Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I left home in the late 1990s for Harvard, 1000 miles away. Sounds like we ran in different circles.
I was w econ/stats major people plus those from my foreign language major.
And I befriended a ton of Intl people via being neighbors with the soccer team.
Most of my close friends did banking, consulting or start ups. Then MBAs.
I also had housemates and friends who did other things - teach for America, PhDs, law school, Kennedy school, returned to Montana, etc. They literally thought my senior year was “nuts” returning from study abroad, doing fall recruiting in NYC, my Econ thesis, tough classes and the late comprehension exams. I loved it.
As a teen, my parents vocally said: go to college, graduate in 4 years, get marketable skills, find a job, you’re cut off but for emergencies once you graduate.
Yes I’m female. One college Bf went to med school. Later college boyfriend went to hedge fund. And the Intl soccer friends had had the best weddings in Italy ever!
Were your parents really middle class? I didn’t have time to hang out with soccer team or what not because of work study and certainly there was no money for study abroad?? Also, economics is not usually a degree MC strivers did back then because it was not as vocational as engineering or aiming for doc/law. I know no one in my hometown would have no idea about what a hedge fund or investment bank was in the 90s.
I’m guessing you are fairly attractive female, and were graced into a UMC crowd and dated among them, esp intl students who are wealthy full pay. How exactly were you “neighbors” with a soccer team? Did they rent a house or something together? Attractive or athlete is the best in for MC folks to the UMC and rich circles, but most MC folks are work studying and studying studying and don’t have the same idle time or sports training time together as that circle.
No one I dated ever went into finance, they were aiming for teach for America or biotech engineering or medicine - the usual middle class path.
I’m fascinated by why Teach For America is considered more prestigious than just teaching at a rough public school. Most teachers in local public school districts when to schools like Towson & Radford—I don’t think they or anyone else considers them candidates for top law or B school.
I’m not.
It’s for people who can’t plan or figure out their own path so they keep doing spoonfed programs or academia.
There’s literally 1000s o Fulbright’s a year too, at totally no name Unis and topics. Just delays the real world.
Seriously, tell your kids to avoid.
Yes it is so terrible to get to spend a year living abroad funded by a Fulbright.
Some ppl have an unbelievably narrow worldview. I can't believe some of these posters are real. And I am a pretty Type A risk averse person myself!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I left home in the late 1990s for Harvard, 1000 miles away. Sounds like we ran in different circles.
I was w econ/stats major people plus those from my foreign language major.
And I befriended a ton of Intl people via being neighbors with the soccer team.
Most of my close friends did banking, consulting or start ups. Then MBAs.
I also had housemates and friends who did other things - teach for America, PhDs, law school, Kennedy school, returned to Montana, etc. They literally thought my senior year was “nuts” returning from study abroad, doing fall recruiting in NYC, my Econ thesis, tough classes and the late comprehension exams. I loved it.
As a teen, my parents vocally said: go to college, graduate in 4 years, get marketable skills, find a job, you’re cut off but for emergencies once you graduate.
Yes I’m female. One college Bf went to med school. Later college boyfriend went to hedge fund. And the Intl soccer friends had had the best weddings in Italy ever!
Were your parents really middle class? I didn’t have time to hang out with soccer team or what not because of work study and certainly there was no money for study abroad?? Also, economics is not usually a degree MC strivers did back then because it was not as vocational as engineering or aiming for doc/law. I know no one in my hometown would have no idea about what a hedge fund or investment bank was in the 90s.
I’m guessing you are fairly attractive female, and were graced into a UMC crowd and dated among them, esp intl students who are wealthy full pay. How exactly were you “neighbors” with a soccer team? Did they rent a house or something together? Attractive or athlete is the best in for MC folks to the UMC and rich circles, but most MC folks are work studying and studying studying and don’t have the same idle time or sports training time together as that circle.
No one I dated ever went into finance, they were aiming for teach for America or biotech engineering or medicine - the usual middle class path.
NP. If you pay better attention and not have such a narrow mind, you'd realize what else and who else is out there, middle class or not.
The chip on your shoulder ain't helping you either.
Pay attention? It was a different world back then, it was really uncouth to talk about money or how much homes cost or anything like that. Unless you had a close friend or were dating someone from another class, there was no "behind the curtain" talks about how UMC jobs worked. MC kids went for dependable degrees without much risk, without even realizing there was a brass ring they could reach for before going to a nonprofit or mid tier job.
