Anonymous wrote:Don't get the whining.

Florida universities serve the demographic that resides there and wants to stay there fine.

University of Miami is a top destination for out of state students whose parents have $, want to have a great time, and aren't getting into a top 1st or 2nd tier private uni.

If you're from Florida and want to go to university in Florida then Gainseville is a great option (particularly for business and STEM) - but if you're out of state and going there it's because you could not get better options.

Florida is set to lose at least 20,000 out-of-state students as a result of this.

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Anonymous wrote:The new president of UF is a former Republican senator.

I think that this is a healthy change.

I appreciate those who express concern about the curriculum changes and the overall guiding principles of the soon-to-be-new New College of Florida, but the current New College of Florida is more of a failure than it is a success. Change is needed as the new College of Florida is in a continuing path of decline. Taxpayer dollars should be used to fund core subjects in education.

Whether you like or dislike Governor Ron DeSantis' stance, it is a message that needs to be heard and considered by all just as opposing viewpoints should be. Governor DeSantis and the Florida legislature were elected by the people of Florida and I believe that he reflects the majority opinion of the voters in his state.

Awesome! Then perhaps you can explain a few things. Why is He getting rid of just Black sororities and fraternities rather than ALL sororities and fraternities? Why is he getting rid of resources for students that emphasize support for ethnicity — and not all similar resources and programs? If the focus is on “core subjects in education “, is he getting rid of all of the sports and recreational programs? If not, why not?

How did he go from a baseball playing Yalie to this?
And of course if his priority was truly using tax dollars well, I’d really be interested in the funding for the Martha’s Vineyard stunt.

Could you please source that. I have googled and searched unsuccessfully for that.

Ok: The post I responded to is in a closed thread titled: DeSantis & Florida Colleges HB999

I’m not able to cut and past the post I’m responding to, but it’s a very short thread that was closed because this one was already active.


https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1118546.page

Thanks for the link. I looked up the bill and it does not do what that poster said. It calls for eliminating CRT--which is far from the same thing as eliminating Black sororities and fraternities. And, in any case, New College of Florida does not have those.

Perhaps you should read line 341 of the bill. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/999

It does exactly what pp said it did.

Found the bill. He is implicitly going after FAMU.
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/999/BillText/Filed/PDF

You can’t judge HBCU outcomes on economic terms with out consider the implicit bias in hiring, firing, salaries etc…

This is unbelievable. I used to love Miami. Ugh.

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Anonymous wrote:The new president of UF is a former Republican senator.

I think that this is a healthy change.

I appreciate those who express concern about the curriculum changes and the overall guiding principles of the soon-to-be-new New College of Florida, but the current New College of Florida is more of a failure than it is a success. Change is needed as the new College of Florida is in a continuing path of decline. Taxpayer dollars should be used to fund core subjects in education.

Whether you like or dislike Governor Ron DeSantis' stance, it is a message that needs to be heard and considered by all just as opposing viewpoints should be. Governor DeSantis and the Florida legislature were elected by the people of Florida and I believe that he reflects the majority opinion of the voters in his state.

Awesome! Then perhaps you can explain a few things. Why is He getting rid of just Black sororities and fraternities rather than ALL sororities and fraternities? Why is he getting rid of resources for students that emphasize support for ethnicity — and not all similar resources and programs? If the focus is on “core subjects in education “, is he getting rid of all of the sports and recreational programs? If not, why not?

How did he go from a baseball playing Yalie to this?
And of course if his priority was truly using tax dollars well, I’d really be interested in the funding for the Martha’s Vineyard stunt.

Where is his attack on the sororities and fraternities?

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What does this mean for Famu?

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Anonymous wrote:The new president of UF is a former Republican senator.

I think that this is a healthy change.

I appreciate those who express concern about the curriculum changes and the overall guiding principles of the soon-to-be-new New College of Florida, but the current New College of Florida is more of a failure than it is a success. Change is needed as the new College of Florida is in a continuing path of decline. Taxpayer dollars should be used to fund core subjects in education.

Whether you like or dislike Governor Ron DeSantis' stance, it is a message that needs to be heard and considered by all just as opposing viewpoints should be. Governor DeSantis and the Florida legislature were elected by the people of Florida and I believe that he reflects the majority opinion of the voters in his state.

Awesome! Then perhaps you can explain a few things. Why is He getting rid of just Black sororities and fraternities rather than ALL sororities and fraternities? Why is he getting rid of resources for students that emphasize support for ethnicity — and not all similar resources and programs? If the focus is on “core subjects in education “, is he getting rid of all of the sports and recreational programs? If not, why not?

How did he go from a baseball playing Yalie to this?
And of course if his priority was truly using tax dollars well, I’d really be interested in the funding for the Martha’s Vineyard stunt.

Could you please source that. I have googled and searched unsuccessfully for that.

