Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:55
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:This was murder which was noted by the corner and he should be charged.
Has the coroner gotten the toxicology results back yet?
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:55
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy is getting charged, I guarantee it. No reason to put someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, especially with other men helping to contain the mentally ill man.
It was disproportionate use of force relative to the risk. No gun or knife was drawn.
He didn't seem to active have him in a chokehold for 15 minutes. According to the phone video, he had him in a chokehold for some time and when he stopped kicking (passed out), let go.
Holding him until he stopped flailing doesn't seem disproportionate. Up until then, the unhoused person was dangerous.
Yes it was approx 15 min.
If someone had you in a choke hold for just being loud you would also fight for your life.
Waiting until he is dead is too long.
The Marine picked a good one to chokehold, someone who was behaving frighteningly and attacking other passengers and had a history of attacking people.
Funny how he just happened to pick someone with a lengthy history of violence. Wonder how that could have happened?
It’s called profiling and it’s illegal
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:53
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
This was murder which was noted by the corner and he should be charged.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:50
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy is getting charged, I guarantee it. No reason to put someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, especially with other men helping to contain the mentally ill man.
It was disproportionate use of force relative to the risk. No gun or knife was drawn.
He didn't seem to active have him in a chokehold for 15 minutes. According to the phone video, he had him in a chokehold for some time and when he stopped kicking (passed out), let go.
Holding him until he stopped flailing doesn't seem disproportionate. Up until then, the unhoused person was dangerous.
His housing situation did not cause his mental illness. More likely the other way around, so call him the mentally ill person, not the homeless person.
Unhoused person. What an effing joke.
The bleeding hearts who are defending this crazy person roaming the subways don't even realize that the nonviolent homeless people are probably relieved they won't have to deal with him anymore.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:46
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy is getting charged, I guarantee it. No reason to put someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, especially with other men helping to contain the mentally ill man.
It was disproportionate use of force relative to the risk. No gun or knife was drawn.
He didn't seem to active have him in a chokehold for 15 minutes. According to the phone video, he had him in a chokehold for some time and when he stopped kicking (passed out), let go.
Holding him until he stopped flailing doesn't seem disproportionate. Up until then, the unhoused person was dangerous.
His housing situation did not cause his mental illness. More likely the other way around, so call him the mentally ill person, not the homeless person.
Unhoused person. What an effing joke.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:43
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy is getting charged, I guarantee it. No reason to put someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, especially with other men helping to contain the mentally ill man.
It was disproportionate use of force relative to the risk. No gun or knife was drawn.
The fact that there is such a debate over the Marine’s actions demonstrates why he won’t be indicted. You will not be able to get a group of people to unanimously agree to indict or convict him. At some point there will be complete video of the homeless guy’s behavior that comes out and it will show him acting aggressive and threatening and not merely saying he was hungry and thirsty and that will be it.
You don't need a unanimous vote to indict, just 12 of 23 in New York.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:39
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
You know, this pisses me off. This is why we need our Government to actively monitor, house, treat, and/or arrest psychotic individuals. There are SO MANY of them, and without law enforcement or social services intervening, people have no choice but to protect themselves. This could have all been avoided.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:38
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy is getting charged, I guarantee it. No reason to put someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, especially with other men helping to contain the mentally ill man.
It was disproportionate use of force relative to the risk. No gun or knife was drawn.
He didn't seem to active have him in a chokehold for 15 minutes. According to the phone video, he had him in a chokehold for some time and when he stopped kicking (passed out), let go.
Holding him until he stopped flailing doesn't seem disproportionate. Up until then, the unhoused person was dangerous.
His housing situation did not cause his mental illness. More likely the other way around, so call him the mentally ill person, not the homeless person.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:36
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:This guy is getting charged, I guarantee it. No reason to put someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, especially with other men helping to contain the mentally ill man.
It was disproportionate use of force relative to the risk. No gun or knife was drawn.
The fact that there is such a debate over the Marine’s actions demonstrates why he won’t be indicted. You will not be able to get a group of people to unanimously agree to indict or convict him. At some point there will be complete video of the homeless guy’s behavior that comes out and it will show him acting aggressive and threatening and not merely saying he was hungry and thirsty and that will be it.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:35
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Frankly I think the Marine should be receiving support, not facing arrest. Here we have everyday heroes stepping in to subdue dangerous perpetrators and now he’s facing murder chargers? It’s extremely unfortunate the man died, but it was accidental.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:16
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy is getting charged, I guarantee it. No reason to put someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, especially with other men helping to contain the mentally ill man.
It was disproportionate use of force relative to the risk. No gun or knife was drawn.
He didn't seem to active have him in a chokehold for 15 minutes. According to the phone video, he had him in a chokehold for some time and when he stopped kicking (passed out), let go.
Holding him until he stopped flailing doesn't seem disproportionate. Up until then, the unhoused person was dangerous.
Yes it was approx 15 min.
If someone had you in a choke hold for just being loud you would also fight for your life.
Waiting until he is dead is too long.
The Marine picked a good one to chokehold, someone who was behaving frighteningly and attacking other passengers and had a history of attacking people.
Funny how he just happened to pick someone with a lengthy history of violence. Wonder how that could have happened?
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:11
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This guy is getting charged, I guarantee it. No reason to put someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, especially with other men helping to contain the mentally ill man.
It was disproportionate use of force relative to the risk. No gun or knife was drawn.
He didn't seem to active have him in a chokehold for 15 minutes. According to the phone video, he had him in a chokehold for some time and when he stopped kicking (passed out), let go.
Holding him until he stopped flailing doesn't seem disproportionate. Up until then, the unhoused person was dangerous.
Yes it was approx 15 min.
If someone had you in a choke hold for just being loud you would also fight for your life.
Waiting until he is dead is too long.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:07
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A lot of hot girls on social media are asking for the ex-marine’s contact info
I know it's irrelevant to the topic at hand, but I love this. This just proves that most women admire protective men like the Marine, and want to know that men will stand up for them and protect them.
+1
I think an old man would appreciate the marine protecting him, as well. A female MMA fighter would be able to protect herself, but alas, the vast majority of us females are physically too weak to fight off a man, not that I don't want to be able to. I'm all of 5' if that, but inside, I'm a 6' xena princess warrior, but that doesn't translate to actual physical ability, sadly.
Women contacted Ted Bundy too.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:06
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:This guy is getting charged, I guarantee it. No reason to put someone in a chokehold for 15 minutes, especially with other men helping to contain the mentally ill man.
It was disproportionate use of force relative to the risk. No gun or knife was drawn.
He didn't seem to active have him in a chokehold for 15 minutes. According to the phone video, he had him in a chokehold for some time and when he stopped kicking (passed out), let go.
Holding him until he stopped flailing doesn't seem disproportionate. Up until then, the unhoused person was dangerous.
Anonymous
05/04/2023 16:04
Subject: Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A lot of hot girls on social media are asking for the ex-marine’s contact info
I know it's irrelevant to the topic at hand, but I love this. This just proves that most women admire protective men like the Marine, and want to know that men will stand up for them and protect them.
+1
I think an old man would appreciate the marine protecting him, as well. A female MMA fighter would be able to protect herself, but alas, the vast majority of us females are physically too weak to fight off a man, not that I don't want to be able to. I'm all of 5' if that, but inside, I'm a 6' xena princess warrior, but that doesn't translate to actual physical ability, sadly.