My Ivy had VERY segregated social scene by class, I suspect its way more mixed company at places like Brown or Cornell. As a science major, I was in lots of hard math classes, and long labs -- not in the russian lit or english or politics class the IB bound UMC would be in -- our paths literally didn't cross. They would take taxis out to shows in the city, while I spent evenings working in the cafeteria. Unless you happened to be freshman roommates with someone who took a shine to you and clued you, athletic teammates for multiple years, or were attractive enough to be brought into the UMC fold as a dating partner, you are pretty shut out. And its not like I was looking to make "rich friends" as networking or something -- I just made normal friends, but my circle was limited to mostly people like me as noted above because of work study, labs, and no money for joining outings to the city, ski trips, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I left home in the late 1990s for Harvard, 1000 miles away. Sounds like we ran in different circles.
I was w econ/stats major people plus those from my foreign language major.
And I befriended a ton of Intl people via being neighbors with the soccer team.
Most of my close friends did banking, consulting or start ups. Then MBAs.
I also had housemates and friends who did other things - teach for America, PhDs, law school, Kennedy school, returned to Montana, etc. They literally thought my senior year was “nuts” returning from study abroad, doing fall recruiting in NYC, my Econ thesis, tough classes and the late comprehension exams. I loved it.
As a teen, my parents vocally said: go to college, graduate in 4 years, get marketable skills, find a job, you’re cut off but for emergencies once you graduate.
Yes I’m female. One college Bf went to med school. Later college boyfriend went to hedge fund. And the Intl soccer friends had had the best weddings in Italy ever!
Were your parents really middle class? I didn’t have time to hang out with soccer team or what not because of work study and certainly there was no money for study abroad?? Also, economics is not usually a degree MC strivers did back then because it was not as vocational as engineering or aiming for doc/law. I know no one in my hometown would have no idea about what a hedge fund or investment bank was in the 90s.
I’m guessing you are fairly attractive female, and were graced into a UMC crowd and dated among them, esp intl students who are wealthy full pay. How exactly were you “neighbors” with a soccer team? Did they rent a house or something together? Attractive or athlete is the best in for MC folks to the UMC and rich circles, but most MC folks are work studying and studying studying and don’t have the same idle time or sports training time together as that circle.
No one I dated ever went into finance, they were aiming for teach for America or biotech engineering or medicine - the usual middle class path.
I’m fascinated by why Teach For America is considered more prestigious than just teaching at a rough public school. Most teachers in local public school districts when to schools like Towson & Radford—I don’t think they or anyone else considers them candidates for top law or B school.
I’m not.
It’s for people who can’t plan or figure out their own path so they keep doing spoonfed programs or academia.
There’s literally 1000s o Fulbright’s a year too, at totally no name Unis and topics. Just delays the real world.
Seriously, tell your kids to avoid.
\Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I left home in the late 1990s for Harvard, 1000 miles away. Sounds like we ran in different circles.
I was w econ/stats major people plus those from my foreign language major.
And I befriended a ton of Intl people via being neighbors with the soccer team.
Most of my close friends did banking, consulting or start ups. Then MBAs.
I also had housemates and friends who did other things - teach for America, PhDs, law school, Kennedy school, returned to Montana, etc. They literally thought my senior year was “nuts” returning from study abroad, doing fall recruiting in NYC, my Econ thesis, tough classes and the late comprehension exams. I loved it.
As a teen, my parents vocally said: go to college, graduate in 4 years, get marketable skills, find a job, you’re cut off but for emergencies once you graduate.
Yes I’m female. One college Bf went to med school. Later college boyfriend went to hedge fund. And the Intl soccer friends had had the best weddings in Italy ever!
Were your parents really middle class? I didn’t have time to hang out with soccer team or what not because of work study and certainly there was no money for study abroad?? Also, economics is not usually a degree MC strivers did back then because it was not as vocational as engineering or aiming for doc/law. I know no one in my hometown would have no idea about what a hedge fund or investment bank was in the 90s.
I’m guessing you are fairly attractive female, and were graced into a UMC crowd and dated among them, esp intl students who are wealthy full pay. How exactly were you “neighbors” with a soccer team? Did they rent a house or something together? Attractive or athlete is the best in for MC folks to the UMC and rich circles, but most MC folks are work studying and studying studying and don’t have the same idle time or sports training time together as that circle.
No one I dated ever went into finance, they were aiming for teach for America or biotech engineering or medicine - the usual middle class path.
NP. If you pay better attention and not have such a narrow mind, you'd realize what else and who else is out there, middle class or not.
The chip on your shoulder ain't helping you either.
Pay attention? It was a different world back then, it was really uncouth to talk about money or how much homes cost or anything like that. Unless you had a close friend or were dating someone from another class, there was no "behind the curtain" talks about how UMC jobs worked. MC kids went for dependable degrees without much risk, without even realizing there was a brass ring they could reach for before going to a nonprofit or mid tier job.
