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Anonymous wrote:It’s a personal question and you kept pressing. Stop being critical.

She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.

+1. If nothing else it's poor hygiene and looks dirty. I put it in the same category of - you must shower, you must wash your hair, you must keep yourself clean and presentable looking.

I wouldn't push right off the bat, but I would start a conversation and let her know that this is something that, as an adult, she needs to take care of.

If this is the case, then she should probably shave her head hair, too. Presumably, she is washing underarms, probably more frequently than her head hair, so nope, granny, this is not a hygiene issue. YOU are maybe the hygiene issue here.

Anonymous wrote:There is no way I would let DD out in public unshaven.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a personal question and you kept pressing. Stop being critical.

She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.

+1. If nothing else it's poor hygiene and looks dirty. I put it in the same category of - you must shower, you must wash your hair, you must keep yourself clean and presentable looking.

I wouldn't push right off the bat, but I would start a conversation and let her know that this is something that, as an adult, she needs to take care of.

No, it isn’t, and I sure hope you apply these exact same standards to boys.

DP but I would prefer my son shaved his armpits. I don’t insist because I have no idea what’s common among boys his age.

Why would you prefer that? I shave but shaving increases the risk of infection and has no actual health benefits. It's much better to just wash with soap.

Mostly shaving off the old smelly hair (no matter how well you wash it, esp if a teen boy, there’s certain residue)
Also don’t really like the look
Most if not all of my boyfriends used to shave their armpit hair too so I assumed it was the norm
Not sure what it is now. Maybe teenage boys prefer to look manly?

Anonymous wrote:There is no way I would let DD out in public unshaven.

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped shaving for a year in college. I'm a cis het woman. I just thought it was weird that our society wants women to look pre-pubescent.

But OP I do get it . . . when my teen wears the SAME pajama pants that I wore, I think, "Oh, you can't wear REAL pants?" It's just how it always goes with youth and parents.

I don't think this one is a big deal. How humans wear their hair and assign it gendered meaning is really arbitrary. Let your kid navigate her relationship with society at large without you censoring her, at least over small stuff.

She’s 15. She needs guidance from her mother

Her body, her choice.

As long as a parent has provided guidance on how to shave and has provided the necessary tools, the parent's job is done.

My 15 yo DD doesn't shave during the winter at all. That's her choice. Is it a choice I would make? No, because prickly legs and arms bug me.

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Anonymous wrote:I stopped shaving for a year in college. I'm a cis het woman. I just thought it was weird that our society wants women to look pre-pubescent.

But OP I do get it . . . when my teen wears the SAME pajama pants that I wore, I think, "Oh, you can't wear REAL pants?" It's just how it always goes with youth and parents.

I don't think this one is a big deal. How humans wear their hair and assign it gendered meaning is really arbitrary. Let your kid navigate her relationship with society at large without you censoring her, at least over small stuff.

She’s 15. She needs guidance from her mother

Anonymous wrote:I stopped shaving for a year in college. I'm a cis het woman. I just thought it was weird that our society wants women to look pre-pubescent.

But OP I do get it . . . when my teen wears the SAME pajama pants that I wore, I think, "Oh, you can't wear REAL pants?" It's just how it always goes with youth and parents.

I don't think this one is a big deal. How humans wear their hair and assign it gendered meaning is really arbitrary. Let your kid navigate her relationship with society at large without you censoring her, at least over small stuff.

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She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.

Totally agree with this advice. Your instincts are right, and this is a red alert... No one loves your kid like you and her dad do. I would lovingly and calmly find out what her thinking is. Help her to see she is a beautiful human being -- inside and out -- and that fashion, how we groom, etc. communicates who we are within the current cultural context. We all don uniforms of sorts... What uniform is she trying to wear? Yes, fashions change, but what is the message she is signaling right now through this fashion choice? The uniform she chooses will also shape how she sees herself.

Ask what she thinks she's saying by not shaving. Then find out where this is coming from. Who or what has caused her to develop this philosophy? Someone from school? A friend? Someone on social media? Why does the source's opinion matter?

At best, maybe she's just afraid she'll cut herself with the razor. Who even likes to shave, right? At worst, someone could be lying to her about who she is as a young woman, and she has taken her first steps down a dangerous path. Save your child from the disaster you sense could be ahead.

