They were bad, then then they became terrible in 2018, # of flights went down in the pandemic, and now it’s back to the new normal.

The new normal, if you’re honest, is unbearable. According to the empirical DB measures and FAA cut offs, the Palisades and Foxhall is possibly no longer compatible with residential use.

Did the flight patterns recently change or am I obsessing after reading this thread?

Anonymous wrote:We used to live off MacArthur near the reservoir and the plane noise was absolutely terrible. If you were outdoors (or indoors with windows open) you had to pause conversation until the plane passed. We could sometimes see the flashing of the lights move across our floors at night and often could see people in the plane windows. I loved that little house but man did we hate the air traffic.

This is my post...just for clarity, we lived near the Reservoir where Reservoir Road and MacArthur split - in DC proper - not upriver in Maryland. When we first moved in, flights were pretty time restricted and that crept up and crept later until it was really disruptive.

Here are some more useful links, pretty unbearable in the Palisades today, please complain.

https://palisadesdc.org/airplane-noise/

Anonymous wrote:Okay people, choose to live near an airport guess what? You will hear and have airplanes in your vicinity. If you don't want this, move further out. I am not trading my airport location for your issues, go, MOVE!

I’m not sure where you live but in the DC proper, these blighted areas ARE the “further out”. The really premium areas don’t have the planes. The issue is that there is no price differential and no disclosure, yet.

Anonymous wrote:Okay people, choose to live near an airport guess what? You will hear and have airplanes in your vicinity. If you don't want this, move further out. I am not trading my airport location for your issues, go, MOVE!

Not what the Palisades and Foxhall sellers and real estate agents tell the buyers, is it?

It’s not a big deal. You’ll get used to it etc. It’s so dishonest.

Anonymous wrote:Okay people, choose to live near an airport guess what? You will hear and have airplanes in your vicinity. If you don't want this, move further out. I am not trading my airport location for your issues, go, MOVE!

For many of us this intense air traffic I only started years after we bought our homes.
I remember when they first redirected air traffic along the river and promised it would not be after 10 or 11pm and would not be a big deal .they gradually started flying all night and with increasing frequency.

It has improved a lot since the pandemic when travel bottomed out but is increasing again now. It is not as bad as just before the pandemic though.

We have a solid older home and insulated windows and doors so it is not bad inside. As a PP mentioned, it does impact quality of life outside.

The military helicopters are worse than commercial flights .

Okay people, choose to live near an airport guess what? You will hear and have airplanes in your vicinity. If you don't want this, move further out. I am not trading my airport location for your issues, go, MOVE!

That’s terrible

The gds now high school will enjoy it too. Hope they do their own frequency analysis and decibel reading collection. DCPS or the students themselves!

Anonymous wrote:Lived in palisades (close in to the city for the neighborhood) for years and you DO hear them. We got used to it and would joke about it, but it is real. We were fairly close to the river too, so it might be better a bit farther away from the river.

+1

Never got used to it. Was shocked at a recent visit just how much worse it is now.

I agree w LOL. The real estate there will just keep sliding

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will be done about it. You can’t beat the FAA. Neighborhoods along and near the river are largely uninhabitable due to the 24/7 highway overhead.

+1. They should just demolish all of the palisades and turn it into a park.

Lol

Anonymous wrote:The day Bowser does anything useful like this…

Meanwhile, buyer beware

No one will do this. It will tank real estate values.