My Ivy had VERY segregated social scene by class, I suspect its way more mixed company at places like Brown or Cornell. As a science major, I was in lots of hard math classes, and long labs -- not in the russian lit or english or politics class the IB bound UMC would be in -- our paths literally didn't cross. They would take taxis out to shows in the city, while I spent evenings working in the cafeteria. Unless you happened to be freshman roommates with someone who took a shine to you and clued you, athletic teammates for multiple years, or were attractive enough to be brought into the UMC fold as a dating partner, you are pretty shut out. And its not like I was looking to make "rich friends" as networking or something -- I just made normal friends, but my circle was limited to mostly people like me as noted above because of work study, labs, and no money for joining outings to the city, ski trips, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My 20th Yale reunion is in a few weeks. I'll let everyone know what folks are up to 20 years onOne (very nice) guy founded Pinterest, so I'm sure he'll be on a few panels.
Bigger topic is how the CURRENT student body and leadership is driving Yale and its reputation into the ground. Hope no protestors bomb the party like they do various departments and offices 24/7.
Go read the student papers so you get up to speed on WTF is going on there, at least for the leftist writer save-the-world perspective.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I left home in the late 1990s for Harvard, 1000 miles away. Sounds like we ran in different circles.
I was w econ/stats major people plus those from my foreign language major.
And I befriended a ton of Intl people via being neighbors with the soccer team.
Most of my close friends did banking, consulting or start ups. Then MBAs.
I also had housemates and friends who did other things - teach for America, PhDs, law school, Kennedy school, returned to Montana, etc. They literally thought my senior year was “nuts” returning from study abroad, doing fall recruiting in NYC, my Econ thesis, tough classes and the late comprehension exams. I loved it.
As a teen, my parents vocally said: go to college, graduate in 4 years, get marketable skills, find a job, you’re cut off but for emergencies once you graduate.
Yes I’m female. One college Bf went to med school. Later college boyfriend went to hedge fund. And the Intl soccer friends had had the best weddings in Italy ever!
Were your parents really middle class? I didn’t have time to hang out with soccer team or what not because of work study and certainly there was no money for study abroad?? Also, economics is not usually a degree MC strivers did back then because it was not as vocational as engineering or aiming for doc/law. I know no one in my hometown would have no idea about what a hedge fund or investment bank was in the 90s.
I’m guessing you are fairly attractive female, and were graced into a UMC crowd and dated among them, esp intl students who are wealthy full pay. How exactly were you “neighbors” with a soccer team? Did they rent a house or something together? Attractive or athlete is the best in for MC folks to the UMC and rich circles, but most MC folks are work studying and studying studying and don’t have the same idle time or sports training time together as that circle.
No one I dated ever went into finance, they were aiming for teach for America or biotech engineering or medicine - the usual middle class path.
NP. If you pay better attention and not have such a narrow mind, you'd realize what else and who else is out there, middle class or not.
The chip on your shoulder ain't helping you either.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I left home in the late 1990s for Harvard, 1000 miles away. Sounds like we ran in different circles.
I was w econ/stats major people plus those from my foreign language major.
And I befriended a ton of Intl people via being neighbors with the soccer team.
Most of my close friends did banking, consulting or start ups. Then MBAs.
I also had housemates and friends who did other things - teach for America, PhDs, law school, Kennedy school, returned to Montana, etc. They literally thought my senior year was “nuts” returning from study abroad, doing fall recruiting in NYC, my Econ thesis, tough classes and the late comprehension exams. I loved it.
As a teen, my parents vocally said: go to college, graduate in 4 years, get marketable skills, find a job, you’re cut off but for emergencies once you graduate.
Yes I’m female. One college Bf went to med school. Later college boyfriend went to hedge fund. And the Intl soccer friends had had the best weddings in Italy ever!
Were your parents really middle class? I didn’t have time to hang out with soccer team or what not because of work study and certainly there was no money for study abroad?? Also, economics is not usually a degree MC strivers did back then because it was not as vocational as engineering or aiming for doc/law. I know no one in my hometown would have no idea about what a hedge fund or investment bank was in the 90s.
I’m guessing you are fairly attractive female, and were graced into a UMC crowd and dated among them, esp intl students who are wealthy full pay. How exactly were you “neighbors” with a soccer team? Did they rent a house or something together? Attractive or athlete is the best in for MC folks to the UMC and rich circles, but most MC folks are work studying and studying studying and don’t have the same idle time or sports training time together as that circle.
No one I dated ever went into finance, they were aiming for teach for America or biotech engineering or medicine - the usual middle class path.
I’m fascinated by why Teach For America is considered more prestigious than just teaching at a rough public school. Most teachers in local public school districts when to schools like Towson & Radford—I don’t think they or anyone else considers them candidates for top law or B school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I left home in the late 1990s for Harvard, 1000 miles away. Sounds like we ran in different circles.
I was w econ/stats major people plus those from my foreign language major.
And I befriended a ton of Intl people via being neighbors with the soccer team.
Most of my close friends did banking, consulting or start ups. Then MBAs.
