Anonymous
05/18/2023 13:41
Subject: Re:NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry you grew up in a crap town but there are places like Saratoga, Lake Placid, Ithaca and all along the Hudson Valley and Columbia County that are pretty and cute.
Shhh don’t give the secrets away!
Ok, I love the mountains. I particularly love the Adirondacks, but these towns are all very very depressing. They are relics of the past, skeletons of what they once were. The economic despair is no joke in those areas. The northeast is rotting.
Definitely not all of them. You just aren’t aware of the ones that aren’t.
Most of them are like this. Beyond Saratoga Springs and a small number of others, the majority of small towns are economically depressed.
This. Grew up there, go back frequently, and my home town had become full of city transplants. But it’s still nowhere near as vibrant as the DMV. Sorry.
Vibrancy isn’t in the value proposition for living outside of urban/suburban areas.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 13:25
Subject: Re:NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry you grew up in a crap town but there are places like Saratoga, Lake Placid, Ithaca and all along the Hudson Valley and Columbia County that are pretty and cute.
Shhh don’t give the secrets away!
Ok, I love the mountains. I particularly love the Adirondacks, but these towns are all very very depressing. They are relics of the past, skeletons of what they once were. The economic despair is no joke in those areas. The northeast is rotting.
Definitely not all of them. You just aren’t aware of the ones that aren’t.
Most of them are like this. Beyond Saratoga Springs and a small number of others, the majority of small towns are economically depressed.
This. Grew up there, go back frequently, and my home town had become full of city transplants. But it’s still nowhere near as vibrant as the DMV. Sorry.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 13:12
Subject: Re:NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry you grew up in a crap town but there are places like Saratoga, Lake Placid, Ithaca and all along the Hudson Valley and Columbia County that are pretty and cute.
Shhh don’t give the secrets away!
Ok, I love the mountains. I particularly love the Adirondacks, but these towns are all very very depressing. They are relics of the past, skeletons of what they once were. The economic despair is no joke in those areas. The northeast is rotting.
Definitely not all of them. You just aren’t aware of the ones that aren’t.
Most of them are like this. Beyond Saratoga Springs and a small number of others, the majority of small towns are economically depressed.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 12:40
Subject: NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We left dc and it was the best decision we made. Our kids go to a strong public in our new, small city. The mental load here is so much less - less competitive professionally and academically, cost of living is about 60% less than dc, there is little traffic. We have everything we need, albeit no world class museums or a multitude of fine dining restaurants, but we don’t miss those things that much. We have calm, normal neighbors who do normal things and take normal vacations. My kids aren’t in a pressure cooker school yet still seems to be learning a ton and doing great on standardized testing. Their college options are better coming from here than close in DMV. We have room to breathe. We moved about 4 years ago and our house has appreciated about 50%.
Congratulations on the mediocrity.
Agree. Boring. Must most people are mediocre at best. Best they leave.
I think if you can’t compete professionally and/or have kids who are just average in academic or sports, the DC area can definitely be a bit much. Prepandemic, my coworkers and friends who talked about leaving were usually the ones who had reached a ceiling at work, or whose kids were struggling (academically and/or socially) or who were struggling in general without family nearby to help with childcare.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 12:33
Subject: NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
I live in Hyattsville, MD and really love it here, having moved from Capital Hill. We love our house with a large backyard and our walkable neighborhood close to public transport and everything we need is within 5-10 min drive.
I absolutely love the proximity to DC for the cultural events and museums and restaurants, when we’re tired of the options we have near us. We’re close to recreational trails. People are less pretentious around here as to their kids activities and education and their own work (as compared to cap hill and Montgomery county suburbs).
I absolutely love the proximity to DC for the cultural events and museums and restaurants, when we’re tired of the options we have near us. We’re close to recreational trails. People are less pretentious around here as to their kids activities and education and their own work (as compared to cap hill and Montgomery county suburbs).