This is the single sanest post on this thread.

"Save your child from the disaster you sense could be ahead." You mean the single most *insane* post on the thread?

No I actually think that point is exactly correct. I would be very concerned if my 15 YO DD appeared headed down this path.

What path?? Where does this lead? I want details.

Trans or lesbian

(Not that I am opposed to either, but those are the “paths” pp is scared of)

NP but some of you are unhinged.
Signed,
Straight not-too-hairy woman who doesn't shave, doesn't think not shaving means a girl is a lesbian but so what if she is, and certainly doesn't think not shaving is a slippery slope towards being talked into transitioning to male.

Great. So then, as the pp suggested, you should not fear or be opposed to a conversation with DD about why she chooses to present herself in this way. Reread PPs wise advice. This is reasonable for any caring parent

OP should not fear or be opposed to DD doing whatever the hell she wants with her own body. This is reasonable for any caring parent.

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She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.

Totally agree with this advice. Your instincts are right, and this is a red alert... No one loves your kid like you and her dad do. I would lovingly and calmly find out what her thinking is. Help her to see she is a beautiful human being -- inside and out -- and that fashion, how we groom, etc. communicates who we are within the current cultural context. We all don uniforms of sorts... What uniform is she trying to wear? Yes, fashions change, but what is the message she is signaling right now through this fashion choice? The uniform she chooses will also shape how she sees herself.

Ask what she thinks she's saying by not shaving. Then find out where this is coming from. Who or what has caused her to develop this philosophy? Someone from school? A friend? Someone on social media? Why does the source's opinion matter?

At best, maybe she's just afraid she'll cut herself with the razor. Who even likes to shave, right? At worst, someone could be lying to her about who she is as a young woman, and she has taken her first steps down a dangerous path. Save your child from the disaster you sense could be ahead.

This is the single sanest post on this thread.

"Save your child from the disaster you sense could be ahead." You mean the single most *insane* post on the thread?

No I actually think that point is exactly correct. I would be very concerned if my 15 YO DD appeared headed down this path.

What path?? Where does this lead? I want details.

Trans or lesbian

(Not that I am opposed to either, but those are the “paths” pp is scared of)

NP but some of you are unhinged.
Signed,
Straight not-too-hairy woman who doesn't shave, doesn't think not shaving means a girl is a lesbian but so what if she is, and certainly doesn't think not shaving is a slippery slope towards being talked into transitioning to male.

Great. So then, as the pp suggested, you should not fear or be opposed to a conversation with DD about why she chooses to present herself in this way. Reread PPs wise advice. This is reasonable for any caring parent

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She is your daughter & you have a right & a duty to be concerned.

Have a polite & calm discussion with your daughter.

Totally agree with this advice. Your instincts are right, and this is a red alert... No one loves your kid like you and her dad do. I would lovingly and calmly find out what her thinking is. Help her to see she is a beautiful human being -- inside and out -- and that fashion, how we groom, etc. communicates who we are within the current cultural context. We all don uniforms of sorts... What uniform is she trying to wear? Yes, fashions change, but what is the message she is signaling right now through this fashion choice? The uniform she chooses will also shape how she sees herself.

Ask what she thinks she's saying by not shaving. Then find out where this is coming from. Who or what has caused her to develop this philosophy? Someone from school? A friend? Someone on social media? Why does the source's opinion matter?

At best, maybe she's just afraid she'll cut herself with the razor. Who even likes to shave, right? At worst, someone could be lying to her about who she is as a young woman, and she has taken her first steps down a dangerous path. Save your child from the disaster you sense could be ahead.

This is the single sanest post on this thread.

"Save your child from the disaster you sense could be ahead." You mean the single most *insane* post on the thread?

No I actually think that point is exactly correct. I would be very concerned if my 15 YO DD appeared headed down this path.

What path?? Where does this lead? I want details.

Trans or lesbian

(Not that I am opposed to either, but those are the “paths” pp is scared of)

NP but some of you are unhinged.
Signed,
Straight not-too-hairy woman who doesn't shave, doesn't think not shaving means a girl is a lesbian but so what if she is, and certainly doesn't think not shaving is a slippery slope towards being talked into transitioning to male.