I also had housemates and friends who did other things - teach for America, PhDs, law school, Kennedy school, returned to Montana, etc. They literally thought my senior year was “nuts” returning from study abroad, doing fall recruiting in NYC, my Econ thesis, tough classes and the late comprehension exams. I loved it.
As a teen, my parents vocally said: go to college, graduate in 4 years, get marketable skills, find a job, you’re cut off but for emergencies once you graduate.
Yes I’m female. One college Bf went to med school. Later college boyfriend went to hedge fund. And the Intl soccer friends had had the best weddings in Italy ever!
Were your parents really middle class? I didn’t have time to hang out with soccer team or what not because of work study and certainly there was no money for study abroad?? Also, economics is not usually a degree MC strivers did back then because it was not as vocational as engineering or aiming for doc/law. I know no one in my hometown would have no idea about what a hedge fund or investment bank was in the 90s.
I’m guessing you are fairly attractive female, and were graced into a UMC crowd and dated among them, esp intl students who are wealthy full pay. How exactly were you “neighbors” with a soccer team? Did they rent a house or something together? Attractive or athlete is the best in for MC folks to the UMC and rich circles, but most MC folks are work studying and studying studying and don’t have the same idle time or sports training time together as that circle.
No one I dated ever went into finance, they were aiming for teach for America or biotech engineering or medicine - the usual middle class path.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I left home in the late 1990s for Harvard, 1000 miles away. Sounds like we ran in different circles.
I was w econ/stats major people plus those from my foreign language major.
And I befriended a ton of Intl people via being neighbors with the soccer team.
Most of my close friends did banking, consulting or start ups. Then MBAs.
I also had housemates and friends who did other things - teach for America, PhDs, law school, Kennedy school, returned to Montana, etc. They literally thought my senior year was “nuts” returning from study abroad, doing fall recruiting in NYC, my Econ thesis, tough classes and the late comprehension exams. I loved it.
As a teen, my parents vocally said: go to college, graduate in 4 years, get marketable skills, find a job, you’re cut off but for emergencies once you graduate.
Yes I’m female. One college Bf went to med school. Later college boyfriend went to hedge fund. And the Intl soccer friends had had the best weddings in Italy ever!
Were your parents really middle class? I didn’t have time to hang out with soccer team or what not because of work study and certainly there was no money for study abroad?? Also, economics is not usually a degree MC strivers did back then because it was not as vocational as engineering or aiming for doc/law. I know no one in my hometown would have no idea about what a hedge fund or investment bank was in the 90s.
I’m guessing you are fairly attractive female, and were graced into a UMC crowd and dated among them, esp intl students who are wealthy full pay. How exactly were you “neighbors” with a soccer team? Did they rent a house or something together? Attractive or athlete is the best in for MC folks to the UMC and rich circles, but most MC folks are work studying and studying studying and don’t have the same idle time or sports training time together as that circle.
No one I dated ever went into finance, they were aiming for teach for America or biotech engineering or medicine - the usual middle class path.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?
My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.
I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.
Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.
Just ask what the plan is there. Normal question.
Maybe he wants to relax and apply to med school or take a sort of gap year.
Nobody “relaxes while applying to med school.” It’s not 1995. The kids taking gap years to apply to med school are working clinical jobs full-time i.e. EMT, CNA, Americorps. They’re not kayaking in Oregon.
Anonymous wrote:I left home in the late 1990s for Harvard, 1000 miles away. Sounds like we ran in different circles.
I was w econ/stats major people plus those from my foreign language major.
And I befriended a ton of Intl people via being neighbors with the soccer team.
Most of my close friends did banking, consulting or start ups. Then MBAs.
I also had housemates and friends who did other things - teach for America, PhDs, law school, Kennedy school, returned to Montana, etc. They literally thought my senior year was “nuts” returning from study abroad, doing fall recruiting in NYC, my Econ thesis, tough classes and the late comprehension exams. I loved it.
As a teen, my parents vocally said: go to college, graduate in 4 years, get marketable skills, find a job, you’re cut off but for emergencies once you graduate.
Yes I’m female. One college Bf went to med school. Later college boyfriend went to hedge fund. And the Intl soccer friends had had the best weddings in Italy ever!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?
My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.
I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.
Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.
Just ask what the plan is there. Normal question.
Maybe he wants to relax and apply to med school or take a sort of gap year.
Anonymous wrote:Why do highly credentialed HYPS grads accept crap jobs after graduation?
My neighbor’s son is a senior at a HYPS right now, and she told me that her son just accepted a job offer after graduation. When I asked her what the job is, she told me that her son is moving to Oregon to be a full-time whitewater kayaking instructor.
I was bewildered by this. With a math degree from HYPS, I would assume he’d get a great job offer at graduation.
Oh and for the record, it’s not like he is a rich kid who can rely on his parents — he is solidly middle class and went to his college on a good amount of financial aid.