Ok: The post I responded to is in a closed thread titled: DeSantis & Florida Colleges HB999

I’m not able to cut and past the post I’m responding to, but it’s a very short thread that was closed because this one was already active.


https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1118546.page

Thanks for the link. I looked up the bill and it does not do what that poster said. It calls for eliminating CRT--which is far from the same thing as eliminating Black sororities and fraternities. And, in any case, New College of Florida does not have those.

Don't get the whining.

Florida universities serve the demographic that resides there and wants to stay there fine.

University of Miami is a top destination for out of state students whose parents have $, want to have a great time, and aren't getting into a top 1st or 2nd tier private uni.

If you're from Florida and want to go to university in Florida then Gainseville is a great option (particularly for business and STEM) - but if you're out of state and going there it's because you could not get better options.

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Anonymous wrote:The new president of UF is a former Republican senator.

I think that this is a healthy change.

I appreciate those who express concern about the curriculum changes and the overall guiding principles of the soon-to-be-new New College of Florida, but the current New College of Florida is more of a failure than it is a success. Change is needed as the new College of Florida is in a continuing path of decline. Taxpayer dollars should be used to fund core subjects in education.

Whether you like or dislike Governor Ron DeSantis' stance, it is a message that needs to be heard and considered by all just as opposing viewpoints should be. Governor DeSantis and the Florida legislature were elected by the people of Florida and I believe that he reflects the majority opinion of the voters in his state.

Awesome! Then perhaps you can explain a few things. Why is He getting rid of just Black sororities and fraternities rather than ALL sororities and fraternities? Why is he getting rid of resources for students that emphasize support for ethnicity — and not all similar resources and programs? If the focus is on “core subjects in education “, is he getting rid of all of the sports and recreational programs? If not, why not?

How did he go from a baseball playing Yalie to this?
And of course if his priority was truly using tax dollars well, I’d really be interested in the funding for the Martha’s Vineyard stunt.

Could you please source that. I have googled and searched unsuccessfully for that.

Ok: The post I responded to is in a closed thread titled: DeSantis & Florida Colleges HB999

I’m not able to cut and past the post I’m responding to, but it’s a very short thread that was closed because this one was already active.


https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1118546.page

Anonymous wrote:"New College of Florida does not have any fraternities or sororities, do it might be a good option if Greek life isn't a priority for you."

https://www.collegeconfidential.com/colleges/new-college-of-florida/#:~:text=New%20College%20of%20Florida%20does,t%20a%20priority%20for%20you.

New College of Florida has less than 700 students. And, yet they had a DEI person with staff. Best use of resources?

Possibly. It’s hard to assess without knowing more about their needs and their resources.

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Anonymous wrote:The new president of UF is a former Republican senator.

I think that this is a healthy change.

I appreciate those who express concern about the curriculum changes and the overall guiding principles of the soon-to-be-new New College of Florida, but the current New College of Florida is more of a failure than it is a success. Change is needed as the new College of Florida is in a continuing path of decline. Taxpayer dollars should be used to fund core subjects in education.

Whether you like or dislike Governor Ron DeSantis' stance, it is a message that needs to be heard and considered by all just as opposing viewpoints should be. Governor DeSantis and the Florida legislature were elected by the people of Florida and I believe that he reflects the majority opinion of the voters in his state.

Awesome! Then perhaps you can explain a few things. Why is He getting rid of just Black sororities and fraternities rather than ALL sororities and fraternities? Why is he getting rid of resources for students that emphasize support for ethnicity — and not all similar resources and programs? If the focus is on “core subjects in education “, is he getting rid of all of the sports and recreational programs? If not, why not?

How did he go from a baseball playing Yalie to this?
And of course if his priority was truly using tax dollars well, I’d really be interested in the funding for the Martha’s Vineyard stunt.

Could you please source that. I have googled and searched unsuccessfully for that.

I’ll see if I can find the list of cuts that I was reacting to when I wrote this post.

Ok. I was responding to a post from 3.10.2023.21:29 that listed changes that DiSantis has proposed, including removing NPHC programs (Black sororities and fraternities) from Florida college campuses. I can’t find the post, so either it’s been deleted or, improbably, there’s another thread with a similar title.

I did not get this information from a primary source— but from a DCUM post. Perhaps it’s been deleted as trolling? If so, I apologize if I have inadvertently spread inaccurate information via my response.

Anonymous wrote:"New College of Florida does not have any fraternities or sororities, do it might be a good option if Greek life isn't a priority for you."

https://www.collegeconfidential.com/colleges/new-college-of-florida/#:~:text=New%20College%20of%20Florida%20does,t%20a%20priority%20for%20you.

New College of Florida has less than 700 students. And, yet they had a DEI person with staff. Best use of resources?

In 1959, the Board of Home Missions of the Congregational and Christian Churches (later renamed the United Church of Christ) provided the initial funding to establish a four-year liberal arts college in Sarasota that would become New College of Florida. The church stipulated that the “college shall be open to all students qualified for its academic program. Race, creed, national origin, or cultural status shall not be considered as a basis for denial of admission.”