Anonymous
05/18/2023 11:11
Subject: NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We left dc and it was the best decision we made. Our kids go to a strong public in our new, small city. The mental load here is so much less - less competitive professionally and academically, cost of living is about 60% less than dc, there is little traffic. We have everything we need, albeit no world class museums or a multitude of fine dining restaurants, but we don’t miss those things that much. We have calm, normal neighbors who do normal things and take normal vacations. My kids aren’t in a pressure cooker school yet still seems to be learning a ton and doing great on standardized testing. Their college options are better coming from here than close in DMV. We have room to breathe. We moved about 4 years ago and our house has appreciated about 50%.
Congratulations on the mediocrity.
Agree. Boring. Must most people are mediocre at best. Best they leave.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 10:23
Subject: Re:NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry you grew up in a crap town but there are places like Saratoga, Lake Placid, Ithaca and all along the Hudson Valley and Columbia County that are pretty and cute.
Shhh don’t give the secrets away!
Ok, I love the mountains. I particularly love the Adirondacks, but these towns are all very very depressing. They are relics of the past, skeletons of what they once were. The economic despair is no joke in those areas. The northeast is rotting.
Definitely not all of them. You just aren’t aware of the ones that aren’t.
Hush
Anonymous
05/18/2023 09:32
Subject: NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Everyone on this thread that thinks living in the country is terrible, you’re right! Don’t move here, you’ll be eaten by coyotes, starve without access to food, and go insane never seeing a fellow city person. Don’t even visit! It could be dangerous. Best to stay put where you know you’re safe.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 08:24
Subject: Re:NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry you grew up in a crap town but there are places like Saratoga, Lake Placid, Ithaca and all along the Hudson Valley and Columbia County that are pretty and cute.
Shhh don’t give the secrets away!
Ok, I love the mountains. I particularly love the Adirondacks, but these towns are all very very depressing. They are relics of the past, skeletons of what they once were. The economic despair is no joke in those areas. The northeast is rotting.
Definitely not all of them. You just aren’t aware of the ones that aren’t.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 08:23
Subject: NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Any time an article picks out the pandemic as the time to write about, I take it with a grain of salt.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 08:23
Subject: Re:NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry you grew up in a crap town but there are places like Saratoga, Lake Placid, Ithaca and all along the Hudson Valley and Columbia County that are pretty and cute.
Shhh don’t give the secrets away!
Ok, I love the mountains. I particularly love the Adirondacks, but these towns are all very very depressing. They are relics of the past, skeletons of what they once were. The economic despair is no joke in those areas. The northeast is rotting.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 08:19
Subject: NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These stats are from pandemic era. We are back to in person work. When older college educated leave for single family homes and schools, new college graduates move in. Obviously, rich can afford housing and private schools so these aren't deciding factors for them, careers progress and business opportunities are.
No we’re not.
A lot of jobs are in-person, hybrid or will be. If not your current job then your next job or spouse's job would need commute.
You do realize remote work existed before Covid, right? It’s not a new phenomenon.
I know, right? I’ve been reading this exchange and laughing. Both DH and I have been remote for a decade. All DH needs is for us to live near a major airport, preferably a United hub.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 08:10
Subject: Re:NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s too crowded, nobody goes here anymore.
I think the point is that it's getting less crowded.
No it isn’t, it’s only gotten more expensive
Anonymous
05/18/2023 08:09
Subject: Re:NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
Anonymous wrote:It’s too crowded, nobody goes here anymore.
I think the point is that it's getting less crowded.
Anonymous
05/18/2023 08:09
Subject: NYTimes: College educated workers are leaving DC due to high housing costs
You can move to Delaware. Philly is only about a 30 minute train ride or 30 minutes by car for jobs. Brandywine valley has nice homes. Way lower cost of living in Delaware, and you still have great location of driving to DC, Philly, and NY. You gotta give up some amenities, but in return you get much lower cost of living. Schools suck, but you can go private and still make out better.