, there is probably catastrophic failure preventing it. David Pogue has been on this vehicle and said it has 7 ways to surface, with or without power. If they haven’t AND aren’t communicating, the craft is likely gone or obliterated.

Is it possible it emerged and they haven't located it yet? (ie its floating somewhere and they are trapped inside). Or would that be easy to spot?

Anonymous wrote:I feel sorry for the mother/wife, who has just lost her husband and one of her sons in one fell swoop. She'll inherit a fortune but she'll be traumatized for the rest of her life thinking about how they died as all the scenarios are just awful.

A recent story with interesting graphics and commentary from a prior diver: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12214387/Titanic-diver-whos-wreck-fears-missing-OceanGate-sub-imploded-10-000-feet-underwater.html

According to this article, there is one person who is thought to be on board but they aren’t sure. How does this happen? It’s a small group in there. I assume the company has a passenger list. Shouldn’t they know 100% who they sent down to the depths of the ocean? Wouldn’t there be an emergency contact or something?

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Anonymous wrote:That craft is about the size of a coffee mug now.

Dumb question about this. But the titanic is obviously not crushed. So once there is a hull breach wouldn't that equalize pressure and it wouldn't be crushed? I don't understand how this all works.

Rapid de-pressurization is a violent event. And even more so at 6000 pounds of pressure per square inch.

Read this conversation to get a better idea of what happens to the human body:

What would happen to a human body subjected to extreme water pressure?
https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/134156/what-would-happen-to-a-human-body-subjected-to-extreme-water-pressure

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we wasting our resources on these idiots?

We try to rescue people. Usually because they did something dumb. Because it's the right thing to do.

Nobody tried to rescue those 700 migrants currently sitting on the floor of the Mediterranean Sea. I wonder why.

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Anonymous wrote:That craft is about the size of a coffee mug now.

Dumb question about this. But the titanic is obviously not crushed. So once there is a hull breach wouldn't that equalize pressure and it wouldn't be crushed? I don't understand how this all works.

Rapid de-pressurization is a violent event. And even more so at 6000 pounds of pressure per square inch.

Anonymous wrote:Why are we wasting our resources on these idiots?

We try to rescue people. Usually because they did something dumb. Because it's the right thing to do.

I used to work at Atlantis Submarines in Hawaii and they automatically resurface if there's an issue and are considered quite safe. But they aren't going down to the depths of this one, only about 100 feet down. Also the captains are trained in the Navy, not sure about this captain. Don't let this deter you, its a fun ride.

Anonymous wrote:That craft is about the size of a coffee mug now.

Dumb question about this. But the titanic is obviously not crushed. So once there is a hull breach wouldn't that equalize pressure and it wouldn't be crushed? I don't understand how this all works.

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Anonymous wrote:I was reading that they have apparently 96hrs of oxygen supply. If the sub still has oxygen. It can’t return to the surface that sounds like a slow and excruciating death.

I hate to say it, but they’re better off being crushed.

Can you explain why they can't resurface? I don't understand.

It’s more that if they haven’t yet, there is probably catastrophic failure preventing it. David Pogue has been on this vehicle and said it has 7 ways to surface, with or without power. If they haven’t AND aren’t communicating, the craft is likely gone or obliterated.

Why are we wasting our resources on these idiots?