No other Florida college or university, public or private, had an open admissions policy. The church’s funding was also contingent upon the college agreeing that its board of trustees would be open to the nomination of black trustees. The college’s founders also stipulated:

“The college is not just tolerant of all faiths; it expects proponents of various beliefs to be mutually respectful and willing to open their faith to the community.”

Seems like it was a core component of the origins of the college. In the 1950s to be open to having black trustees on the board was quite radical.

And just to point out that this may be why does deSantisays focusing on this school.

"New College of Florida does not have any fraternities or sororities, do it might be a good option if Greek life isn't a priority for you."

https://www.collegeconfidential.com/colleges/new-college-of-florida/#:~:text=New%20College%20of%20Florida%20does,t%20a%20priority%20for%20you.

New College of Florida has less than 700 students. And, yet they had a DEI person with staff. Best use of resources?

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Anonymous wrote:The new president of UF is a former Republican senator.

I think that this is a healthy change.

I appreciate those who express concern about the curriculum changes and the overall guiding principles of the soon-to-be-new New College of Florida, but the current New College of Florida is more of a failure than it is a success. Change is needed as the new College of Florida is in a continuing path of decline. Taxpayer dollars should be used to fund core subjects in education.

Whether you like or dislike Governor Ron DeSantis' stance, it is a message that needs to be heard and considered by all just as opposing viewpoints should be. Governor DeSantis and the Florida legislature were elected by the people of Florida and I believe that he reflects the majority opinion of the voters in his state.

Awesome! Then perhaps you can explain a few things. Why is He getting rid of just Black sororities and fraternities rather than ALL sororities and fraternities? Why is he getting rid of resources for students that emphasize support for ethnicity — and not all similar resources and programs? If the focus is on “core subjects in education “, is he getting rid of all of the sports and recreational programs? If not, why not?

How did he go from a baseball playing Yalie to this?
And of course if his priority was truly using tax dollars well, I’d really be interested in the funding for the Martha’s Vineyard stunt.

Could you please source that. I have googled and searched unsuccessfully for that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The new president of UF is a former Republican senator.

I think that this is a healthy change.

I appreciate those who express concern about the curriculum changes and the overall guiding principles of the soon-to-be-new New College of Florida, but the current New College of Florida is more of a failure than it is a success. Change is needed as the new College of Florida is in a continuing path of decline. Taxpayer dollars should be used to fund core subjects in education.

Whether you like or dislike Governor Ron DeSantis' stance, it is a message that needs to be heard and considered by all just as opposing viewpoints should be. Governor DeSantis and the Florida legislature were elected by the people of Florida and I believe that he reflects the majority opinion of the voters in his state.

Awesome! Then perhaps you can explain a few things. Why is He getting rid of just Black sororities and fraternities rather than ALL sororities and fraternities? Why is he getting rid of resources for students that emphasize support for ethnicity — and not all similar resources and programs? If the focus is on “core subjects in education “, is he getting rid of all of the sports and recreational programs? If not, why not?

How did he go from a baseball playing Yalie to this?
And of course if his priority was truly using tax dollars well, I’d really be interested in the funding for the Martha’s Vineyard stunt.

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Anonymous wrote:In terms of Florida Universities

This is what is going to happen believe it or not your call.

DeSantis's plan is to remove the Theory of Evolution. Imagine med or vet schools without that. Imagine Science without that. He is going to do this starting right after 2024. This is coming make no mistake the religious right is going to own Florida Universities.

The idea is to remove National Accreditations yep that is where they are headed. They want a National Split. Then they will rebuild in their image.

I am not wrong or crazy.

Keep sending your kids OOS to red states those degrees are going to be worthless not to meantion scary shit.

Hi conspiracy theorist!!

Meanwhile FL universities rank faaaaaaaaaaar higher than DC ones, and keep climbing while DC ones keep going closer to the bottom.

But sure, thanks for warning us

They rank higher than Georgetown, American, and the George Washington University?

GW is currently ranked at 62, UF is 29, GT is 22, American University is 73. This is according to US News ranking. You can find ranking for the rest of the Florida schools, such as FSU, FCU, SUF, MII but overall, they are highly ranking schools and some of them very competitive. Florida universities experiencing huge influx of applicants from NE in a last three years. I think cost of attendance might be one of the reason too.

It’s a big university in a big state so it offers a lot of majors and degrees and its top students are good but every student at AU or GW and almost every student at UMD or George Mason or Howard could get into UF but at least half UF students couldn’t get into any of those five schools.

UF graduate student enrollment is 27% international students. Like many public universities their science and technology Ph.D programs are dependent on international students.

Lol…just no. People in the DMV have such a boner for thinking the education here is simply the finest

And the people who do live in the M or the V or send kids to private school.