Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's territory. I don't support American money and weaponry in Ukraine. Negotiate now. No more proxy war.
Why? Proxy war so far is net-positive for the us
Beyond the toll of human misery and death? Because the average regular joe in any country prefers and needs peace and stability.
Because war expands and increases the risk my son or my neighbors sons will be drafted. Because the US is dragging out what could have been negotiated and de-escalated. Because we are playing with the possibility of nuclear war and the annihilation of humanity. Because countries rise and fall but we only have 1 earth.
You don't view Russia as a threat. But for those that agree Russia is a threat, they are diminished and degraded at a low cost to the US vs other options. And keeps those defense contractors busy and rich and happy to donate to any republican, democratic or independent that will help keep them on busy.
That's true as long as the dead are worth nothing.
That is a scolding for Russia. Putin clearly just sees a piece of meat ready for grinding when he views his young conscripts.
Prigozhin got 50,000 prison inmates and sent them to fight at Bakhmut. A month later, it's believed that 40,000 of the 50,000 are either dead, captured or otherwise MIA. In the west that whole thing would be shocking. But in fact there is discussion about how maybe this is a good thing for Russia, criminals liquidated and no more cost to Russian taxpayers. They are truly sick and deranged.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, Sy Hersh says the CIA blew up the North Stream. The fine art of stating the obvious..
https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/
I remember when the folks here accused anyone suggesting that a non Russian actor could be responsible was a Russian agent.
Hersh doesn't have any smoking gun. He's just laying out a few selective dots and is leading the reader to connect them. But he leaves out that many other state actors also had the capabilities, the motives, the access, and the opportunity to pull this off.
Was there another state actor who said "believe me, we will take it out"?
Yes, several in fact.
Link.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, Sy Hersh says the CIA blew up the North Stream. The fine art of stating the obvious..
https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/
I remember when the folks here accused anyone suggesting that a non Russian actor could be responsible was a Russian agent.
Hersh doesn't have any smoking gun. He's just laying out a few selective dots and is leading the reader to connect them. But he leaves out that many other state actors also had the capabilities, the motives, the access, and the opportunity to pull this off.
Was there another state actor who said "believe me, we will take it out"?
Yes, several in fact.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, Sy Hersh says the CIA blew up the North Stream. The fine art of stating the obvious..
https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/
I remember when the folks here accused anyone suggesting that a non Russian actor could be responsible was a Russian agent.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, Sy Hersh says the CIA blew up the North Stream. The fine art of stating the obvious..
https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/
I remember when the folks here accused anyone suggesting that a non Russian actor could be responsible was a Russian agent.
Hersh doesn't have any smoking gun. He's just laying out a few selective dots and is leading the reader to connect them. But he leaves out that many other state actors also had the capabilities, the motives, the access, and the opportunity to pull this off.
Was there another state actor who said "believe me, we will take it out"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, Sy Hersh says the CIA blew up the North Stream. The fine art of stating the obvious..
https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/
I remember when the folks here accused anyone suggesting that a non Russian actor could be responsible was a Russian agent.
Hersh doesn't have any smoking gun. He's just laying out a few selective dots and is leading the reader to connect them. But he leaves out that many other state actors also had the capabilities, the motives, the access, and the opportunity to pull this off.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, Sy Hersh says the CIA blew up the North Stream. The fine art of stating the obvious..
https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/
I remember when the folks here accused anyone suggesting that a non Russian actor could be responsible was a Russian agent.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's territory. I don't support American money and weaponry in Ukraine. Negotiate now. No more proxy war.
Why? Proxy war so far is net-positive for the us
Beyond the toll of human misery and death? Because the average regular joe in any country prefers and needs peace and stability.
Because war expands and increases the risk my son or my neighbors sons will be drafted. Because the US is dragging out what could have been negotiated and de-escalated. Because we are playing with the possibility of nuclear war and the annihilation of humanity. Because countries rise and fall but we only have 1 earth.
You don't view Russia as a threat. But for those that agree Russia is a threat, they are diminished and degraded at a low cost to the US vs other options. And keeps those defense contractors busy and rich and happy to donate to any republican, democratic or independent that will help keep them on busy.
That's true as long as the dead are worth nothing.
That is a scolding for Russia. Putin clearly just sees a piece of meat ready for grinding when he views his young conscripts.
They could grozny the entire country if they really wanted and no the west will not nuke moscow if moscow decides to nuke Kyiv
Anonymous wrote:In other news, Sy Hersh says the CIA blew up the North Stream. The fine art of stating the obvious..
https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/08/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream-pipeline/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand why it would be wrong for Ukraine to bomb Russia. How would that be the fault of Ukraine? Start a war, you might get bombed. Duh.
I don’t think people understand that Russia hasn’t really been trying.
They could grozny the entire country if they really wanted and no the west will not nuke moscow if moscow decides to nuke Kyiv
The Russians are way weaker than the west initially thought but now the opposite has happened
Too many in the west think the Russians weaker than they are.
And no, Russia hasn’t been trying to maximize body count In Ukraine because they haven’t brought out cbrn weapons like they did in Syria
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's territory. I don't support American money and weaponry in Ukraine. Negotiate now. No more proxy war.
Why? Proxy war so far is net-positive for the us
Beyond the toll of human misery and death? Because the average regular joe in any country prefers and needs peace and stability.
Because war expands and increases the risk my son or my neighbors sons will be drafted. Because the US is dragging out what could have been negotiated and de-escalated. Because we are playing with the possibility of nuclear war and the annihilation of humanity. Because countries rise and fall but we only have 1 earth.
You don't view Russia as a threat. But for those that agree Russia is a threat, they are diminished and degraded at a low cost to the US vs other options. And keeps those defense contractors busy and rich and happy to donate to any republican, democratic or independent that will help keep them on busy.
That's true as long as the dead are worth nothing.
That is a scolding for Russia. Putin clearly just sees a piece of meat ready for grinding when he views his young conscripts.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's territory. I don't support American money and weaponry in Ukraine. Negotiate now. No more proxy war.
Why? Proxy war so far is net-positive for the us
Beyond the toll of human misery and death? Because the average regular joe in any country prefers and needs peace and stability.
Because war expands and increases the risk my son or my neighbors sons will be drafted. Because the US is dragging out what could have been negotiated and de-escalated. Because we are playing with the possibility of nuclear war and the annihilation of humanity. Because countries rise and fall but we only have 1 earth.
You don't view Russia as a threat. But for those that agree Russia is a threat, they are diminished and degraded at a low cost to the US vs other options. And keeps those defense contractors busy and rich and happy to donate to any republican, democratic or independent that will help keep them on busy.
That's true as long as the dead are worth nothing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't give a sh*t about Ukraine's territory. I don't support American money and weaponry in Ukraine. Negotiate now. No more proxy war.
Why? Proxy war so far is net-positive for the us
Beyond the toll of human misery and death? Because the average regular joe in any country prefers and needs peace and stability.
Because war expands and increases the risk my son or my neighbors sons will be drafted. Because the US is dragging out what could have been negotiated and de-escalated. Because we are playing with the possibility of nuclear war and the annihilation of humanity. Because countries rise and fall but we only have 1 earth.
You don't view Russia as a threat. But for those that agree Russia is a threat, they are diminished and degraded at a low cost to the US vs other options. And keeps those defense contractors busy and rich and happy to donate to any republican, democratic or independent that will help keep them on busy.